crumbs 14,317 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Unfortunately soundtrack collectors are a long way down the list of any executive's priority list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 It's almost like it's the opposite of being on a priority list though - it's such a small number of customers to potentally 'confuse' that they should just not care whatever niche products are release. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 3:23 PM, crocodile said: Bond titles were "planned" but now everything is on hold especially now that MGM is on the selling block Sorry guys MV Now that MGM has been sold to Amazon, that's one stumbling block out of the way. However, I suppose these stumbling blocks: On 1/6/2021 at 8:00 PM, MattyO said: 1. The new movie delays. No one wants any older soundtracks out before the new movie arrives. Don't ask. This is the case with Top Gun and has been the case in the past (ie Xmen films and Apes films). The studios for some bizarre reason usually do not want any new soundtrack out of something old while the new one is coming out. 2. Capital Records, now UME, and MGM were right in the middle of renegotiating terms on all the Bond soundtracks right when Corona hit so it put the kibosh on things. remain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Quote Quote MV do you think the recent MGM purchase would have any affect on moving along those Bond releases?? No idea https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=118900&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=42&r=532#bottom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Tiny glimmer of hope from MV Quote Quote The release of more Bond score was indeed put on ice because NTTD was also. Now the question is whether the release will allow LLL to move forward. Hopefully this year, maybe for the Black Friday batch? 2022 if they happen https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=118900&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Really don't understand the (studio's?) logic here - surely you want more interest in Bond collectibles when a Bond film is coming out? Or do they assume that if I bought the TND expansion that I wouldn't buy something NTTD related? Bryant Burnette 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Black Friday? Have they already finished all those sets then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I may be missing something, but...MGM might have been sold, but aren't DANJAC, and EON separate entities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, Anthony said: Really don't understand the (studio's?) logic here - surely you want more interest in Bond collectibles when a Bond film is coming out? Or do they assume that if I bought the TND expansion that I wouldn't buy something NTTD related? I wouldn't bother understanding the logic behind it. Clearly just some genius in middle management making clueless decisions to justify their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 3 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Black Friday? Have they already finished all those sets then? That part is part of the question, the response from MV says 2022 at the earliest. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 They aim to have the Black Friday titles finished by Aug/Sep so they can be approved and pressed in time. Since MGM won't grant the license or share element transfers until after NTTD is out, there was literally no chance one could come out for this Black Friday. But someone on FSM asked anyway, and MV politely responded there's no chance until 2022 at the earliest bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Well, whatever happens, I'd only be interested in TND at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 5 hours ago, Anthony said: Really don't understand the (studio's?) logic here - surely you want more interest in Bond collectibles when a Bond film is coming out? Or do they assume that if I bought the TND expansion that I wouldn't buy something NTTD related? More or less, yes. They don’t want to saturate the brand. 1 hour ago, crumbs said: I wouldn't bother understanding the logic behind it. Clearly just some genius in middle management making clueless decisions to justify their job. Most corporations operate this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 17 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Most corporations operate this way. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,394 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 On 1/12/2021 at 12:23 AM, crumbs said: TND is the last non-expanded Arnold Bond score, and it's his best... Are Casino and Quantum complete already? Quantum is one of my favorite Bond scores but one of my least favorite films, so I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 No, they are not. And TND's already been expanded (just not to complete form) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 Is anything missing from iTunes bonus disc for CR? It seemed fairly comprehensive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I thought at least one cue was still unreleased, but I honestly can't remember now. Plus, who knows how many alternates or unused cues might have been recorded? Plus, having the cues only released digitally combined with the cues on the OST into a new main program on physical CD with new liner notes sounds great to me. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, HunterTech said: Is anything missing from iTunes bonus disc for CR? It seemed fairly comprehensive to me. There's a little cue or extension after "License: 2 Kills", "African Rundown" has a couple of film inserts and "Blunt Instrument" has a different film ending...otherwise, no. The most substantial unreleased music is the film version of You Know My Name. Yavar Moradi and mxsch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 1:07 AM, Anthony said: There's a little cue or extension after "License: 2 Kills", "African Rundown" has a couple of film inserts and "Blunt Instrument" has a different film ending...otherwise, no. The most substantial unreleased music is the film version of You Know My Name. Do you know how much of QOS music is unreleased except this rendition of Bond's theme from the end titles which can be ripped without problems? Or album is complete, minus that cue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 The entire score for QUANTUM OF SOLACE - including source music, and Crawl, End Crawl - is available to listen to, on YouTube. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: The entire score for QUANTUM OF SOLACE - including source music, and Crawl, End Crawl - is available to listen to, on YouTube. Is it really? Cause I’ve seen a number of “complete score” bootlegs over the years that were fake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 3 hours ago, mxsch said: Do you know how much of QOS music is unreleased except this rendition of Bond's theme from the end titles which can be ripped without problems? Or album is complete, minus that cue? There's a litte action cue as Bond escapes the bar after meeting with Felix, I think there's a slightl extension/second part to "Bolivian Taxi Ride", the Four Tet end credits piece which was released officially anyway, and Arnold's gunbarrel music. And of course, the later written No Good About Goodbye. There might be a few other very minor cues but they don't come to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 9 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: Is it really? Cause I’ve seen a number of “complete score” bootlegs over the years that were fake. It seems complete, to me. Check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 18 hours ago, Anthony said: There's a litte action cue as Bond escapes the bar after meeting with Felix, I think there's a slightl extension/second part to "Bolivian Taxi Ride", the Four Tet end credits piece which was released officially anyway, and Arnold's gunbarrel music. And of course, the later written No Good About Goodbye. There might be a few other very minor cues but they don't come to mind. Yeah the bar escape sticks out to me from QoS as being unreleased, and the complete prologue music from CR. Not sure why they extended those scores so generously only to still omit cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Sad update from MV Quote Quote I had heard that LLL is struggling with Amazon on the Bond front. Could MV perhaps confirm/debunk/clarify this? I know rights issues can be a royal nightmare. Everything is off for a variety of reasons. You know after 20 years of doing this I really should learn to keep my big trap shut and not mention anything until a title is ready to come out. Thank you for reminding me why I should embrace this from here on out. See yall in the funny papers MV out! MV https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=118900&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 A wise move, I think. It's worked well for Varese and Intrada to keep things under wraps until they're ready. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,367 Posted January 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted January 3, 2022 Sure, but the really sad part is the "everything is off" part! TSMefford, Once and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 At least we got TWINE out of it. A shame about the remainder though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 The Chapter III release and isolated score track take the sting out of never getting a proper Bulk edition of Tomorrow Never Dies, but this was probably the only chance at Moonraker and License to Kill for a long time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted January 3, 2022 Share Posted January 3, 2022 Well that's disappointing news, geez And to think TND must have been really far down the pipeline, given Arnold himself was referring to it back in 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Disappointing for now.. However, things change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 No Time To Cry😢 bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 Everything meaning everything Bond or everything other stuff? God, who spends their time making these projects impossible? Such nice people those studio folks are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 12 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: Everything meaning everything Bond or everything other stuff? Oh sorry, his post was a direct reply to someone asking him about Bond expansions. I'll edit the question into the quote. 12 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: God, who spends their time making these projects impossible? Such nice people those studio folks are. The studio execs who think having soundtracks out for old movies when a new movie is imminent is a bad idea are really poor thinkers. Bond has the added wrinkle of MGM going bankrupt again and being sold to Bezos bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 If these were scores that desperately needed expanded versions like the titles Lukas expanded, I would be crestfallen. But, I'm not going to slit my wrists over MR considering how little is unreleased. But, I.do wish these would come out ALREADY, DAMMITT!😠😡😵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 31 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: If these were scores that desperately needed expanded versions like the titles Lukas expanded, I would be crestfallen. But, I'm not going to slit my wrists over MR considering how little is unreleased. I mean sure it's only, what, 12-15 minutes of unreleased music from Moonraker (that we know about anyway)? But when you consider how long the score itself is, that's actually a hefty percentage and it includes a lot of the most Bond-sounding music in the score. Lukas only didn't do it because he couldn't locate the tapes at the time, and he was under a crazy time deadline. Yavar Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 The " missing" music doesn't contain any of the main themes. The pre- credit is mostly the Bond theme( " Freefall") the flight to Drax us a variation on the main theme. There is a short cue , iirc, when Bond and Holly escape the rocket liftoff fire. According to Woolston there isn't any unused music. The ost is a excellent presentation. The LLL would be cherry on the cake!☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 6 hours ago, bruce marshall said: The LLL would be cherry on the cake!☺ Hey i thought english people used “Icing on the cake”. unless you are spanish and i didnt knew! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 20 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: Hey i thought english people used “Icing on the cake”. unless you are spanish and i didnt knew! I'm an Amurican! Maybe " cherry on the Sundae" is more descriptive. Icing is an essential ingredient to cake. Unlike Yavar, I can sleep soundly even knowing there is unreleased music out there. 😉😊 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 In spanish we use “cherry on the cake” thats why i asked. Maybe it is a less common english idiom, or the americans have it also due to the mix of cultures. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 A cherry is something that just makes something already sweet, a little.bit sweeter. So, the ost of MOONRAKER- already a tasty and satisfying dessert- would be made a little bit more delicious if expanded! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 14 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: In spanish we use “cherry on the cake” thats why i asked. Maybe it is a less common english idiom, or the americans have it also due to the mix of cultures. The American phrase is “cherry on top” referring to the cherry on top of an ice cream sundae. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Someone at FSM posted the following link: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Whatever is supposed to be in your posts doesn't show up for me. It says "Oops, we couldn't find that track" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 That's because since posting it, the track was deleted from Soundcloud, apparently. https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=146975&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 It's here now https://archive.org/details/licence-to-be-killed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 I can see why this would have made sense for the Broccolis, considering they hired Kamen and Clapton. But glad they did not since Clapton's such a bonehead (70s scandals about race, anti-vaxxing etc). Kamen would have done miraculous work on his own.....And Babcock and Davis in tow..... bruce marshall, 1977 and Unlucky Bastard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 On 04/01/2022 at 4:00 PM, Yavar Moradi said: I mean sure it's only, what, 12-15 minutes of unreleased music from Moonraker (that we know about anyway)? But when you consider how long the score itself is, that's actually a hefty percentage and it includes a lot of the most Bond-sounding music in the score. Lukas only didn't do it because he couldn't locate the tapes at the time, and he was under a crazy time deadline. Yavar Someone - I think our own Mgkyver!- posted some excellent recreations of the UNRELEASED cues . On YT. Good stuff! Hope we get the originals someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameron007 43 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 1 hour ago, thestat said: I can see why this would have made sense for the Broccolis, considering they hired Kamen and Clapton. But glad they did not since Clapton's such a bonehead (70s scandals about race, anti-vaxxing etc). Kamen would have done miraculous work on his own.....And Babcock and Davis in tow..... Political controversies have no bearing on how good or bad Clapton's song would have been. We forget that celebrities are still people, and are thus entitled to their opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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