Jay 38,660 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 OneBuckFilms and Evanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,984 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Nice to see it back in print with such a large number. But will this decade mostly consist of the labels rerereissuing each others' stuff? Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,106 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Beautiful use of the Bob Peak poster. This cover seems less crowded than the other expanded one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 38,660 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2021 Yea, cool cover art! I can't wait to hear the details about how this was remastered. In this thread, Lukas Kendall mentioned the possibility that there was a 2" 24-track analog tape "parallel recording", which if true means they won't have to use the 3M digital master, which is forever locked in 1982-era digital recording technology. That could mean a big upgrade in sound quality. Tom Guernsey, WampaRat and Ollie 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Reger 3,568 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 For a second I thought an OMNI release was coming. Ehh, one can dream... airmanjerm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 Tom Guernsey and OneBuckFilms 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Good to get confirmation that Neil S. Bulk is involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,803 Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 Probably a top 5 score of all time for me.....but what will be different with this release compared to the expanded/complete edition I already have? Regardless.... I'm tempted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,977 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 So, Neil will interview Neil..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Hi Guys, Please excuse my novice comment. When I hear the music from TWOK on DVD. I think some of the instruments sound more crisper. Example if I am not that crazy, I think I can hear drums during the "Surprise Attack" at 2:08? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 The Blu-ray and DVD for WOK do seem to be slightly cleaner for the music, but it may be partly due to the different dynamics for the movie's existing mix. My understanding is that the STII expanded release uses the analogue mixdown they used for the film, so if the film itself sounds better, it implies some slow degradation of those tapes since 1982. I might have to do a comparison myself. shockwave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 13 minutes ago, OneBuckFilms said: The Blu-ray and DVD for WOK do seem to be slightly cleaner for the music, but it may be partly due to the different dynamics for the movie's existing mix. My understanding is that the STII expanded release uses the analogue mixdown they used for the film, so if the film itself sounds better, it implies some slow degradation of those tapes since 1982. I might have to do a comparison myself. Another stupid comment. To bad there wasn't an iso score to TWOK DVD. OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Just now, shockwave said: Another stupid comment. To bad there wasn't an iso score to TWOK DVD. I'm curious, what is actually stupid about my speculative comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,984 Posted August 3, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 3, 2021 3 minutes ago, OneBuckFilms said: I'm curious, what is actually stupid about my speculative comment? That likely referred to his own comment in a self-deprecating way, don't worry. Tallguy, OneBuckFilms and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Sorry about that. Humor... it is a difficult concept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,751 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 4,083 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 1 hour ago, OneBuckFilms said: Sorry about that. Humor... it is a difficult concept. We learn by doing. (It's Pavlovian!) OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 What's a "humor"? Is that some type of tumor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: What's a "humor"? Is that some type of tumor? It's not a tumor. That's just a rumor. Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 18 hours ago, OneBuckFilms said: I'm curious, what is actually stupid about my speculative comment? Sorry for the delay. No certainly not you OneBuckFilms. Only me I ask the stupid questions lol. Thank you for replying to my original question. OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 38,660 Posted August 4, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2021 If the music in the actual film itself has higher fidelity than both music album releases have, that lends credence to the thought that perhaps that 2" 24-track did exist, and maybe they dubbed the music to go into the film off that, while the digital recording was used for the album only. Or something. shockwave, OneBuckFilms and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Neil did say there were more tapes, and something recently about picking them from a spreadsheet (list of recorded assets in the studio archive, with "I'll have those please"). Bottom line for me: there are likley better sources tat were utilized for this release. I predict good things ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,582 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Hopefully they can announce a reissue of ST:TMP in the near future. I regret not picking that up OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 That release was a no-brainer for me. I went to an event in LA where Craig Huxley performed the Blaster Beam, and we heard from David Newman who played first violin on the score. I'll always remember those LA events. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,582 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I only really discovered it in the dying days of its availability, then when I went to the pull the trigger, they only had half a dozen copies left. They vanished before I could complete the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Oh, I just realized I have the "1 CD" version, the FSM one. I'm confused. Do I need the new 2-CD release? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 We don't know anything about it yet, other than the fact it says "remastered" on the cover and that Neil indicated new tapes were found on FSM. Presumably, we're learn more about this stuff when the interview I mentioned here goes live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 The FSM edition is complete to the film, plus one early alternate. It also has every cue from the OST, since the takes are the same, though they added the synth overlay in the Mutara Nebula battle cue (I think I prefer the cue without it, as it's more of an effect that was more of an afterthought). The two reasons this release might be worth it: - Sound improvements, almost a given. - Additional content that was not presented on the FSM edition, though there may not be that much more to present. I'll be getting it for the sonic upgrade alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Well, if I buy this one, I'll have to buy the future 2-CD (or 3!) reissue of the third film also.... This is endless!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,563 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 9 minutes ago, OneBuckFilms said: The FSM edition is complete to the film, plus one early alternate. It also has every cue from the OST, since the takes are the same, though they added the synth overlay in the Mutara Nebula battle cue (I think I prefer the cue without it, as it's more of an effect that was more of an afterthought). The two reasons this release might be worth it: - Sound improvements, almost a given. - Additional content that was not presented on the FSM edition, though there may not be that much more to present. I'll be getting it for the sonic upgrade alone. All that! The synth overlay is such a weird one since I don't imagine it's that noticeable above the effects in the film. The music may just as well stay out of the way. OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 Given the big sonic upgrade etc. for Trek 3, and the fact that it appears complete from the best masters we are aware of, I don't think an upgrade will ever be necessary. However, one can never say never. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 38,660 Posted August 4, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2021 I could see the new Disc 1 being the same as the FSM CD, with perhaps the Craig Huxley "Genesis Project" track being moved to disc 2 instead (IMO it ruins the flow of Horner's great score being placed in the middle of it), and the Finale cue not having Spock's narration, and no bonus tracks, just finishing with the end credits. All rebuilt from scratch from whatever this new element is of course. Then disc 2 would have the OST program (so: "Battle in the Mutara Nebula" has no overlay and "Finale" has narration), followed by bonus tracks: the "Genesis Project" track, "Battle in the Mutara Nebula" with the alternate unused overlays, the alternate "Amazing Grace", the original "Finale", and whatever else they might have found on the new tapes. crumbs, Yavar Moradi, blondheim and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,192 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 2 hours ago, OneBuckFilms said: That release was a no-brainer for me. I went to an event in LA where Craig Huxley performed the Blaster Beam, and we heard from David Newman who played first violin on the score. I'll always remember those LA events. That was a really fun event. The audience reaction (including mine) with the early takes of the main title was great. OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 329 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 1 minute ago, Datameister said: That was a really fun event. The audience reaction (including mine) with the early takes of the main title was great. I knew someone had it on YouTube ... Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,192 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 5 hours ago, OneBuckFilms said: I knew someone had it on YouTube ... Good times. I was bummed I didn't get a chance to thank Craig for his work. Got to compliment Bruce Botnick on his, though. OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I can't always buy new Editions of scores I like, I have to set limits. 😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 4,083 Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 7 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: All that! The synth overlay is such a weird one since I don't imagine it's that noticeable above the effects in the film. The music may just as well stay out of the way. The synth is actually over a section with no dialog and very few sound effects. It sounds like an effect itself. OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,159 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 I am still so used to the track without it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,186 Posted August 5, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 5, 2021 Can’t wait to get this since I never got the FSM release. Hope this bodes well for ST:TSFS release from LLL! crumbs, Yavar Moradi and OneBuckFilms 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted August 6, 2021 Author Share Posted August 6, 2021 Neil S. Bulk says Quote Details about this album will be coming out around August 17. Keep an eye out at trekmovie.com, trekcore.com and jameshorner-filmmusic.com. https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=144745&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1 OneBuckFilms and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,977 Posted August 6, 2021 Share Posted August 6, 2021 Well, I should hope there would be more details for a set on the day of it's release OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,977 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 The longest gap between one of my jokes and a laugh I have witnessed OneBuckFilms 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,751 Posted August 9, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, Permanent Waves said: The longest gap between one of my jokes and a laugh I have witnessed That's nothing compared to this guy: Manakin Skywalker, Holko, OneBuckFilms and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,977 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 On 8/6/2021 at 4:00 PM, Jay said: Neil S. Bulk says https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=144745&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1 Only a few more days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 4,083 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Is it reasonable to expect anything tomorrow? I can never keep track of what label does what how. Like for Eiger we started getting things like track lists a few days early. Heck, the CD went on sale on Monday! (That seemed unusual.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,977 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 24 minutes ago, Tallguy said: Is it reasonable to expect anything tomorrow? I can never keep track of what label does what how. Like for Eiger we started getting things like track lists a few days early. Heck, the CD went on sale on Monday! (That seemed unusual.) I wouldn't be completely surprised if we got some sort of article on it from trekcore or the like tomorrow, but the most definite thing is the order page going live sometime tuesday late afternoon or evening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted August 16, 2021 Author Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: Is it reasonable to expect anything tomorrow? I can never keep track of what label does what how. LLL gives us the flyer on the first of each month, then no other information until their email newsletter goes out overnight the day of release (so in this case: late Monday night / early Tuesday morning). That email newsletter contains the tracklist and press release blurb for each title going up for sale that day. The only time we get information sooner than that is if they elect to let another website debut information early, such as what JWFan did for Minority Report or Planetary Union did for The Orville, for example. in this particular case, Neil Bulk already told us 3 sites that will have info up: "Details about this album will be coming out around August 17. Keep an eye out at trekmovie.com, trekcore.com and jameshorner-filmmusic.com." We have no way of knowing if any of those articles will go up before the newsletter or not. We just have to wait and see. 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: Like for Eiger we started getting things like track lists a few days early. Because I asked Roger if he'd be willing to let JWFan debut the tracklist (and sample track and liner notes sample) early, and he said yes 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: Heck, the CD went on sale on Monday! (That seemed unusual.) Intrada has released titles every other Monday night for at least a decade, presumably more Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 4,083 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 Well then. I would not presume to debate you. Thanks as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Scorefan 4 Posted August 16, 2021 Share Posted August 16, 2021 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: Is it reasonable to expect anything tomorrow? I can never keep track of what label does what how. Like for Eiger we started getting things like track lists a few days early. Heck, the CD went on sale on Monday! (That seemed unusual.) Are you on their email mailing list? Usually the night before a new release they send an email with all of the details for the new release(s) as well as any of their prior releases going on sale. I expect they will do the same tomorrow night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruckhorn 109 Posted August 17, 2021 Share Posted August 17, 2021 Well, I doubt they'll have this alternate version of Battle in the Mutara Nebula: Battle in the Mutara Nebula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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