James Horner's HONEY, I SHRUNK THE KIDS (1989) - NEW! 2024 Intrada Expanded Edition

[Jay 37,516]

Roger says

 

Coming April 30th. Expanded edition.

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/95015405220/posts/10168942967095221

[Stark 339]

We’re reaching quantities of Horner expansions that shouldn’t be possible!

[Jay 37,516]

Hard to believe this film is 35 years old now

[JTN 2,242]

Great news, I might pick this one up, as I loved the film when I first saw it as a child. 

[crocodile 8,065]

Fantastic. I haven't got this one.

 

Karol

[Richard Penna 3,770]

Woah!

 

I noticed this yesterday amongst my other earlier Intrada purchases when looking on my shelf, and remembered being annoyed that Horner had evidently nixed some cues and generally wanted his usual 'listening experience' when making the first one - the entire album feels far more curated than it probably is in the film. First rate Horner score and a great movie too.

 

A bit like Ghostbusters 2, the initial album largedly satisfied my needs but I'm sure I'll end up getting this one too. The labels are collectively going nuclear with Horner right now!

[Edmilson 7,627]

Yes!

 

I remember I saw this movie on VHS at my cousins's house during a sleepover back when I was 8. At the time I didn't notice the score, but it's cool that they're finally releasing a complete version.

 

1 hour ago, Stark said:

We’re reaching quantities of Horner expansions that shouldn’t be possible!

[Jay 37,516]

In the last 5 years, Disney has only licensed out six scores to Intrada.  Half of those were James Horner scores.  Pretty cool

[GerateWohl 4,474]

4 hours ago, Stark said:

We’re reaching quantities of Horner expansions that shouldn’t be possible!

I think, meanwhile there are more Horner expansions than Horner scores.

[ddddeeee 267]

The ant dying in this traumatised me as a kid. 

[JTN 2,242]

Me too!

[Edmilson 7,627]

4 hours ago, Jay said:

Hard to believe this film is 35 years old now

Just like Batman, The Last Crusade, Ghostbusters 2, Lethal Weapon 2 and, by the end of the year, The Little Mermaid and Back to the Future Part 2.

 

It must've been a crazy year for movie nerds! Probably the most packed full of blockbusters since Jaws and Star Wars invented the concept.

[JTN 2,242]

Yes, it was great being an eight-year-old in 1989. 

[Edmilson 7,627]

The funny thing is, in comparison 1987 and 1988 didn't have as many blockbusters, aside from a few obvious ones, like Roger Rabbit:

 

 

Then, in 1989:

 

 

 

And the 90s began with a bang on the following year:

 

 

Of course, the definition of what constitutes a blockbuster these days is much different than what it was back then. Movies like Rain Man, Coming to America and Twins were certainly big events back in 88, while in 1990 Ghost and Home Alone (a romance and a family comedy) outgrossed every 1989 movie. Heck, Pretty Woman and Dances with Wolves made more money at the box office than Batman!

 

In other words: the definition of a blockbuster being an action/sci-fi/fantasy movie based on "nerdy" stuff, like superheroes, Indiana Jones, Star Wars, etc., only took full force on the 2000s and 2010s.

[JTN 2,242]

Wow, those were all amazing years at the movies!

[Edmilson 7,627]

19 minutes ago, JTN said:

Wow, those were all amazing years at the movies!

1991 was even better:

 

 

That is... aside from Hook 

 

*runs*

[JTN 2,242]

I love HOOK... 

[Tallguy 3,528]

4 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Just like Batman, The Last Crusade, Ghostbusters 2, Lethal Weapon 2 and, by the end of the year, The Little Mermaid and Back to the Future Part 2.

 

It must've been a crazy year for movie nerds! Probably the most packed full of blockbusters since Jaws and Star Wars invented the concept.

 

It was a great year to be 20. You forgot the Abyss. And everyone forgets Always.

[Edmilson 7,627]

55 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

You forgot the Abyss. And everyone forgets Always.

Even Spielberg himself probably forgets that he made Always lol

 

The Abyss did bomb at the box office back in 89. It's funny that in the late 80s a James Cameron science fiction about water was a box office failure while a DC superhero movie starring Michael Keaton as Batman and an Indiana Jones movie where he fights nazis were breaking records. A little more than three decades later and the exact opposite of that happened 

[Tallguy 3,528]

13 minutes ago, Edmilson said:

Even Spielberg himself probably forgets that he made Always lol

 

The Abyss did bomb at the box office back in 89. It's funny that in the late 80s a James Cameron science fiction about water was a box office failure while a DC superhero movie starring Michael Keaton as Batman and an Indiana Jones movie where he fights nazis were breaking records. A little more than three decades later and the exact opposite of that happened 

 

I still love Always. The movie. The score? It's an all time classic and I have nothing to apologize for. It's in my "The Black Hole" category of expanded scores that I bought and years later I still listen to CONSTANTLY.

[Andy 4,272]

 

27 minutes ago, Tallguy said:

 

I still love Always. The movie. The score? It's an all time classic and I have nothing to apologize for. It's in my "The Black Hole" category of expanded scores that I bought and years later I still listen to CONSTANTLY.

I don’t know about Always as a film but, The Black Hole (movie and score) will always live rent free in my head. 

[Kasey Kockroach 2,345]

Broughton’s sequel is way better.

[Jay 37,516]

Roger says

 

INTRADA Announces:

HONEY, I SHRUNK THE KIDS
Composed and Conducted by JAMES HORNER
INTRADA ISC 492

 

Intrada presents an expanded edition of James Horner's rollicking score to Honey, I Shrunk the Kids (1989). The original release, produced by Simon Rhodes and James Horner, was a sparkling and largely representative showcase for Horner's colorful and animated score. For this new edition, Intrada has inserted three additional tracks, often asked for by collectors: "A Long Way Home, Bee Flight/After the Bees" and "Letting Anthony Go." As an added bonus, a few additional tracks are included as Extras to ensure every cue Horner recorded was present: "Grand Slam," "Laser Beam," and "Astride the Ant."

 

Horner’s main title music is a nod to Raymond Scott’s 1937 “Powerhouse B” tune, often referenced in Carl Stalling’s Warner Bros. cartoon scores and a perfect accompaniment for the Rube Goldberg-style contraptions of Wayne Szalinski. With the main title tune covering most of the film’s comic moments, Horner was free to use straight dramatic scoring to address the bizarre miniature landscapes in which the four young heroes find themselves. Horner uses a warm melody for the relationships between the film’s young heroes and their growing bond both among themselves. It all ties together into a musical adventure as exciting and colorful as the film itself, and is a true gem from Disney's orchestral film music legacy.

 

In the film, amateur scientist Wayne Szalinski (Rick Moranis) is in the midst of testing his shrinking machine but can't quite get it to work. When a baseball accidentally gets lodged in the machine and activates the shrinking function, the Szalinski kids and the next door neighbor's kids are reduced to a quarter of an inch in size and swept out into the garbage at the far end of the backyard. Trapped in a fantastic alien environment, the kids must stay alive and fight their way across the lawn while Wayne launches a desperate search for the children.

 

INTRADA ISC 492

Retail Price: $22.99

Bar Code: 7 20258 54920 4

Starts shipping 4/30/2024

For track listing, please visit the Honey I Shrunk the Kids soundtrack page at https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12898/.f

 

https://www.facebook.com/groups/95015405220/permalink/10168954537895221

 

 

HONEY, I SHRUNK THE KIDS (EXPANDED)
James Horner
Label: Intrada Special Collection Volume ISC 492
Film Date: 1989
Album Date: 2024
Time: 61:45
Tracks: 21
Price: $22.99

 

01. Main Title (1:58)
02. Strange Neighbors (1:49)
03. Test Run (2:08)
04. Shrunk (5:38)
05. A New World (3:31)
06. A Long Way Home (3:33)
07. Bee Flight/After The Bees (2:48)
08. The Machine Works (2:05)
09. Watering The Grass (4:13)
10. Ant Rodeo (3:45)
11. Flying Szalinski (1:59)
12. Letting Antony Go (1:51)
13. Night Time (5:04)
14. Scorpion Attack (3:34)
15. Lawn Mower! (5:44)
16. Eaten Alive (2:45)
17. Big Russ Volunteers (1:24)
18. Thanksgiving Dinner And End Credits (5:28)
Total Score Time: 59:37

 

THE EXTRAS
19. Grand Slam (0:32)
20. Laser Beam (0:31)
21. Astride The Ant (0:47)
Total Extras Time: 1:58)

Total CD Time: 61:45

 

https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12898/.f

 

 

[OneBuckFilms 325]

And.... ordered.

[crumbs 14,382]

I dunno heaps about this score but why are those 3 short cues in an "extras" section after the main assembly, instead of presented chronologically? Are they non-orchestral or something?

[Jay 37,516]

They're just short.

[crumbs 14,382]

I wonder if this microedit has been restored on the new album (something Horner edited on the previous release, according to a poster on FSM).

 

Quote

It was closer to 9 and a half minutes of music left off of the 2009 album, and with that some of the "Goonies" score references. One of those, the three-note intro to the Goonies theme was edited out of the finale 'Thanksgiving Dinner', although the rest of that quote played intact.

 

Considering the track title in question is different, I'm guessing yes.

[Holko 9,611]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

They're just short.

...so?

[Incanus 5,734]

28 minutes ago, Holko said:

...so?

Apparently these short tracks do not have place in the main programme on some of these Intrada releases. They also relegated the shorter mainly synth tracks on Apollo 13 release to the bonus track section after the main programme of the score. And still retained one of Horner's previous edits on the Something Wicked This Way Comes release (The Library Pt. 2), because it apparently made sense musically.

[Holko 9,611]

Right, and joining them with other tracks in a way that musically makes sense is impossible I guess. Or just too hard. Well at least they're included and guaranteed no bad edits I guess.

 

4 hours ago, Jay said:

Horner’s main title music is a nod to Raymond Scott’s 1937 “Powerhouse B” tune, often referenced in Carl Stalling’s Warner Bros. cartoon scores and a perfect accompaniment for the Rube Goldberg-style contraptions of Wayne Szalinski.

Hehe nice underselling, wiki says Scott's estate threatened to sue over its use and the lack of credit.

 

Oh and still no samples. Intrada, if you guys are reading this, the sample folder is not publically accessible anymore, you fixed it months ago, no need to overthink it.

[scallenger 487]

Being familiar with the old bootleg and the old Intrada release, I can say (with pretty good certainty) that this release has everything from them (and MAYBE slightly more?). The first two "extra" tracks at the end are very short little moments for when the baseball hits the window and then when each of the kids get zapped by the machine, so I can maybe see why they were placed there for listenability. Hey, I'm just happy they made it this time. There were originally two cues for when the kids are zapped, but I see they combined them into one track. However "Astride The Ant" seems to be something that was NOT on the old bootleg! I'm not sure what that is, honestly, since it doesn't match up with anything. I'd have to watch the film again to see if there was music missing from one of the ant moments that even the bootleg never had. But if that's the case, I had never noticed before.

 

The one thing that always confused me in the past was that the bootleg had a version of "A New World" with an opening about 35 seconds longer that is not heard in the film or on the old Intrada release. But looking at that track list, "Bee Flight" is combined with something called "After The Bees." Well, combining the old bootleg of the bee cue with that mystery bit from the bootleg fits the track times! I do wonder why that bootleg had mixed it as an intro to "A New World" though since it led to so much confusion, but I am 99% certain this solves it.

 

Just thought I would let people know who were familiar with the older release and the bootleg from long ago. Can't wait to order this new release!

[Richard Penna 3,770]

Turns out that when Horner made his album and removed those cues, I just added them back in to the original Intrada program.

 

Hence the only actual new content I'd get from this new set are the 'extras' bits. I'd really hoped there would be more additional material, in the vein of the Species set.

 

I might hold fire and wait to see what else emerges from Intrada in the next few months.

[Henry Sítrónu 500]

8 hours ago, Jay said:

a nod to Raymond Scott’s 1937 “Powerhouse B” tune

lol, right, a "nod"

[HanFiredFirst 57]

It's an instant order from me - even though I have the 2009 Intrada and there's not much added material, it's good to see it available and not in a limited release this time.

 

I dared pop my head above the parapet on the FB Intrada page to say I thought it was a shame they'd just re-used the same artwork (front and back) rather than having some fun with it, giving it a LLL-level of reimagined artwork, some deluxe presentation and a bit of TLC.  Got shot down quite badly (par for the course it seems) but I do feel it would have been interesting and exciting to see Warm Butter do a special edition, or Matt Ferguson or Jim Titus create some bespoke artwork.  Roger seemed to take it as a personal affront - that the photo montage was classic artwork, "iconic" no less - whereas to me, it's just a photo montage. 

 

Interested to hear what others think - personally I don't think the new artwork LLL frequently use detracts from any classic artwork, make it less identifiable or reduce its iconic feel, but perhaps I'm in a minority of one.

[Holko 9,611]

19 minutes ago, HanFiredFirst said:

rather than having some fun with it, giving it a LLL-level of reimagined artwork, some deluxe presentation and a bit of TLC

Haha those terms are pretty alien to them. I love most of the things Titus does and like most of the things Goldwasser does, but I generally dislike that Intrada always lazily reuses the originally used art, be it good or bad, and executes the reworking usually not very well. But in some cases like this where it's good art and iconic/memorable enough for what it is (not exactly a milestone masterpiece movie or score in most contexts), I have no real problem with it, only with the execution (surface level cleanup with a lot of dirt left in, no real color correction so the white is not actually white and the shadows are bluish, not fitting font for the added "Expanded..." text, and a very cramped feeling down there with the text just barely not touching things on both sides).

[HanFiredFirst 57]

6 minutes ago, Holko said:

Haha those terms are pretty alien to them. I love most of the things Titus does and like most of the things Goldwasser does, but I generally dislike that Intrada always lazily reuses the originally used art, be it good or bad, and executes the reworking usually not very well. But in some cases like this where it's good art and iconic/memorable enough for what it is (not exactly a milestone masterpiece movie or score in most contexts), I have no real problem with it, only with the execution (surface level cleanup with a lot of dirt left in, no real color correction so the white is not actually white and the shadows are bluish, not fitting font for the added "Expanded..." text, and a very cramped feeling down there with the text just barely not touching things on both sides).

I think it's also the fact that this release (like Something Wicked before it) is a pretty much identical release to a prior Intrada score. So reusing (and as you say, reusing quite badly) the same album art with just a bit of extra script, just feels a tad deflating. By all means retain the original "iconic" artwork, but have it as the reverse of a flipper, or have new artwork on a slipcase... just something to make it feel like it's special and worth the $40 (inc delivery to the UK).

[JTN 2,242]

Regarding the “great” Intrada label:

I’m still waiting for my INCHON replacement discs…

[HanFiredFirst 57]

Just now, JTN said:

Regarding the “great” Intrada label:

I’m still waiting for my INCHON replacement discs…

Did you have some faulty discs?  

[JTN 2,242]

You could say that.

[Richard Penna 3,770]

E-mail Intrada asking for your free copy (stating your case for why you should get one), then share Roger's reply with us - which I'm sure you will have no issue doing unless his response is to point out that you are wrong....

[Jay 37,516]

Please no Inchon talk in this thread thanks

[JTN 2,242]

I would love to get Horner’s score since I missed the previous release. The film is pure 80s escapism, and the score is so much fun. 

[crumbs 14,382]

3 hours ago, HanFiredFirst said:

I dared pop my head above the parapet on the FB Intrada page to say I thought it was a shame they'd just re-used the same artwork (front and back) rather than having some fun with it, giving it a LLL-level of reimagined artwork, some deluxe presentation and a bit of TLC.  Got shot down quite badly (par for the course it seems) but I do feel it would have been interesting and exciting to see Warm Butter do a special edition, or Matt Ferguson or Jim Titus create some bespoke artwork.  Roger seemed to take it as a personal affront - that the photo montage was classic artwork, "iconic" no less - whereas to me, it's just a photo montage. 

 

I'm not sure why Intrada's artwork is so low effort but it's certainly another missed opportunity.

 

For anyone who can't see how the official artwork is flawed, this GIF might help. I did basic colour correction, digital dirt removal and fixed the white levels (they're actually a dull greenish grey on the official art). The key art is riddled with dirt from the raw scan of the poster artwork, and the photographic elements have an ugly blue tint... frankly it's baffling even the most basic cleanup wasn't attempted. Even the background is riddled with dirt!

 

This cleanup took barely 30 minutes.

 

 

Roger is missing the forest for the trees when people take issue with Intrada's artwork.

 

It's not that reusing existing artwork is flawed. It's that it's presented so poorly when it is used.

[HanFiredFirst 57]

4 minutes ago, crumbs said:

 

I'm not sure why Intrada's artwork is so low effort but it's certainly another missed opportunity.

 

For anyone who can't see how the official artwork is flawed, this GIF might help. I did basic colour correction, digital dirt removal and fixed the white levels (they're actually a dull greenish grey on the official art). The key art is riddled with dirt and scratch artifacts from the raw scan of the poster artwork... frankly it's baffling even the most basic cleanup wasn't attempted here. Even the background is riddled with dirt.

 

 

 

 

 

"But it's iconic!" lols. Any chance you could share the cleaned up art - great job at removing all the detritus and bringing the image to life!

[JTN 2,242]

26 minutes ago, crumbs said:

This cleanup took barely 30 minutes.

That long?

[Jay 37,516]

There were 23 cues recorded for Honey, I Shrunk The Kids.  Looking at the tracklist, this 2024 Intrada has every single one of them included and the chronological order would be:

1. 01 Main Title (1:58)
2. 02 Strange Neighbors (1:49)
3. 03 Test Run (2:08)
4. 19 Grand Slam (0:32)
5. 20 Laser Beam (0:31) {this track contains two cues}
6. 04 Shrunk (5:38)
7. 05 A New World (3:31)
8. 06 A Long Way Home (3:33)
9. 07A Bee Flight
10. 08 The Machine Works (2:05)
11. 07B After The Bees
12. 09 Watering The Grass (4:13)
13. 10 Ant Rodeo (3:45)
14. 11 Flying Szalinski (1:59) {this track contains two cues}
15. 12 Letting Antony Go (1:51)
16. 13 Night Time (5:04)
17. 14 Scorpion Attack (3:34)
18. 15 Lawn Mower! (5:44)
19. 16 Eaten Alive (2:45)
20. 17 Big Russ Volunteers (1:24)
21. 18 Thanksgiving Dinner And End Credits (5:28)

 

Now, track 21 "Astride The Ant", based on the name and length, appears to be the same cue that already makes up the second half of the track "Flying Szalinki".  However, it could be an alternate, or something else previously unknown to exist for this score.  It remains to be seen!

[JTN 2,242]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Now, track 21 "Astride The Ant", based on the name and length, appears to be the same cue that already makes up the second half of the track "Flying Szalinki".

But isn’t Track 21 “Thanksgiving Dinner and End Credits”? 

[Jay 37,516]

... no?

[JTN 2,242]

Then I can’t find the track “Astride the Ant”…

[Jay 37,516]

2 minutes ago, JTN said:

Then I can’t find the track “Astrid the Ant”…

 

There is no track called that.