A. A. Ron 1,744 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 They reissue things sometimes. They've released their deluxe edition for Star Trek 2009 twice. They released a complete edition of The Matrix after a previous deluxe edition. They also did the same thing with The Omen for its 40th anniversary. On top of all that, they've technically already reissued the deluxe edition for Starship Troopers on LP. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Good examples. I want to believe that Starship Troopers is of the same caliber of marketability and sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, Andy said: I would LOVE Starship Troopers reissued, because I’m a dumbass and slept on it when it was out the first time. But isn’t a reissue of that highly unlikely? Does Varese own it in perpetuity? Why would they want to put it out again? Who is steering the ship at Varese nowadays? Is there someone passionate about this stuff, or is it just sort of inherited from Robert Townson? I want to believe the edition @Jay is dreaming of will become reality, but Varese doesn’t seem to reissue things once they’re OOP. It's not likely, no. And I'd assume they have perpetuity rights, they just reissued the Deluxe program on vinyl last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 What a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marcus Stöhr 34 Posted February 22 Popular Post Share Posted February 22 HELLBOY II: THE GOLDEN ARMY it is - will be released also digitally tomorrow: 39 Tracks / ~82 minutes https://www.fmdb.net/releases/36cad9b8-ffb2-4571-9a8b-d7e305e97953 On 06/10/2022 at 5:16 PM, Jay said: Death Becomes Her could be coming to digital on Black Friday when the vinyl edition drops. Took only a couple of months but the digital comes friday courtesy of Back Lot Music in 24 Bit / 96kHz: https://www.fmdb.net/releases/01218f1b-2b50-46a1-b89c-58da29bebb10 Raiders of the SoundtrArk, JTN, ddddeeee and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Is that the actual cover? It's certainly minimalist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Even if I really don't like the lack of title on these, at least it's not crap! This is one way to get rid of fuckups, don't add any text or make any changes to good art, then it can't be ugly text and ugly changes. Like not joining cues and therefore eliminating the possibility of wrong or phasing joins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted February 22 Popular Post Share Posted February 22 It’s a poster from Mike Mignola (Hellboy’s creator and artist) himself. Tallguy, Andy, Jay and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,402 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 Kinda makes me want to watch Atlantis. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,474 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 3 minutes ago, Tallguy said: Kinda makes me want to watch Atlantis. If I'm not mistaken, Mignola did help create the art of Atlantis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,402 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: If I'm not mistaken, Mignola did help create the art of Atlantis. Production designer. Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 14 hours ago, Andy said: Good examples. I want to believe that Starship Troopers is of the same caliber of marketability and sales. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 hours ago, Holko said: at least it's not crap! nevermind, they added crappy black bars to the sides Brando and Evanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 ...sigh... "Match color" exists is photoshop people! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 It makes a big difference when it’s printed. Especially if one black has a bit more gloss than the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 If you look at the cover more close up in an editor the original poster image is more of a dark purply/black gradient. It's not as simple as just making the black bars match its colour - it isn't just one colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,365 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 22 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: If you look at the cover more close up in an editor the original poster image is more of a dark purply/black gradient. It's not as simple as just making the black bars match its colour - it isn't just one colour. Feather! Content-aware fill! Richard Penna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 12 hours ago, Andy said: It makes a big difference when it’s printed. Especially if one black has a bit more gloss than the other. Christ…intrada JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I was just checking the Varese website and it suggests I should go to the international store. And, surely enough, the European site seems to be alive, although it looks slightly more simplified and contains only the products from some time ago. Odd. https://intl.varesesarabande.com/ Also, at the bottom of the page it says this. Have I missed something? Karol ddddeeee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Yep same for me. Getting to the bottom of the page is a challenge though when it keeps autoloading the items! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 14 minutes ago, crocodile said: I was just checking the Varese website and it suggests I should go to the international store. And, surely enough, the European site seems to be alive, although it looks slightly more simplified and contains only the products from some time ago. Odd. https://intl.varesesarabande.com/ Also, at the bottom of the page it says this. Have I missed something? Karol As of February 2018, Varèse operates as a division of Concord Music Group's Craft Recordings label.[1] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: As of February 2018, Varèse operates as a division of Concord Music Group's Craft Recordings label.[1] Ah, that makes sense. I did not realise Craft Recordings are a part of Concord. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Customer service leads to sandbaguk.com, or https://www.sandbagheadquarters.com/ Based in both US (L.A.) and UK, the latter being about 75 minutes from where I am right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Richard Penna said: and UK, the latter being about 75 minutes from where I am right now. Cool, can we the unworthy EU filth buy through you? Richard Penna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 It's a shame warehouses don't generally do customer collections, like I've heard people popping to Intrada's old office years ago. I would literally just drive over there and pick it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just a general aside, Presto seem to have a huge selection of Varese albums to download digitally at pretty decent prices too.. https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/labels/1473/browse?format=2 This includes Hellboy 2 https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9607338--hellboy-ii-the-golden-army Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee 259 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, crocodile said: I was just checking the Varese website and it suggests I should go to the international store. And, surely enough, the European site seems to be alive, although it looks slightly more simplified and contains only the products from some time ago. Odd. https://intl.varesesarabande.com/ Also, at the bottom of the page it says this. Have I missed something? Karol Thanks so much for this. I just bought Hellboy II and Dragon 3, but there are also a few CDs here that are sold out on the US site. You saved me a lot on shipping! crocodile and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 For non-US customers, you might be wise to look at your options before ordering from the Varese international store. The new titles are an astonishing £27 rather than $25 (£20) from the US store. Charging over a third more from their international store seems pretty shoddy. I shall be ordering from elsewhere. (And as a very specific addition of insult to injury, for Guernsey, their international store doesn’t recognise Guernsey as a U.K. postcode, which most online stores do, and it tried to charge me £13.99 recorded delivery instead of a fiver for standard U.K. delivery. I’d have been a bit less pissed off if they had taken the VAT off as it’s not technically chargeable on Guernsey shipments but they didn’t even do that. A strongly worded email has been sent). Update. The automatic “we got your email” response directs you to their FAQ page… Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,048 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I bought HTTY:THW through MBR, €34.95+€17 shipping=€51.95. Expensive, but DHL brings it to my doorstep in perfect condition, without having to deal with customs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,383 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 On 22/02/2024 at 6:53 PM, Holko said: nevermind, they added crappy black bars to the sides I dipped into this at Spotify and in the meantime I think, the composition of about at least half of or 70% of Elfman's scores he could leave to AI. He has a big repertoire of quite generic typical Elfman soundtracks and this is one of them. I am not saying it's bad. It is even quite good, if there weren't these 30-40 other scores of his, that almost sound the same. With Elfman and me it is an up and down. I am currently in a down. Jay and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I've got the OST of this score. It was good enough to warrant a purchase. Barely. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 23 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I dipped into this at Spotify and in the meantime I think, the composition of about at least half of or 70% of Elfman's scores he could leave to AI. He has a big repertoire of quite generic typical Elfman soundtracks and this is one of them. I am not saying it's bad. It is even quite good, if there weren't these 30-40 other scores of his, that almost sound the same. With Elfman and me it is an up and down. I am currently in a down. Yup. Elfman on autopilot isn’t for me. When he’s good, he’s brilliant. But I don’t recall that being the case here. 13 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I've got the OST of this score. It was good enough to warrant a purchase. Barely. Thanks for the feedback. I’m sure it’s a good score, but I’m not an Elfman completist, and I don’t need to spend money to add average music to my shelf. I remember absolutely loving the film though, more than the first one. So maybe I do owe it a listen at least. Yavar Moradi and GerateWohl 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 It's partly autopilot-ey, but quite polished. I paid next to nothing for it in a sale. Then it was worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: For non-US customers, you might be wise to look at your options before ordering from the Varese international store. The new titles are an astonishing £27 rather than $25 (£20) from the US store. Charging over a third more from their international store seems pretty shoddy. I shall be ordering from elsewhere. What's worse is that, as the screengrabs you posted suggest, their int'l arrangement isn't quite all glued together. There is https://intl.varesesarabande.com/ which is the branded front door, but it's run by https://intlstore.concord.com/ and the fulfilment is done by some company called Sandbag whose support page is just some generic ticketing system. It's also very unclear how you go about creating an account from the Varese front door - I think you have to go to Concord's site to do that. The old int'l store worked fine from a technical perspective. This is just bad design across the board. I've raised a ticket to cancel my current order and I've reordered from the US site. I was originally going to just wait for it but the whole sellotaping together of this process has irritated me. The price difference could maybe be explained by the cost of shipping over a load of units to the UK? (perhaps from mainland Europe) They're charging nearly £5 for only 2nd class delivery though, which itself is extravagant. No risk of customs of course but I can barely remember the last time they took any interest in a CD. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 25 Popular Post Share Posted February 25 On 23/02/2024 at 8:30 AM, Jurassic Shark said: As of February 2018, Varèse operates as a division of Concord Music Group's Craft Recordings label.[1] I just received this email from Craft. Note the expiration date of the discount coupon😒 Edmilson, Jurassic Shark, HunterTech and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Have you tried using it anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 12 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Have you tried using it anyway? Don't. Trust. Them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 24/02/2024 at 6:30 PM, Richard Penna said: What's worse is that, as the screengrabs you posted suggest, their int'l arrangement isn't quite all glued together. There is https://intl.varesesarabande.com/ which is the branded front door, but it's run by https://intlstore.concord.com/ and the fulfilment is done by some company called Sandbag whose support page is just some generic ticketing system. It's also very unclear how you go about creating an account from the Varese front door - I think you have to go to Concord's site to do that. The old int'l store worked fine from a technical perspective. This is just bad design across the board. I've raised a ticket to cancel my current order and I've reordered from the US site. I was originally going to just wait for it but the whole sellotaping together of this process has irritated me. Yeah, their "newly launched" international score doesn't really seem to be working probably exactly. I decided to get Hellboy 2 from Presto as a download as it was less than a tenner and I can't say it's a top tier Elfman score for me so I don't think I'll feel like I'm missing out not having the CD. HTTYD3 will definitely be purchased but much more likely from Intrada or Music Box (if I can find enough things they have in store to order from the latter due to their "post-Brexit somehow how you need to order a couple of hundred euros of CDs due to VAT rules which don't apply to me because I'm in Guernsey but whatever" rule. On 24/02/2024 at 6:30 PM, Richard Penna said: The price difference could maybe be explained by the cost of shipping over a load of units to the UK? (perhaps from mainland Europe) They're charging nearly £5 for only 2nd class delivery though, which itself is extravagant. No risk of customs of course but I can barely remember the last time they took any interest in a CD. A third more? £7 per set for bulk freight? Seems unlikely to be that much. Given that they presumably ship in bulk and the amount online stores charge in postage is often significantly above retail postage (presumably to accounting for the "packaging" element of P&P) I can't believe it's anywhere close to that. I haven't actually checked but I bet the overall price works out the same if you order from the US store. Their older delivery people were crap* I certainly don't remember the store price or postage being so much. *Having said that, I did well with several of the packages they failed to get correct as they didn't want me to send the wrong discs or duplicates back so I was able to sell them on eBay (for less than retail - I'm not a total bastard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 On 24/02/2024 at 5:41 PM, Andy said: Thanks for the feedback. I’m sure it’s a good score, but I’m not an Elfman completist, and I don’t need to spend money to add average music to my shelf. That's wise. What's your verdict on Dolores Claiborne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,048 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 I myself like it a lot. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's wise. What's your verdict on Dolores Claiborne? Haven’t heard it. I enjoyed Sommersby and thought Black Beauty was decent. Two examples of non-genre Elfman from roughly the same era. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 53 minutes ago, Andy said: Haven’t heard it. I enjoyed Sommersby and thought Black Beauty was decent. Two examples of non-genre Elfman from roughly the same era. I haven't heard much from Dolores either. What about Justice League? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,147 Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 It didn't leave an impression. Could've been the theater presentation mix. There wasn't anything in it that made me want to give it a listen on its own. And it wasn't like I hated the film, it's just that the music felt very much in keeping with what other contemporary composers are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted February 25 Popular Post Share Posted February 25 Well, it's official now: They really should stop calling it an "EU store" though as long as everything ships from the UK and everyone in the EU has to pay customs fees. The original launch was pre-Brexit, but for the relaunch that should definitely have been corrected or at least clarified. And yes, the website UX is shit when you have to trigger the auto fetch of the entire list of front page articles before you can click on the FAQ link. enderdrag64, filip and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,474 Posted February 25 Popular Post Share Posted February 25 I thought Elfman's JL score was very underrated. Sure, it may be him on his autopilot action score (kinda like Age of Ultron), but I still think it was pretty decent. Nice themes, fun action and even some emotional moments. HunterTech, greenturnedblue, DemonStar and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,048 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 9 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I haven't heard much from Dolores either. What about Justice League? The Flash Theme is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Quote tons of back catalog releases previously thought to be sold out Who had previously thought they were sold out - fans (I hope) or Varese themselves? Did they lose track or somehow forget about an entire stock of CDs over here? I feel for those who may have overpaid on Ebay, but at least those who missed out on either of the first two Dragons now have their chance. Credit to Sandbag - I just received (i.e., start of the working day here) confirmation that my int'l store order for HTTYD:HW is cancelled and the refund is on the way, so at least the people behind that operation are completent. Now just need to see when we all start getting shipping notifications from Varese. I quickly compared the final value of each order - my US order was a total of £28 (btw, how are they shipping a 2-CD set for £8 when Intrada/LLL charge a bit over double for the same service?) and my int'l order came to £32. Hence the all-in cost from the US is the same as just the product cost from the UK who want an extra £5 for P&P. The only way that would start to make any financial sense is if the UK product cost included first class postage. And for those in the EU (or, it sounds like, not on the mainland)... I empathise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 hour ago, Richard Penna said: Who had previously thought they were sold out - fans (I hope) or Varese themselves? Did they lose track or somehow forget about an entire stock of CDs over here? I feel for those who may have overpaid on Ebay, but at least those who missed out on either of the first two Dragons now have their chance. Credit to Sandbag - I just received (i.e., start of the working day here) confirmation that my int'l store order for HTTYD:HW is cancelled and the refund is on the way, so at least the people behind that operation are completent. Now just need to see when we all start getting shipping notifications from Varese. I quickly compared the final value of each order - my US order was a total of £28 (btw, how are they shipping a 2-CD set for £8 when Intrada/LLL charge a bit over double for the same service?) and my int'l order came to £32. Hence the all-in cost from the US is the same as just the product cost from the UK who want an extra £5 for P&P. The only way that would start to make any financial sense is if the UK product cost included first class postage. And for those in the EU (or, it sounds like, not on the mainland)... I empathise. So they charge less shipping from their US store to the UK than other US film music retailers which means it's cheaper than ordering from their UK store when you live in the UK? Well that's not madness at all... Might just do Intrada anyway as I expect the postage cost would become less ostentatious if I order a few things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 Yep, in the end the only actual advantage of the UK store for anyone is the quicker ship time if you're ordering something that's in stock. At least one of my recent DEs says 'discs made in the EU' so unless their packaging is behind the times politically, they're pressing them somewhere in mainland Europe and shipping them over to the UK. If that's going to cause up to a month's delay and extra costs for every release, there's very little point of the int'l store for anyone who buys everything at release time (i.e. us). Varese could alleviate these problems to an extent by doing simultaneous digital releases for everything where they legally can. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted February 26 Share Posted February 26 1 minute ago, Richard Penna said: At least one of my recent DEs says 'discs made in the EU' so unless their packaging is behind the times politically, they're pressing them somewhere in mainland Europe and shipping them over to the UK. Cool, even more of a fuck you to us! Richard Penna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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