Edmilson 7,466 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Thank goodness for the invention of the PG-13 then. It allowed movies to be edgier without necessairly being as dark and violent as the R rating demands. Our system in my country is more complex and nuanced. Movies/games/TV shows/etc here are divided in: Free - all audiences can watch it. It's used mostly for stuff specifially targeted to kids. 10 years - Recommended for children over the age of 10. Still kids stuff but with a little violence, think the Disney live action remakes. 12 years - Recommended for children over the ge of 12. This is the rating used by most big budget movies, like almost everything from the MCU, DCEU, Star Wars, etc. 14 years - used for movies that are kinda in the middle, too edgy for younger kids but not too violent, like Fast & Furious, Bond, etc. Curiously, Black Panther is the only MCU movie that got this rating, maybe it was the racial themes? 16 years - used for most horror movies and films like John Wick, Deadpool, Logan, Joker... anyway, almost all R-Rated movies in the US get this rating here. 18 years - it's very rare a movie get this rating, but when it happens, it's because its levels of violence, gore, drug use and nudity are through the roof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 The french system is terrific lol, a complete nonsense IMO: Free: almost all movies from Ice Age to the MCU, from James Bond to Frozen, from Star Wars to Saving Private Ryan, from Hook to Schindler's List... so many movies. 12 years - Forbbiden for people under 12. It's basically the R-Rated stuff minus some which go either in the free area or the 16 years. When it contains some nudity, lots of violence or drugs such as Shining, Seven, Deadpool, Joker 16 years - Very few movies: all thoses containing extreme violence and lots of nudity for instance Basic Instinct, A Clockwork Orange or Reservoir Dogs On the TV we have a better system with a 10 years catergory taking some of the most recent Bond for exemples and Private Ryan gets a 12 years strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positivatee 327 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Lumping Schindler's List with Star Wars is a garbage rating system. When I was in high school, our class petitioned the school board to let us watch SL in class because of its historical significance. It was denied because of the graphic content. Then again, we needed a permission slip to watch An American Tail on the last day of school. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 41 minutes ago, Positivatee said: Lumping Schindler's List with Star Wars is a garbage rating system. When I was in high school, our class petitioned the school board to let us watch SL in class because of its historical significance. It was denied because of the graphic content. Then again, we needed a permission slip to watch An American Tail on the last day of school. I don't think I'd have any problem with a high schooler watching Schindler's List, on the contrary, it'd be good for the teenager to see the horrors of Holocaust. On the other hand, if I had a child, I wouldn't let him/her watch stuff like A Clockwork Orange and Oldboy (the korean original, not the Spike Lee version) until adulthood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 10, 2021 Share Posted December 10, 2021 Colette. My name is Vincent. I was born in 1993 in Belgium and as things currently stand, I shall probably die there. That line was repeated just a little too often in this otherwise good movie. It was great to see Fiona Shaw in something again and apparently I’ve seen Dominic West in loads of stuff too, but somehow forgot all about him. I’m also still getting used to Keira Knightley becoming older, though she’s still amazing. The summary revealed way too much again and the movie ends with way too many captions as well. Why on earth didn’t they film the scene in which the manuscripts got returned to her? Now it doesn’t really feel like the climax it could have been. The score starts out with a few nice, though unremarkable cues and then improves dramatically. I also loved most of the source music and the recording sounds fantastic, but why on earth would one pour champagne into a piano? What happens when you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 UK cinema classification system is relatively simple - U - suitable for all PG - general viewing, some scenes possibly unsuitable for kids 12A - under 12s must be accompanied by an older person. May contain occasional strong language and more intense action/violence than PG films 15 - under 15s not allowed in. Bloodier violence and either very strong language and/or several instances of strong language likely in these films 18 - under 18s not allowed in. See 15, but like ... worse and shit. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Although whatever the rating system, it's always a lower rating for people being gunned down or beaten up than seeing nakedness... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,537 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 5 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Although whatever the rating system, it's always a lower rating for people being gunned down or beaten up than seeing nakedness... I'd rather see a piece of ass, than someone getting beaten up, anytime 5 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: UK cinema classification system is relatively simple - U - suitable for all PG - general viewing, some scenes possibly unsuitable for kids 12A - under 12s must be accompanied by an older person. May contain occasional strong language and more intense action/violence than PG films 15 - under 15s not allowed in. Bloodier violence and either very strong language and/or several instances of strong language likely in these films 18 - under 18s not allowed in. See 15, but like ... worse and shit. Do we still have the Not Rated classification? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 29 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: I'd rather see a piece of ass, than someone getting beaten up, anytime Well quite...and most people experience more nakedness and sex than violence in killing in their lives and yet violence and killing are considered less of an issue for the youth than nakedness and sex. I love when films are described as having "thematic material". I do hate a film that has thematic material and would never like kids watch something with thematic material, it'll scar them for life. All those... themes. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 11, 2021 Share Posted December 11, 2021 Johnny English reborn. Way better than the first one. Perhaps 10 minutes of superfluous suspense, but other than that I really can’t complain. Gillian Anderson is a vast improvement over Judi Dench, though I got tired of her in the end too. Rosamund Pike is great and I watched two Dominic West movies in one week. Why does Word claim Rosamund is misspelled? The score is great. A little too much emphasis on the bass region, perhaps, but the overall recording sounds perfect. I was surprised they even managed to insert a few 007 theme statements too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,537 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 13 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: I love when films are described as having "thematic material". I do hate a film that has thematic material and would never like kids watch something with thematic material, it'll scar them for life. All those... themes. Indeed. Heaven forbid that any film should actually be about something. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 17 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: I'd rather see a piece of ass, than someone getting beaten up, anytime Do we still have the Not Rated classification? There used to be a 'Restricted 18' DVD classification for, erm, the sort of viewing material during which one or both of one's hands might be ... busy. No idea if it still exists. Die Hard/Die Hard 2 - annual festive rewatch. Yippee-ki-ay, present-wrappers! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,537 Posted December 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 12, 2021 3 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: Die Hard/Die Hard 2 - annual festive rewatch. Yippee-ki-ay, present-wrappers! DIE HARD. Best. Fucking. Christmas. Film. Ever. Sweeping Strings, Chen G. and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positivatee 327 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 21 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: most people experience more nakedness and sex than violence in killing in their lives and yet violence and killing are considered less of an issue for the youth than nakedness and sex. Ah... America. Jurassic Shark and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 11/12/2021 at 12:33 PM, Tom Guernsey said: Although whatever the rating system, it's always a lower rating for people being gunned down or beaten up than seeing nakedness... This will always be amazing. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positivatee 327 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 We live in a terrible world. Kids get massacred at school and it's dismissed as just the way things are because sacred freedoms protect it. There's too much evil in the hearts of people and easy ways to vent this rage. But replace that with love. Imagine if every school shooting was a mass orgy because the kid saw a porno instead of a shoot em up. Turn the rage into love. The outrage would be worse from the prudish oligarchy... But the death toll could be less. Jurassic Shark and Tom Guernsey 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Seeing genitals is dangerous because it can lead to unwanted pregnancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 12:53 PM, Jurassic Shark said: Seeing genitals is dangerous because it can lead to unwanted pregnancy. Science has proven that seeing a tallywacker is way more dangerous to kids than watching a man being gunned down to his death. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Could be. Tom Guernsey and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Jeez, Pubs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Quest for Fire - As one wag on the IMDB described it, this is basically the Dawn of Man sequence from 2001 turned into a full movie. But a pretty successful one for all that, although it's not hard to keep noticing Ron Perlman (in his first role) as one of the leads in amongst the cast of considerably less well known names (although perhaps better known in France?!). Philippe Sarde's score is an interesting mix of 20th century symphonic writing, Ligeti choral moments (2001 again) and some non-specific ethnic styling with panpipes. A few moments the score is pretty overwrought relative to what's happening on screen with huge orchestral flourishes at relatively benign moments. However, it works great on disc although the sound pinched and is in dire need of remastering - in the film, the mix is much better. Having said that, you can't help wonder what someone like Jerry Goldsmith would have done with it. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Hot Fuzz - the second of Pegg, Frost and Wright's 'Cornetto Trilogy' remains a glorious parody of/homage to action movies (along with many other things), particularly those of the 'mismatched cop duo' variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestMusic 31 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2001: A Space Odyseey. Slow as hell, but interesting (and the music is phenomenal too!) Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,537 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 7 hours ago, Sweeping Strings said: Hot Fuzz - the second of Pegg, Frost and Wright's 'Cornetto Trilogy' remains a glorious parody of/homage to action movies (along with many other things), particularly those of the 'mismatched cop duo' variety. Agreed. It's also a very affecting film about male platonic friendship. 2 hours ago, ForestMusic said: 2001: A Space Odyseey. Really? Never seen that one Sweeping Strings 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 On 12/12/2021 at 6:57 AM, Positivatee said: Ah... America. Well, at least we don't have a Board of Censors cutting out anything they feel is offensive or ' harmful'. BBFC has mutilated countless films including the Leone masterpieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 I just watched "Elf" for the first time... At the begining I was not sure but at the end I shed a tear or two... Nice John Debney score too!! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,537 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I can honestly say that I have never seen ELF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I watched it for the very first time recently, and I honestly didn't find it memorable in any way. Also, I have very low tolerance for Will Ferrel's antics. They have to come in very small doses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 I'm not a big Elf fan, but I like that it grew @Bespin's Grinchy heart 3 sizes Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 The matrix. Finally managed to watch another movie that has been on my list for years. I think the main reason I kept postponing this one is because I thought I already knew what it was going to be about thanks to a Belgian comedian I used to worship ten years ago and who I recently came to realise is really a smutty, sexually frustrated prick. Fortunately, what I knew only turned out to be the premise, not the actual final reveal of the movie: that his world was not real. But tonight, I finally bit the bullet and something extraordinary happened just after I had pressed play. The score started. As those bassoons, cellos and double basses began to play their notes, I knew. I knew I was going to be in for something incredible without having watched a single scene. And now that it’s all over, I think it’s safe to say the first half was definitely incredible. I don’t know what made this score so infectious (no pun intended): the exquisite brass writing or the repetitive electronic stuff. It was so simple and yet so catchy. The only thing I don’t understand is why Reeves was searching for the matrix before he even knew what it was. And then, Laurence Fishburne made his entrance. My God, he’s good. I must say this movie kind of makes Inception sound less impressive too. Another thing that usually bugs me in these kind of movies is the whole ‘you’re the only one who can do this’ thing, but unlike, say, Star Wars, they actually handled it quite intelligently here. Reeves still sounds weird, but now was hardly a problem. It was all to compelling for that to be a nuisance. The second half was more action-packed and by extension not really my cup of tea. I also feel I need to re-watch it to really understand what’s happening in the matrix and outside of it, though it’s all starting to make sense now too. I definitely do not like the kiss of life at the end, though. Really cheesy and unnecessary. It made the clear rules of the game a lot less clear. Phew! My mind is spinning. I’m so happy I have another franchise exploration to look forward to. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 19 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I’m so happy I have another franchise exploration to look forward to. Prepare to get disappointed, it goes downhill from here. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Don't say things like that now. I'm still too excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 12 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Don't say things like that now. I'm still too excited. No problem. Let me know when you've seen the second installment - that's when I got enough. The first one's great, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: But tonight, I finally bit the bullet and something extraordinary happened just after I had pressed play. The score started. As those bassoons, cellos and double basses began to play their notes, I knew. I knew I was going to be in for something incredible without having watched a single scene. The magic of music. I love it. 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: I don’t know what made this score so infectious (no pun intended): What's the pun? 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: the exquisite brass writing or the repetitive electronic stuff. It was so simple and yet so catchy. Yes! 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: The only thing I don’t understand is why Reeves was searching for the matrix before he even knew what it was. He's the one alright 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: And then, Laurence Fishburne made his entrance. My God, he’s good. He was great in the first one, sadly he acts like someone parodying himself in the sequels 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: Phew! My mind is spinning. I’m so happy I have another franchise exploration to look forward to. The scores and action sequences are great in the sequels. Sadly, nothing else is. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jay said: 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: the exquisite brass writing or the repetitive electronic stuff. It was so simple and yet so catchy. Yes! What electronic stuff, though? There's quite a bit of electronics in the score, of course, but mostly they're part of the percussion or atmospheric pads, I believe. There's a couple of electronic ostinatos, but as far as I recall, most of the busy ostinato stuff is real instruments in various combinations. It's quite amazing what you can do with woodwinds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 10 hours ago, Jay said: The magic of music. I love it. What's the pun? Yes! He's the one alright He was great in the first one, sadly he acts like someone parodying himself in the sequels The scores and action sequences are great in the sequels. Sadly, nothing else is. The pun was infectious. Weaving said humans were like a disease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 I thought that might have been what you were going for bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 17/12/2021 at 11:36 PM, bollemanneke said: Don't say things like that now. I'm still too excited. Don't watch the sequels! That's my good advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,537 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 THE MATRIX RELOADED can be summed-up in two words: Monica Bellucci. Hell, yeah! bruce marshall and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 Resurrections is either brilliant or 150 minutes of exposition with 'choppy' Bourne-esque action, depending on which early review you read. This Is Spinal Tap, watched with the band's commentary for the first time. A hoot, but obviously in a different way to a usual viewing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,537 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 12 minutes ago, Sweeping Strings said: This Is Spinal Tap, watched with the band's commentary for the first time. A hoot, but obviously in a different way to a usual viewing. Fucking Limeys. It's among the funniest films ever made, and chock full of golden nuggets. Jazz Odyssey reduces me to tears! My favourite exchange: It's a bit Mozart, it's a bit Bach. It's Mach. What's it called? Sweeping Strings and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: THE MATRIX RELOADED can be summed-up in two words: Monica Bellucci. Hell, yeah! Count me in in that case, she's awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 I like the Matrix sequels for what they are. The Wachowski's said before that they are more or less just going to be super hero flicks. And it is the logical extension to the forst one. And it was a "saviour/Jesus" story from the very beginning. Just the action sequences in the sequels were too long and they should have merged Reloaded and Revolutions into one movie. But that's it for the criticism. Animatrix is fun, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 gunfight at the OK corral. That was pretty good, though the gunfight definitely lasted more than 30 seconds. The audio-describer seemed to have a blast doing this one, which made it extra fun. Betty is the only woman who doesn’t sound like every other woman in old movies. I also really liked the slow pacing, just what I needed right before the hectic holiday season. This was my first Tiompkin score. I didn’t like all of it, but there are so many singular moments of beauty, emotion and heroism that you just don’t hear anymore. Why couldn’t they have recorded all this stuff a few years later when they did have decent equipment? It doesn’t only sound bad now, it’s also way too soft and obviously in mono. I also really liked the song and was surprised how they used it to tell us about what was going on in the movie too. The foley guys forgot to add some sounds, though. Whiskey time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 The Second Renaissance (Parts 1 and 2) from The Animatrix are the second best thing this franchise produced after the first movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,537 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 6 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Whiskey time. "Whiskey"? Wh-? No. Wrong. All wrong. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 20 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Fucking Limeys. It's among the funniest films ever made, and chock full of golden nuggets. Jazz Odyssey reduces me to tears! My favourite exchange: It's a bit Mozart, it's a bit Bach. It's Mach. What's it called? Years and years after the film came out I finally found my 'Holy Grail' - " Jazz Oddysey" COMPLETE! on CD! " you want jazz? We'll show you jazz!" -Derek Smalls Finally watched " THE BOOK THIEF, mainly for the score. If this came out BEFORE A.I. I probably would have liked it more. The piano heavy score was a bit too derivative. The film itself was tedious and cliched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,338 Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 2 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Finally watched " THE BOOK THIEF, mainly for the score. If this came out BEFORE A.I. I probably would have liked it more. The piano heavy score was a bit to derivative. The film itself was tedious and cliched. My sentiments exactly! bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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