Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Available to purchase Tuesday, Otober 23rd at 12:00 PST. https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/photos/a.10152288788588755/10157009890353755/?type=3&theater The Illustrious Jerry and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Why did you change your profile pic, Jay. It's no Williams release. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 Are you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, Brundlefly said: Why did you change your profile pic, Jay. It's no Williams release. Because it's a frikkin' awesome cover, that's why! Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Aw man, talk about a tease.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 ... and what about Superman 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: It's no Williams release. yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Bespin said: ... and what about Superman 1? I think the indication is that it's coming next, now that we know Superman IV reissue wasn't just a one-off. I'd be amazed if LLL reissued all of the Blue Box *except* for the original Williams score. They're just working their way backwards like Intrada did with the four Jaws scores. Yavar Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 Serious question: Is that Christopher Reeves' chin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Serious question: Is that Christopher Reeves' chin? It isn't a Titus painting? I'd assumed it was and I'd also assume he used Reeve as the model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Wojo 2,453 Posted October 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2018 Glad it's available for those who don't own the Blue Box. Nick Parker, Maglorfin and Jay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 25 minutes ago, Jay said: Serious question: Is that Christopher Reeves' chin? No, it's a publicity shot Warner did before casting Chris Reeve as Superman. There is the story on the CapedWonder.com website. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I wonder if these are re-worked or remastered at all by MM or if they were fine as they were on the Blue Box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 My guess would be we won't hear any more about them until late Monday, October 22nd when the email goes out. Unless one of the Superman fan sites gets the exclusive scoop to debut the tracklist early Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I hope it includes the Moroder material for III. That would be a draw to me. I had a CD-R of II and III once, but I don't know where it is. This is not something that's very high on my wish list (a lot of it comes off as second-hand regurgitations of Williams' first score), but I would at the very least sample it. The most interesting thing about the LLL Facebook post was the series PHILIP K. DICK'S ELECTRIC DREAMS, which is a series I hadn't heard about before. I've been on the lookout for a new sci fi series to watch, so that was a useful tip. Not usually a fan of anthology shows, but I liked BLACK MIRROR, and hopefully this is more in that street. Also has a string of very interesting composers, so I'm no doubt very curious about that soundtrack set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 7 minutes ago, MrJosh said: I wonder if these are re-worked or remastered at all by MM or if they were fine as they were on the Blue Box. I could be completely wrong, but at least with original score's Blue Box presentation, I thought I remember reading some complaints that the sound was a little iffy...something about being too tinny or "dead"? Is this warranted at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I wish we had a cover like this, but for Power Girl. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: I wish we had a cover like this, but for Power Girl. I'd prefer Milana Vayntrub as Squirrel Girl doing the same pose, if that project ever happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 37 minutes ago, Thor said: PHILIP K. DICK'S ELECTRIC DREAMS, which is a series I hadn't heard about before. I've been on the lookout for a new sci fi series to watch, so that was a useful tip. Not usually a fan of anthology shows, but I liked BLACK MIRROR, and hopefully this is more in that street. Also has a string of very interesting composers, so I'm no doubt very curious about that soundtrack set. We watched the first 2 episodes. It's basically a Black Mirror ripoff, with much less bite and polish (and budget). The Anna Paquin episode was actually a pretty interesting story, though not executed too gracefully, and then we saw one about a small group of survivors in a post-apocalyptic world that were trying to beat this AI that had gone rogue in a warehouse. It was not good. I kinda wanted to give the rest of the season a try, but then too many other good shows came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Nick Parker said: I could be completely wrong, but at least with original score's Blue Box presentation, I thought I remember reading some complaints that the sound was a little iffy...something about being too tinny or "dead"? Is this warranted at all? I remember something being said about digital noise reduction being applied, which sucked out some of the detail. The claim had some validity since I thought the isolated score had more clarity and vibrance than the FSM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Jay said: Are you serious? Yeah; Superman II and III are not scores by John Williams, despite Ken Thorne incorporating the Maestro’s music from the first film. Unfortunately, the Maestro was not able to do the music for Superman II and III because of scheduling. On the plus side, LLL releasing Superman IV: The Quest for Peace, and now Superman II and III is a dead-on give away that a remastered and definitive release of the Maestro’s score to Superman will happen by the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Looks like discs 1 & 2 will be Sup II (79:46 score plus 13:17 extras) and Sup III will be disc 3 (64:19 score plus 8:57 extras) if it would be identical to the blue box for what it will have to offer. Love the cover art! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 12 minutes ago, JohnnyD said: Yeah; Superman II and III are not scores by John Williams, despite Ken Thorne incorporating the Maestro’s music from the first film. Unfortunately, the Maestro was not able to do the music for Superman II and III because of scheduling. Pretty sure that's not the reason. I think it had more to do with JW being part of Camp Donner. Thought I read somewhere that after meeting with Lester, JW said he couldn't work for someone like that. Anyway, as much as I'd have loved a Williams Superman sequel score, I think he made the right decision. Time has not been kind to SII, whereas S: TM has retained it's iconic status 40 years on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Nice to see they're continuing with expanding the Superman scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 2 hours ago, TownerFan said: No, it's a publicity shot Warner did before casting Chris Reeve as Superman. There is the story on the CapedWonder.com website. So the image pre-dates Superman I, and is being used for the II/III cover! It makes you wonder, if they are doing I next, what image they'd use for that cover? Anyways, I see now that the website you mentioned uses the same image as the header for their site http://www.capedwonder.com/ I couldn't find the article that explains the original of the still though, got a link to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 14 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: S: TM has retained it's iconic status 40 years on. Right on point. I plan on seeing one of the Fathom Events screenings of Superman in theaters in November in commemorating the 40th anniversary. Never saw it on the big screen. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 In 2015 we had Jaws 4, then 3, 2, 1. Superman I is coming next, apparently. But I'm not sure if the sound improvements will make our jaws drop... like Jaws did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, phbart said: In 2015 we had Jaws 4, then 3, 2, 1. Superman I is coming next, apparently. But I'm not sure if the sound improvements will make our jaws drop... like Jaws did. It's funny how things work, as 2015 marked the 40th anniversary of Jaws. This year marks the 40th anniversary of Superman, so...😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 2, 2018 Author Share Posted October 2, 2018 Too bad 2017 didn't bring us all the Star Wars scores in reverse order to match Maybe 2041 will bring us all the Harry Potter scores in reverse order to match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 2041? No, please no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 9 hours ago, JohnnyD said: Never saw it on the big screen. I did. Saturday 16th December, 1978, at the ABC 1, Shaftesbury Avenue, in 70mm, and 6-track Dolby Stereo. It was, up to that point, the most exhilarating time I'd ever spent, in a cinema. I saw it a total of five times, at the cinema. I loved it then; I love it now. airmanjerm and QuartalHarmony 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 12 hours ago, Nick Parker said: I could be completely wrong, but at least with original score's Blue Box presentation, I thought I remember reading some complaints that the sound was a little iffy...something about being too tinny or "dead"? Is this warranted at all? You remember correctly, but you’re wrong about the aim of the criticism, SII was criticized for sounding like a “marching band” upon its initial release, which is due to it’s played by a smaller orchestra (not the LSO) and poor mastering choices. But the Blue Box SII sounds great! Ken Thorne might’ve not have had the LSO to perform his score, but he did a stellar job none the less and on the Blue Box, MM brings his work justice. Disregard any negative comments regarding sound quality on the Blue Box (and I guess the re-release as well)! 13 hours ago, Brundlefly said: It's no Williams release. This is definitely a JW release! Martyprod 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 5 minutes ago, rough cut said: You remember correctly, but you’re wrong about the aim of the criticism, Not really, STM was criticized for that by certain members on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Yeah, STM definitely sounds different than the previous Rhino release, that’s for sure. Which is better is a matter of preference, though, I’d be hard pressed to say STM on the Blue Box sounds bad. But that is inconsequential since I understood that @Nick Parker‘s question was about Ken Thorne’s contribution to the film series - not the original JW score from ‘77. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, rough cut said: But that is inconsequential since I understood that @Nick Parker‘s question was about Ken Thorne’s contribution to the film series - not the original JW score from ‘77 I said "original score's", referring to the Williams score, so he was correct. Appreciate your response, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Ah, ok ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 14 hours ago, Jay said: We watched the first 2 episodes. It's basically a Black Mirror ripoff, with much less bite and polish (and budget). The Anna Paquin episode was actually a pretty interesting story, though not executed too gracefully, and then we saw one about a small group of survivors in a post-apocalyptic world that were trying to beat this AI that had gone rogue in a warehouse. It was not good. I kinda wanted to give the rest of the season a try, but then too many other good shows came out. Kinda agree after the first episode, a kind of MINORITY REPORT-like premise. First of all, I could hardly understand what the male protagonist said (I believe he spoke a broad Scottish accent or something), second of all the adaptation of the Dick story seemed rather lacklustre and un-exciting. But I could certainly glean some quality "between the lines". Will continue to watch. The premise of the episode you didn't like sounds far more exciting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 12 hours ago, Jay said: So the image pre-dates Superman I, and is being used for the II/III cover! It makes you wonder, if they are doing I next, what image they'd use for that cover? Anyways, I see now that the website you mentioned uses the same image as the header for their site http://www.capedwonder.com/ I couldn't find the article that explains the original of the still though, got a link to it? Sorry, it wasn't an article on the website, but likely a post on Jim Bowers' instagram or Facebook page where he discussed the genesis and usage of this particular picture. He even identified the name of the person posing as Superman. I'm trying to recover it. Btw, looking at the cover, it looks like a variation of a similar image that was used also on the cover of the Superman II Donner Cut DVD cover back in 2006: Which looks like the promotional publicity image used in 1978: Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 They've mirrored the photo for some reason! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I assume that these are the same remasters that graced The Blue Box? 21 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Why did you change your profile pic, Jay. It's no Williams release. It is a legitimate JW release. Its far more legitimate than either SOLO, or ROGUE ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 I also had the Solo album cover as an avatar when that was new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Well Solo DID have a whole track composed and conducted entirely by Williams. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 33 minutes ago, Richard said: I assume that these are the same remasters that graced The Blue Box? Maybe MM will do some super subtle EQ changes, like he did on SPR (or he didn’t do?), and we can have an endless debate whether it sounds better or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Jay said: I also had the Solo album cover as an avatar when that was new Great, kid. Don't get cocky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Holko said: Well Solo DID have a whole track composed and conducted entirely by Williams. Exactly. Superman IV is a Williams release. Solo is a Williams release. Superman II/III is not. IN MY EVER SO DEEPLY HUMBLE OPINION. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 6 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Exactly. Superman IV is a Williams release. Solo is a Williams release. Superman II/III is not. IN MY EVER SO DEEPLY HUMBLE OPINION. Damn you Disco Stu, you made me agree with you. Because what you say is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Any sequel that uses only previously existing Williams themes/material is NOT a Williams release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Just now, Disco Stu said: Any sequel that uses only previously existing Williams themes/material is NOT a Williams release. Especially when Williams didn't have anything to do with the actual scoring of these two apart from providing his music for adaptation. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 II and III do have original material (III more so than II), just not by Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, Falafel said: II and III do have original material (III more so than II), just not by Williams. Well that is also a good point. Which just further separates them from being JW scores in my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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