crumbs 15,151 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 The music in this new Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order gameplay video is pretty good. More of that Williams-y prequel sound, but it's effective enough. I'm presuming the theme at 11:42 is the score's main theme which is short but memorable. Weirdly I can't find any details of who the composer is. Presumably Gordy Haab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 497 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 54 minutes ago, crumbs said: The music in this new Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order gameplay video is pretty good. More of that Williams-y prequel sound, but it's effective enough. Weirdly I can't find any details of who the composer is. Presumably Gordy Haab? From a GameInformer article: Quote Music is as important to Star Wars as the story and characters. From what we've heard of Jedi: Fallen Order's score, it fits right in with John Williams’ work, and changes to flow with what is happening on screen. You can hear what Respawn is going for in this track titled “Kashyyyk Suite.” The soundtrack is made by Nick Laviers, Stephen Barton, and composer Gordy Haab, who recorded the music at Abbey Road. looohhk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,530 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 I knew Gordy has involvement right away while watching the gameplay. There are a lot of references to music he's written for both Battlefront and SWTOR. Stephen Barton's involvement was a surprise though, to be sure... but a welcome one. (Sorry, I had to say it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 543 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 So I guess this is the LSO again, like with Battlefront? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,530 Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 2 hours ago, Laserschwert said: So I guess this is the LSO again, like with Battlefront? Yes. Confirmed by Gordy on Facebook. Laserschwert 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,835 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I like how the gameplay starts with the Quidditch Match intro. And how 11:54 is practically a more creative post-Ultron Avengers Theme statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 497 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 https://twitter.com/ComposerBarton/status/1137406450207035393 https://twitter.com/ComposerBarton/status/1137406450207035393 https://twitter.com/ComposerBarton/status/11374064502070353 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,628 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 probably the most ambitious in scope score ever done Come on dude... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,839 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 15 minutes ago, Jay said: Come on dude... His next tweet makes the correction of (*game score). So only the most ambitious game score ever done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,628 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Ah OK. It could be, I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Glad to see that Vince has stuck with Barton going all the way back to Call Of Duty 4. He’s an underrated composer that barely gets work. I dig his Titanfall scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,628 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Vince? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 543 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Hard to top the score to The Old Republic in terms of ambition. Isn't that like 30 hours of full orchestral score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 52 minutes ago, Jay said: Vince? Vince Zampella and Jason West founded Infinity Ward and developed COD into what it is today. They left the studio after a clash with Activision and founded Respawn Entertainment. Since then they’ve developed Titanfall 1 and 2, Apex Legends, and are making Jedi Fallen Order. Stephen Barton has been the composer for most of their games. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Reger 3,613 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 849 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 3 hours ago, Incanus said: So only the most ambitious game score ever done. I'm no expert here, but... Lair was pretty ambitious, no? That one is still my favourite non-film score I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Reger 3,613 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 . Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,755 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I think it is ironic that the games of Star Wars have a soundtrack played by the LSO, while the sequel trilogy does not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,044 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Everything but the Williams recent star wars output uses the Lso....rogue one is the only one who does not use them either.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,755 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 I can’t really tell if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me. I have no complaints over how the sequel trilogy sounds, it’s fine, but SW has always been connected to the LSO... and the movies, sequel trilogy included, are the flagships of that franchise. So, to have all these spin-offs and games using the LSO, while the new flagship features that are coming out aren’t... Well. It’s not a complaint, just an observation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,896 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 It would be fun if the entire LSO got a cameo in episode IX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,628 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,530 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: Everything but the Williams recent star wars output uses the Lso....rogue one is the only one who does not use them either.... Solo used the London Chamber Orchestra I believe; it definitely wasn't the LSO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,357 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: It would be fun if the entire LSO got a cameo in episode IX. That'd be a lot of Knights of Ren! No wonder they all have different weaponry! I could've sworn I saw one of them holding a bow. igger6 and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,044 Posted June 11, 2019 Share Posted June 11, 2019 4 hours ago, rough cut said: I can’t really tell if you’re agreeing or disagreeing with me. Yup, I was agreeing with you on the irony, on how it seems everything uses the LSO except the williams music ... I worded it wrongly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Why does Williams have to use the LSO for the sake of tradition? Williams' age, health problems and the convenience of LA have determined this outcome. If people are going to make the argument that the LSO makes Star Wars sound like 'Star Wars' then that's ridiculous! It's Williams who makes this musical soundscape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 15,151 Posted June 12, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 12, 2019 Personally I think the recording venue and technique has more to do with the 'sound' of the sequels than the orchestra itself. Yes, Williams' writing style has definitely changed since the prequels, but there's just something special about the sound of Abbey Road and Murphy's superb analogue recording for TPM. I think I understand what they were aiming for with TFA's ultra-dry recording but it complimented neither the orchestra nor the venue's acoustics at all, IMO. Holko, MikeH and DarthDementous 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 I've never associated my idea of what Star Wars sounds like based on the variances in recording venues/sound engineering/mixing etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,151 Posted November 20, 2019 Author Share Posted November 20, 2019 So I gotta say, this score is pretty damn good. Haab does a fantastic job mixing that ANH sound with the more grandiose prequel sound, but does give the score a life of its own. Cal's Theme is really sweet, especially when presented on flute. Hoping this gets an official release soon. Both composers are doing a talk in LA on December 7. https://scoringarts.com/event/star-wars-the-music-of-jedi-fallen-order/ Anyone here want to attend and ask if they know anything about JW score expansions? You'd have to assume these two guys might have some inside goss on the topic. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,755 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I hope the score from Fallen Order gets a release, like Battle Front 1 & 2 did (not sure if those were official though, but aren’t they on Qobuz?). I like these new chapters to the Star Wars score library. They all feel like children of the original JW scores. They carry the same DNA but they are individuals with their own strengths, weaknesses and little quirks. Cut from the same cloth, but unique in their own way. From Shadows of the Empire, to Rogue One and Solo, they all feature some great non-JW SW music. The only one that I’d put in a different genre is The Mandalorian, I guess that’d be the bastard child. 😂 It’d be cool to see a release that collected all (or at least a track or two of each) of these. crumbs and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,358 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 1 hour ago, rough cut said: The only one that I’d put in a different genre is The Mandalorian, I guess that’d be the bastard child. The music to The Mandalorian is to Star Wars what Joseph Williams's musical direction is to John Williams's musical direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,755 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 I have no idea what you just said. Did you agree or disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,530 Posted November 20, 2019 Share Posted November 20, 2019 10 hours ago, rough cut said: I hope the score from Fallen Order gets a release, like Battle Front 1 & 2 did (not sure if those were official though, but aren’t they on Qobuz?). It wasn't an official release, it was a promo release that Gordy provided on his SoundCloud in lossless quality. If Qobuz has them, they're doing so illegally. According to Gordy, an official release of JFO is "up in the air". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 EA has a long track record of releasing game soundtracks. Did the Battlefront games really not get albums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,530 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 16 hours ago, Koray Savas said: EA has a long track record of releasing game soundtracks. Did the Battlefront games really not get albums? Nope, they did not. No Star Wars video game soundtrack has ever had an official release. SOTE of course had an official release, but that was based on the book, long before the game was made. I also heard that the collector's edition of SWTOR came with a disc of the suites that were released on the SWTOR YouTube channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,254 Posted November 21, 2019 Share Posted November 21, 2019 Must be a licensing thing with LucasArts then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAvengerButton 178 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Gordy has what I would refer to as "three bad habits". He quotes himself a lot (which is fine, John does it too) but he doesn't do it the same way Johnny does. He reused certain riffs in each of his scores (a certain jingle that appears in his music for TOR, Kinect Star Wars, the Battlefront games) but they don't necessarily seem to represent the same idea in all of those games. His second bad habit is relying too much (seemingly) on source tracks. There is a lot of his music which is just blatant copy of a Williams melody. This habit is less egregious than the first because I think it's okay that he's trying to make his music sound like it belongs in the same universe as the film scores and he does a phenomenal job of that, but he's also a really good composer in his own right and I like hearing his more original ideas in his scores as opposed to the copy. His third bad habit is a little more nebulous, but I wish he would make his texturing more era-appropriate. For example, the Sullust music from Battlefront 1 is fantastic. I enjoy the main idea and it's different permutations in the piece, but at the same time I'm listening to a song set during the OT with PT-esque music texturing. Yeah, it sounds like Williams, but it sounds like another era of Star Wars and not the one I'm playing in. I suppose the argument in favor of is that it blends all the different eras of Star Wars together and makes the universe feel more homogenous, but for me personally it takes me out of the experience. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Laserschwert 543 Posted January 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 24, 2020 Here's a featurette about the music in the game (in this case embedded in a longer documentary, but it looks like it's from a stand-alone clip): Edmilson, Tiburon and Arpy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tydirium 1,425 Posted January 29, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 29, 2020 Why is it that virtually every crappy game score these days manages to get an album release, but these SW game scores don't??? You would think that the new BATTLEFRONT games as well as this one would have gotten commercial releases, but it seems not... I genuinely don't understand why there is no FALLEN ORDER soundtrack on iTunes/Spotify etc. Arpy, Tiburon and Manakin Skywalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,530 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I had a tiny bit of hope since Stephen Barton was involved, and just about every score he works on for EA gets an official release. I'm sure Gordy will release a compilation like be did for the Battlefront games in a year or two... hopefully. I'm still attempting to make my own edit like I did for the Battlefront games, but the ~300 music files in the game files don't have names, so compiling something is incredibly time-consuming. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I wonder if the game's release being so close to TRoS had affected the release of an official score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,530 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 13 minutes ago, Arpy said: I wonder if the game's release being so close to TRoS had affected the release of an official score? Honestly I doubt it. No Star Wars video game score has ever been released officially. Shadows of the Empire doesn't count because it was composed for the book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,162 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Then it is as I feared - Williams is personally stopping any release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,896 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 That means we'll never get the music composed for the blockbuster mobile games Galaxy of Heroes and Star Wars Commander. Sad times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,530 Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 3:54 PM, Fargo said: That means we'll never get the music composed for the blockbuster mobile games Galaxy of Heroes and Star Wars Commander. Sad times... That means we'll also never get the music from Jedi Academy and Jedi Outcast! Oh, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 5,530 Posted February 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 19, 2020 I've begun adding tracks to my own playlist. A good chunk of the highlights have already been included. CGCJ, crocodile, TheAvengerButton and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,801 Posted February 19, 2020 Share Posted February 19, 2020 Thanks for that. Will give it a listen. Karol Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAvengerButton 178 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 On 1/30/2020 at 12:41 AM, Manakin Skywalker said: I had a tiny bit of hope since Stephen Barton was involved, and just about every score he works on for EA gets an official release. I'm sure Gordy will release a compilation like be did for the Battlefront games in a year or two... hopefully. I'm still attempting to make my own edit like I did for the Battlefront games, but the ~300 music files in the game files don't have names, so compiling something is incredibly time-consuming. Wow, 300 music files. I could guess a good few of those are movie splice-ins, but I don't remember too much in the way of new music from my playthrough. Form what I recall the levels were mostly quiet with ambience and the occasional short tune here and there. I can't wait to give your uploads a listen when I get the chance. This soundtrack needs to grow on me, I feel it reminds me too much of something from Skyrim rather than Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 664 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 The game only uses 3 existing bits of JW music: Jango's Escape, Anakin's Betrayal and Anakin's Dark Deeds. Everything else is completely original (nearly 5 hours worth). Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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