Amer 2,113 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 I played this last week only once, but the music has been playing inside my head non stop since then. Its that good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 '88 was Horner's best year in the 80's, despite Cocoon 2. If Willow isn't his best score from that decade than Land Before Time definitely is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted November 13, 2020 Share Posted November 13, 2020 What's Willow like? I've never heard it. I always confuse Cocoon, Krull and Willow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted November 13, 2020 Author Share Posted November 13, 2020 It's like this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 Am I correct that the scene where Cera comes upon unconscious Sharptooth is in Separate Paths? Even though the scene is in the middle of Foraging for Food? And that parts of that scene were tracked with the Cera slamming rock section of Sharptooth and the Earthquake? And that means that Separate Paths may perhaps not only have the original scoring of that section but also the scene's original placement? Or am I wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 On 11/9/2020 at 8:06 AM, MedigoScan said: I recently saw the movie again as well just to match it up with the music And what I find slightly interesting (which I should have already realized before since the track was already released) is how 'Foraging for Food' seems to have rearranged itself The third section for the scene where Cera recalls about seeing Sharptooth is instead used earlier for her actual meeting with Sharptooth (complete with tracked music at the end for his reawakening), leaving the later scene unscored. It cant be that the scenes were shifted around, since that wouldnt make sense chronologically. I only noticed because I always figured the missing music for the Cera/Sharptooth scene would be there on a complete release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I saw that, and I am having a hard time with the broad wording of it, perhaps I am just dense. It seems like: Foraging for Food: Littlefoot meets Ducky/(skipping over Cera and Sharptooth)/Petrie and the Tree Star/Cera and the Bones/Then what? Separate Paths: then has the Cera and Sharptooth sequence in it? or does it just have a bit of it tracked in from music written for another sequence? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 I think he is saying that the cue is not used as intended in the film, but tracked? On 11/9/2020 at 8:06 AM, MedigoScan said: what I find slightly interesting is how 'Foraging for Food' seems to have been rearranged The third section is used for the scene where Cera recalls [recounts?] seeing Sharptooth is instead used earlier for her actual meeting with Sharptooth (complete with tracked music at the end for his reawakening), leaving the later scene unscored. It cant be that the scenes were shifted around, since that wouldnt make sense chronologically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 On 11/13/2020 at 9:59 AM, Jay said: It's like this Schumann 3rd symphony 1st mvt, but faster. As far as land before time, it’s a Prokofiev carbon copy. All in all, Horner was not a very original composer. Williams definitely borrowed stylistic ideas from classical composers, but never as overtly as Horner did. There are so many examples. Can’t say I’m a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 What did he steal for Krull? If there is some classical music that siubds like that I want to hear it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricsim88 244 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Spider-Fal said: What did he steal for Krull? If there is some classical music that siubds like that I want to hear it! Krull might not have as much recognizable melodies, but stylistically, it’s completely unoriginal. Just look up Richard Strauss, Gustav Mahler, etc... One thing that comes to mind from Apollo 13. Launch theme, complete rip-off of a melody from a french composer’s (Duruflé I think, played the piece a few years ago) Requiem. Can’t remember the exact part, but it’s the same melody, even in the same key. Anybody remember Troy? Well Shostakovitch 5th symphony is in there, note for note. He even stole from JG...which he didn’t appreciate if what I read is accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,529 Posted November 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Spider-Fal said: What did he steal for Krull? Wrath of Khan crumbs, Ricard and Kasey Kockroach 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Holko said: Wrath of Khan Wrath of Khan doesn't have choir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted November 15, 2020 Share Posted November 15, 2020 21 hours ago, blondheim said: I saw that, and I am having a hard time with the broad wording of it, perhaps I am just dense. It seems like: Foraging for Food: Littlefoot meets Ducky/(skipping over Cera and Sharptooth)/Petrie and the Tree Star/Cera and the Bones/Then what? Separate Paths: then has the Cera and Sharptooth sequence in it? or does it just have a bit of it tracked in from music written for another sequence? I apologize for the phrasing. You are sorta correct about how Foraging for Food goes song-wise. But after the music for 'Cera and the Bones' you get the music for the Cera/Sharptooth scene. Except the last part of that scene is replaced with music tracked from Sharptooth and the Earthquake (2:30-3:12 ish) and then Separate Paths (3:03-3:21). I was just curious because the actual scene that comes after 'Cera and the Bones' is unscored and has Cera recall how that encounter went. And because the last few seconds of Foraging for Food still plays at the end of that scene, I wondered if the whole 4th part of that track (5:28-End) was originally meant to go with that unscored scene. Slight aside: Separate Paths also has a few differences compared to the movie, which probably just means more minor scenes where trimmed before Sharptooth's second attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 This is one of the best expanded releases I've ever seen. Simple presentation, unadorned with bonus tracks or alternates. I really like the new horn solo in Great Migration. I can't wait for Willow. I will still always expect the fully fleshed out Diana Ross song after Whispering Winds. It just seems right after the long-lined and careful development of the ideas over the previous nine minutes. Apparently there was once a traveling montage there that it unaccompanied. So I will never be giving up the OST but The Land Before Time is not much longer in complete form and of such high quality that I imagine I will be pulling this out A LOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 20 hours ago, ricsim88 said: Krull might not have as much recognizable melodies, but stylistically, it’s completely unoriginal. Just look up Richard Strauss, Gustav Mahler, etc... One thing that comes to mind from Apollo 13. Launch theme, complete rip-off of a melody from a french composer’s (Duruflé I think, played the piece a few years ago) Requiem. Can’t remember the exact part, but it’s the same melody, even in the same key. Anybody remember Troy? Well Shostakovitch 5th symphony is in there, note for note. He even stole from JG...which he didn’t appreciate if what I read is accurate. If Horner ever had an excuse for copying, it's Troy. He did the damn thing in 2 weeks tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 Got my replacement CD! Thanks, Intrada! The horns are definitely back! SO prominent now in the opening track. Another easy way to see if you have the new disc is to check the CD-TEXT. Originally there was a goof/joke on track 7 "The Rescue , Discovery Of The Great Scott Valley". On the new disc, that is gone. It merely is the track name as it should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 If i ordered it from intrada now, would i get the new version or should I specifically ask for it in the order form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Luke Skywalker said: If i ordered it from intrada now, would i get the new version or should I specifically ask for it in the order form? Think all the stock now is the "updated" version. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Think all the stock now is the "updated" version. Karol Good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I suppose I'll just label the track from the initial run as an alternate bonus track and use the updated version in the main body of the score. Karol Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted November 24, 2020 Share Posted November 24, 2020 I personally enjoy the difference. I would rather have the new take, I already have the old one TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Got my replacement disc today! Glad to have it and very thankful that Intrada was willing! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Prokofiev, Tsaikovski, what Horner does at 8:00 is beautiful....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted December 1, 2020 Share Posted December 1, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 So, I've just received my copy of the LLL new CD. Which track is missing an overlay? Does LLL issued a replacement track for it? Do I have to sue someone? What is my recourse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 35 minutes ago, Bespin said: So, I've just received my copy of the LLL new CD. Which track is missing an overlay? Does LLL issued a replacement track for it? Do I have to sue someone? What is my recourse? La-La Land Records had nothing to do with The Land Before Time; That's an Intrada CD. Track #1 wasn't missing an overlay, it used the wrong take for a section (1:55-2:12). Only the initial batch that shipped out to customers the first week had the wrong take. Every copy since is a fixed version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Jay said: La-La Land Records had nothing to do with The Land Before Time; That's an Intrada CD. Track #1 wasn't missing an overlay, it used the wrong take for a section. Only the initial batch that shipped out to customers in November had the wrong take. Every copy since is a fixed version. Woops Intrada. How do I know if I have the new version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 You know you have to new version because you just ordered it recently If you look at this very page, people received the fixed version as early as Nov 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 No I want a proof, there must be something different on the booklet, another UPC Code or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 The other way to tell is listen to 1:55-2:12 of track #1. If it's a stunning performance that matches the old OST album, that's the fixed version. If it's a lackluster performance, that's the first pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 well I will send you my FLAC in PM, can you tell me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 You have the fixed version, Bes. You don't need to worry about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Can you just confirm it, my little loving @Jay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just compare to track #1 of the OST album on spotify It's glaringly obvious if you have the crummier horn solo instead of the normal OST horn solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I sent you a link in PM. Jay, com'on, I want an expert advice. I listen to the Spotify version and mine, I really can't say if it's the same version or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I think the .txt in the old version had a track named "the great scott valley" it is written correct in the second pressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 You have the ghetto versiin, Bes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 minute ago, Luke Skywalker said: I think the .txt in the old version had a track named "the great scott valley" it is written correct in the second pressing. a .txt file... on the CD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I dont know, it was the names of the tracks "within" the cd or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 You're not clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,441 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Some CDs have track titles embedded in them as "CD text". If you have a player, or software, that reads CD text, you can check those embedded titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Hey guys, I'm very serious, I need someone who experienced the wrong version, to certify me if I have the corrected version or not. Please contact me in PM. You saw in the purchased Thread that I bought the CD, so it's perfectly legal. I really want to know which version ScreenArchive sent me, because I didn't purchase the CD from Intrada directly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I actually like having the alternate take. I don't find it crummy, just not as brash. I wouldn't say I prefer it, just that I really enjoy hearing something new in a track I have been in love with since birth, it feels like Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Many thanks to @blondheim who confirmed I received the corrected CD. Thanks my friend! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, blondheim said: I actually like having the alternate take. I don't find it crummy, just not as brash. I wouldn't say I prefer it, just that I really enjoy hearing something new in a track I have been in love with since birth, it feels like "Feel like what?" 0:39 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, blondheim said: I actually like having the alternate take. I don't find it crummy, just not as brash. I wouldn't say I prefer it, just that I really enjoy hearing something new in a track I have been in love with since birth, it feels like I SHALL HAFF VORDZ WIZ YU, YANG MÄN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 I still haven’t noticed anything different about the cue. and I’m ok with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I've really grown to love this score in only a few listens. This expansion has been on steady rotation over the last few weeks. But the more I listen, the more distracting those clunky analogue performance edits have become -- especially because they occur at such crucial dramatic crescendos. I'm guessing these flaws were inherent in the album master but it's a shame the opportunity wasn't taken to clean them up, given they had the 6-track masters at their disposal. Would it really have been that much work to smooth over 2-3 rough analogue edits? Anyway, still glad to have this score (which was a blind purchase) in my collection, small gripes notwithstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 I never noticed these edits in the OST. publicist and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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