Erik Woods 555 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 I'm loving these videos. Passionate performances, wonderful sound... looks like they put on a great show! On 5/6/2020 at 12:54 PM, Jurassic Shark said: No, I'm saying that the Spielberg one is the only Kunzel JW album I know well enough to compare with anything else. But that album has various different performances. Some are new and some are from previous releases. On 5/8/2020 at 10:55 AM, p0llux said: Anybody know who else performs their version of The Lost World theme? Kunzel performed this arrangment first, if I'm not mistaken, on his GREAT MOVIE SCORES: THE FILMS OF STEVEN SPIELBERG album. Great arrangement with great energy! -Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Erik Woods said: But that album has various different performances. Some are new and some are from previous releases. I'm aware of that. Still, I find it to be overall better than the JW boxset I listened to from Film Symphony Orchestra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'm aware of that. Still, I find it to be overall better than the JW boxset I listened to from Film Symphony Orchestra. Yeah, live albums just aren't my thing. I'd love to hear what they sound like on a "studio" recording. -Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 11, 2020 Author Share Posted May 11, 2020 For some reason these sound better than a lot of studio recordings Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 5 minutes ago, Erik Woods said: Yeah, live albums just aren't my thing. -Erik- Oh, I love live recordings, if done right and by a great ensemble. The energy of a live performance is something else, and I understand it if people find the energy of the Film Symphony Orchestra alluring. 2 minutes ago, King Mark said: For some reason these sound better than a lot of studio recordings I guess that depends on how you personally define better sounding. They definitely sound different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, Jurassic Shark said: Oh, I love live recordings, if done right and by a great ensemble. The energy of a live performance is something else, and I understand it if people find the energy of the Film Symphony Orchestra alluring. Sure, but even great ensembles with stumble now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Just now, Erik Woods said: Sure, but even great ensembles with stumble now and then. True. But it's quite common to record the same live performance two or three times, then use the best takes on the album. Of course, I don't expect a live performance or a combination of live performances to be flawless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: True. But it's quite common to record the same live performance two or three times, then use the best takes on the album. Of course, I don't expect a live performance or a combination of live performances to be flawless. Sure, but this orchestra was on tour if I'm not mistaken and might have only played one show per venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Erik Woods said: Sure, but this orchestra was on tour if I'm not mistaken and might have only played one show per venue. They could still have recovered it at two different venues with similar acoustics, or planned two concerts in the largest city. For all we know, perhaps they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: They could still have recovered it at two different venues with similar acoustics, or planned two concerts in the largest city. For all we know, perhaps they did. I was looking at tour dates and from what I see they perform only once and then move on. HOWEVER, they performed 9 times in Madrid at the National Auditorum, which was there last stop. Anyway, I applaud ANY orchestra that wants to help promote film music. And all these guys do IS play film music. Good on them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 Yeah, I'm happy for those who like these recordings. I'd welcome a studio recording where they get the chance to do corrective takes, adjust the acoustics, and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 360 Posted May 11, 2020 Share Posted May 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Erik Woods said: they performed 9 times in Madrid at the National Auditorum Fond memories ... we were there 10 years ago. It's an enormous concert hall and we experienced the longest concert (off the top of my head: E.T., Raiders March, Saxophone concerto from CMIYC, Star Wars Suite, Empire Suite, Jedi piece, Phantom suite, pieces from AOTC and ROTS, Amistad as an encore - it was exhausting, for the audience as well as the orchestra; for the former a good thing) with John Williams' music I have ever heard of. jocores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 Since this was discussed earlier, I checked the discs I already have from the FSO (the remaining ones should arrive sometime next week) and with one exception, they were all recorded over two different dates on the same venue. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 What do you think about the performances? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 They are decent. I've heard to parts of their recent all-John Williams disc, recorded during last years tour, and some pieces were nicely performed, others not so much. When I attended their concert in one of their dates in Portugal, I did enjoy their performances, even though I could do without all the lightning effects, silly dressing from the orchestra members and a few other shenanigans. crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: some pieces were nicely performed, others not so much. Agreed. 2 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: I could do without all the lightning effects, silly dressing from the orchestra members and a few other shenanigans. Agreed! Kind of cringeworthy. crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I wonder if the apparent quality of the performances is due more to the over repetition than actual artistry. They basically tour one program with some minor tweaks all year long. Last year, their John Williams tour seemed to be a two program tour, though several pieces would show up in both programs. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt S. 493 Posted May 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted May 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: I could do without all the lightning effects, silly dressing from the orchestra members and a few other shenanigans. Laser effects, mirror balls... John Williams must be rolling around in his grave! Jurassic Shark, Bayesian, Martinland and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 398 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 I enjoyed the lighting, outfits, and shenanigans. My favorite was "The Tale of Viktor Navorski", with the clarinet soloist's back and forth with the orchestra and conductor. Very well performed, enjoyable, and amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 The performances are very good. The only time I hear some issues is with the strings tying to play those Williams chords like in Warhorse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted May 23, 2020 Share Posted May 23, 2020 5 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: I could do without all the lightning effects, silly dressing from the orchestra members and a few other shenanigans. it would really spoil the concert for me, it's sickening. :-S tmarps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 11 hours ago, Matt S. said: Laser effects, mirror balls... John Williams must be rolling around in his grave! The first and I think only time a Simpsons character mentioned JW by name! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,513 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 It’s been many years since I’ve seen it, but if I recall he was referenced pretty heavily in Family Guy - and there are three movie-length Star Wars specials. So I’d bet his name is spoken. I think there’s a gag in one of those specials where they replace him with Danny Elfman for some reason? I don’t know, man, that show was dumb as shit. Bayesian and Nick Parker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 It was/is great! Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 I'm using Spotify for my very first time after finally discovering I don't need to install that stupid application anymore and can just use Facebook. Listening to their Star Wars album now. Love the tempos and recording quality, but yes, their performances aren't the best. Still gonna keel listening. Oh no, ads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 24, 2020 Share Posted May 24, 2020 Halfway through the Star Wars album. It's a mixed bag. Some things are really great: never have I heard a flute player finish Yoda's theme so beautifully and the strings in Anakin's theme are amazing as well. Also loved their Flag Parade version because you can clearly hear they're having the time of their lives playing it and the quality of the recording is extremely detailed and vibrant. But, it is not 100% perfect. Beats are missed, random people make random and unexpected mistakes. Is it better than Prague? Well, obviously. What isn't? They don't bother with fanmade arrangements for starters and this conductor does really interesting things, but I wouldn't buy these, I think. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 Nice to hear Angela's Ashes. A piece (and suite) that needs to be performed much more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 yeah I just came across this on you tube Is that different from "Theme from Angela's Ashes" on the OST and is there an actual suite Williams revised that's not on the OST? i'm a bit unclear about what he performed with the Boston Pops on TV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 There is a 20 minutes suite for narrator, cello, harp, piano and orchestra, that was broadcast through WGBH's Evening at Pops in 2000. In that same Summer, Williams conducted it at Tanglewood, and that was released a few years ago through the BSO label, digitally only. Not sure if it is still available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 593 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, Miguel Andrade said: There is a 20 minutes suite for narrator, cello, harp, piano and orchestra, that was broadcast through WGBH's Evening at Pops in 1991. In that same Summer, Williams conducted it at Tanglewood, and that was released a few years ago through the BSO label, digitally only. Not sure if it is still available. You mean this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Steve said: You mean this? Yes, though that's just half of the whole thing. The digital only release of the Tanglewood performance is currently unavailable, as the BSO online store is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, King Mark said: Is that different from "Theme from Angela's Ashes" on the OST and is there an actual suite Williams revised that's not on the OST? i'm a bit unclear about what he performed with the Boston Pops on TV 34 minutes ago, Miguel Andrade said: There is a 20 minutes suite for narrator, cello, harp, piano and orchestra, that was broadcast through WGBH's Evening at Pops in 1991. In that same Summer, Williams conducted it at Tanglewood, and that was released a few years ago through the BSO label, digitally only. Not sure if it is still available. Angela's Ashes in 1991? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Angela's Ashes in 1991? Meant 2000. Have no idea why I wrote that... Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 593 Posted June 10, 2020 Share Posted June 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, Miguel Andrade said: Yes, though that's just half of the whole thing. The digital only release of the Tanglewood performance is currently unavailable, as the BSO online store is closed. Here is part 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 10, 2020 Author Share Posted June 10, 2020 people clapping when the music isn't finished... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 On 5/23/2020 at 8:06 PM, Miguel Andrade said: Last year, their John Williams tour seemed to be a two program tour, though several pieces would show up in both programs. I attened both programs in my city and there was no overlapping, aside from encores, (Imperial march and cantina band) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted June 11, 2020 Share Posted June 11, 2020 6 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: I attened both programs in my city and there was no overlapping, aside from encores, (Imperial march and cantina band) That seems to be the same thing as on the CD release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 This channel has been popping up on my Youtube recommendations lately. I've never heard of Film Symphony Orchestra but as their name suggests, they appear to be an orchestra that plays a boatload of film score pieces. They've got a lot of JW stuff on their channel. I'm not sure I've ever seen their work discussed here before. Are you all familiar with them? What do you think of their performance of JW pieces? Personally, I think they are a little hit and miss. Their War Horse performance is quite nice but their rendition of The Imperial March sounds too clipped, almost staccato. Also, I think their outfits are ridiculous and the conductor is sometimes quite humorous with his gestures and facial expressions but that is often the case with showy conductors. If you want to see some real over-the-top stuff, watch the video that autoplays on their website: https://filmsymphony.es/en/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,506 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Yes, I'm aware of them. As you say, very hit and miss. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 638 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I generally like them. I always tune in when a new video is uploaded. They're definitely no LSO, but a lot of the pieces they play are benefitted by their extra energy that other orchestras don't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Haven't checked all those videos, but I do have their CD releases, and they are indeed hit and miss (I think more of the later than of the former...). Unfortunately their energy doesn't makes up for all those misses. The recent Williams 4-CD set starts with a terrible Summon the Heroes that makes me want to stop listening to it during the very first track. Truth be told, this years special video release was surprisingly good, though I could do without all the silly outfits and shenanigans going on in the stage. They seem to plan to make it available again sometime soon: https://filmsymphony.es/en/product/concierto-fin-de-gira/ WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,513 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 They are hit and miss, but I LOVE their energy and people could learn from the tempos this conductor chooses. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 I actually think they are very very very good. Some very good performances and most of all a very good selection of music. I discovered them through youtube suggestions too and I generally quite enjoy their performances. The thing of note is ofcourse the melodramatic conductor. He's too expressive as if he's giving a stage dramatic performance. But I don't mind as long as he gets good music out of the orchestra. I am trying to find it but for the life of me cannot find it - was it this same conductor or some other conductor - i saw a video of a performance - it was maybe the forrest gump theme - where the conductor hammed it up to the heavens - it was weirdly entertaining the watch - the performance was very good too. I thought it was this same conductor but I could be mistaken and I think it was forest gump but I could be mistaken about that too. But I remember the youtube comments section was full of comments about the conductor. I checked the comments section of the film symphony orchestra and I think they delete all their comments. They don't have comments on any of their videos it seems. I haven't been able to locate it but would love to watch that video again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 More thoughts from the pee-nut gallery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 They play BFG in concert?! One would hope it's only as an encore 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Hm, I'm gonna have to get that John Williams Special, I think... Loving Lincoln. Is it ethically okay to hate the city of Prague Philharmonic and to buy this? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 12:01 AM, bruce marshall said: They play BFG in concert?! One would hope it's only as an encore 😆 Saving the best for last, you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 24 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Saving the best for last, you mean. No. I mean you don't want the audience to fall asleep before the concert is over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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