Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Yes, it's a rope bracelet. You can see it more clearly in Marian's Flickr album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,529 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 What's a rope bracelet? Something to honour his daughters, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 You've seen various cheap bracelets made of thin rope, right? This is just a tattooed version of it. I don't know what this particular design means. Jean B probably knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 5 minutes ago, Thor said: That's Sandra Tomek - the woman behind the Hollywood in Vienna events. No, that's not Tomek, but somebody else who was in charge of press management that day I believe. I don't think I've seen her at any other Hollywood in Vienna stuff. (Tomek was there that day, and I have a couple of photos of you talking to her before the Horner interview, but she's not on any of the pics I posted above) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,529 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Yeah, sorry, you're right. I've seen her a couple of times since (is her name Doris-something?). I believe she also organized the Elfman "red carpet" interview for me a few years later. I think she's part of the "inner circle". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Did she have any tattoos? Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 7, 2021 Share Posted May 7, 2021 Four examples of retouched photos. Dont forget to give me credit!😝 Portrait of James (C)by Bruce Marshall LSH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Let's see Jay do THAT! 😅😉 Side by side comparisons: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 I'm not sure what you're doing, but even your "unedited" versions look worse than my originals. Holko and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 5 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: I'm not sure what you're doing, but even your "unedited" versions look worse than my originals. He's just "got it". Got it? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: He's just "got it". Got it? Who are you calling a chump, chimp? Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Sounds like a line from a Goldsmith scored movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,211 Posted May 8, 2021 Share Posted May 8, 2021 Silvestri. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,441 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 Great photos, Marian! Is there a link to Thor's interview? Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,529 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 http://celluloidtunes.no/celluloid-tunes-08-james-horner-in-vienna-2nd-international-edition/ It also includes comments from Sandra Tomek and David Newman. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Brausam 215 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 I think both Titanic and Braveheart are essentials, both are fairly significant expansions. Titanic in particular really changes the experience, and for the positive. Legends of the Fall adds material that I believe really improves the pacing of the score and highlights themes that weren't heard as much in the original album. Aliens is a great edition as well, if you never picked it up, as well as *Batteries Not Included. But those first two I mentioned really shouldn't be missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 10, 2021 Share Posted May 10, 2021 5 hours ago, Smeltington said: Great photos, Marshall! thank you.. 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jean-Baptiste Martin 255 Posted May 11, 2021 Author Share Posted May 11, 2021 On 5/7/2021 at 6:48 PM, Jurassic Shark said: You've seen various cheap bracelets made of thin rope, right? This is just a tattooed version of it. I don't know what this particular design means. Jean B probably knows. Yes I remember her daughter telling us about this tattoo at the Zoom meeting with her on Patreon. The recording is visible on the page. I will check it.@Marian Schedenig Thanks for the pictures! I will contact you when the time comes to get the Raw files of 2 or 3 pictures. Marian Schedenig and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 https://www.facebook.com/OmniMusicPublishing: On June 2nd at 12PM Pacific, please join Timothy Rodier and Dan Redfeld in a discussion with writer/director Phil Alden Robinson. This Zoom event is sponsored by ASMAC. Topics will include the relationship between composer and director, spotting the film, and the recording process. We will look at the scores to several cues against picture including Omni Music Publishing's upcoming release, "Sneakers." Don't miss this unique opportunity to listen to a great filmmaker talk about working with Oscar-winning composer James Horner. Also on the panel will be Sara Horner, Jim Henrikson, and Joe E. Randhttps://asmac.org/index.php/calendar/parties/060221-composerdirector WampaRat and MikeH 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Does any official Titanic sheet music exist? By official, I mean JW Signature Edition style, approved by Horner, no dumbed down arrangement crap etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 According to this review, the new Blu-ray of 48 HRS. includes an isolated score, but it isn't mentioned in the list of specs on any website. Could it be a hidden feature, or was it added too late to be included in the press release from a while ago? Does this mean that the sequel might also have an isolated score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 Doubt the sequel would, but I hope I'm wrong. There was never anything beyond the OST. The first one ended up on iTunes for about a minute (the Intrada release, just rebranded) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted July 2, 2021 Share Posted July 2, 2021 If it is true and not just some anomaly on a reviewer's copy, I hope that at least it contains the film version of the second half of "Subway Station" in good quality. There is some tracked music in the film as well, so I'm curious if that will be included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted July 3, 2021 Share Posted July 3, 2021 Yeah the Intrada version had such a wildly (improvised) sax line that was really out there. The boot version was the film version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I'm interested... What is your favourite 'Hornerism'? Of all his numerous traits and stylistic doings - plagiaristic or not* - what repeating musical motifs or textures do you love the most? One of my favourites is the 'rolling' final chord that always resolves a sentimental chord progression, usually with piano in there somewhere. Examples: JUMANJI (immediately in this case): More obvious in this one, from THE PERFECT STORM, again immediately: *this will not become a debate about his 'stealings' from the classical repertoire... keep it civil I have more, I just want to open it out to the forum... By the way, is this worthy of a thread, if it hasn't been done already? Favourite 'isms'. MikeH and Corellian2019 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Yes! Not a fan of that "rolling" final chord due to some overuse, but I'm glad that someone else noticed it. I think that my favorite application of that technique would be the "Virtual Reality" cues from House Of Cards. That's probably where I first heard it, too! LSH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Hi folks, I need some thoughts on this topic. Some of you might know that I'm a professional musician but my sister is not and is asking about James Horner scores. She mentions Braveheart as wonderful example of his talent, but I'd like to give her a play list of how fantastic a composer he was and am seeking playlist guidance for someone not as familiar of how to explore his scores. I was thinking of suggesting these scores in order but what are your thoughts? So ignoring some of his super popular music but focusing more on the "sticky" music he composed that for me at least is just so fantastic, I can't get it out of my head once I hear it. Is that a wrong approach? Your thoughts? So my playlist would be something like this: Star Trek 2 (1982) Krull (1983) <- so so film but great score Star Trek 3 (1984) Cocoon (1985) Willow (1988) The Land Before Time (1988) Glory (1989) <- FANTASTIC MUST WATCH FILM The Rocketeer (1991) <- FANTASTIC MUST WATCH FILM Page master (1994) Legends of the Fall (1994) Braveheart (1995) Titanic (1997) <- musically the score is average but it’s James Cameron’s best film and a great song but average score. I’ll rank this with Troy, it serves its purpose well but that’s all. A Beautiful Mind (2001) <- FANTASTIC MUST WATCH FILM Wolf Totem (2015) <- Wonderful score, the year he died Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Sticky? Apollo 13 Glory Braveheart Field of Dreams Avatar The Rocketeer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,474 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Also: Deep Impact The Bicentennial Man The Perfect Storm Enemy at the Gates The Four Feathers Troy I just love late 90s/early 2000s Horner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 sticky themes? No one recommended Mask of Zorro? Shame. That film and Horner’s score are a perfect bit o’ fun:) (The sequel not so much.) Heck recommend Willow (film and score) too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 I would also recommand Casper, Balto and Aliens which are need to hear scores IMO, plus *batteries not included (even though it's a bit similar with some Cocoon materials). But you already have a great playlist I think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,383 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 Noone mentions Brainstorm? I went through his scores on Spotify and this was one of the few where I listened more interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 No worries, I will soon present my JWFan 2021 competition piece, which totally sounds like a Horner rip-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 14 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Noone mentions Brainstorm? I went through his scores on Spotify and this was one of the few where I listened more interested. Definitely should be a top choice. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,529 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 7 hours ago, karelm said: She mentions Braveheart as wonderful example of his talent, but I'd like to give her a play list of how fantastic a composer he was and am seeking playlist guidance for someone not as familiar of how to explore his scores. I was thinking of suggesting these scores in order but what are your thoughts? First, I would need to know a bit more about her taste other than that she likes BRAVEHEART. What type of music does she usually gravitate towards? Is it melody and themes, first and foremost, or is she open to more textural affairs? Does she like orchestral music in general? Is ethnic flavours a thing? Does she veer towards the calm or the upbeat and actioney? Stuff like that. Anyone can recommend stuff they like themselves, but that doesn't mean that whoever they're recommending for will share your preferences. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,383 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, Thor said: Anyone can recommend stuff they like themselves, but that doesn't mean that whoever they're recommending for will share your preferences. Hm. For me recommendations are not pnecessarily about meeting preferences. When you get someone on the hook for something, that you like you use the opportunity to propose as well things, of which you think, this is someone the person should like as well. (Like you do all the time @Thor in the "Last Score you listened to" thread ) I remember many times feeling almost insulted by people saying "This sounds like something you like". Like people heard, that you like Beethoven and then give you a Classic Rock compilation of the London Symphony orchestra for christmas with these words. With recommendations it is always best to follow your own compass. But I agree, it is usually not enough just to say "Listen to this." An introduction to it and what you find precious or interesting about it should be added as well. And yes, it is helpful to know, what the person likes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: "This sounds like something you like". Like people heard, that you like Beethoven and then give you a Classic Rock compilation of the London Symphony orchestra for christmas with these words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,529 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 16 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Hm. For me recommendations are not pnecessarily about meeting preferences. When you get someone on the hook for something, that you like you use the opportunity to propose as well things, of which you think, this is someone the person should like as well. (Like you do all the time @Thor in the "Last Score you listened to" thread ) I remember many times feeling almost insulted by people saying "This sounds like something you like". Like people heard, that you like Beethoven and then give you a Classic Rock compilation of the London Symphony orchestra for christmas with these words. With recommendations it is always best to follow your own compass. But I agree, it is usually not enough just to say "Listen to this." An introduction to it and what you find precious or interesting about it should be added as well. And yes, it is helpful to know, what the person likes. Sure, that works too. But I always prefer to chart the preferences of whoever I'm recommending to (if I'm being asked for specific recommendations). For example, I have a friend who doesn't like the broad and melodic, who's very much into the avantgarde and dissonant. So you can imagine he has a certain view of Williams that isn't particularly positive. But a few years ago, I played IMAGES for him and it was right up his alley. That was a win for me, because a) I managed to convince someone of Williams' excellence and versatiliy and b) managed to tailormake a recommendation to someone's taste. I mean, I love Horner's THE LIFE BEFORE HER EYES, but I wouldn't recommend it to everyone. Same with THE NAME OF THE ROSE, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,383 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 37 minutes ago, Thor said: Sure, that works too. But I always prefer to chart the preferences of whoever I'm recommending to (if I'm being asked for specific recommendations). For example, I have a friend who doesn't like the broad and melodic, who's very much into the avantgarde and dissonant. So you can imagine he has a certain view of Williams that isn't particularly positive. But a few years ago, I played IMAGES for him and it was right up his alley. That was a win for me, because a) I managed to convince someone of Williams' excellence and versatiliy and b) managed to tailormake a recommendation to someone's taste. I mean, I love Horner's THE LIFE BEFORE HER EYES, but I wouldn't recommend it to everyone. Same with THE NAME OF THE ROSE, for example. I understand that. As usual it is probably somewhere in the middle. You can also have two persons loving the same soundtrack, but the one likes it just because of the music and the other one just because he or she likes the movie. It is not always so easy, If you don't know people's approach to music in general. My kids always need music to be connected to something, a movie, a story, an event. Otherwise they cannot connect to it. They don't value just quality of music. That is why they like particularly a lot of rubbish. But that's how it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 08/05/2021 at 3:23 PM, Marian Schedenig said: I'm not sure what you're doing, but even your "unedited" versions look worse than my originals. It's "art". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 07/12/2021 at 2:41 AM, Jurassic Shark said: It's "art". Something of which ye know naught Btw HORNER is particularly well represented on CD. I know some of you c and c crackpots won't rest till every score is " complete" but im a pretty happy Horner music fan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 On 07/12/2021 at 10:53 AM, Thor said: Same with THE NAME OF THE ROSE, for example. Better one Name of the Rose Main Title then 10 Deep Impact-like pieces that all sound the same. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 THE NAME OF THE ROSE. Horner's true masterpiece bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 2 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Something of which ye know naught Yeah, I know nada about your "art". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,529 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 20 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: THE NAME OF THE ROSE. Horner's true masterpiece It's a brilliant score. But I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to someone who only gravitates towards the broad, symphonic, thematic scores of Horner. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 Would be nice to have this re-released. I like it too. And I enjoy both the film and the book as well. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,556 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 3 hours ago, Thor said: It's a brilliant score. But I wouldn't necessarily recommend it to someone who only gravitates towards the broad, symphonic, thematic scores of Horner. Indeed. It's, definitely, not for the tourists. It is, however, utterly brilliant... like the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,529 Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 "Not for the tourists"....I love that expression. Captures it. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,474 Posted January 29, 2022 Share Posted January 29, 2022 I was reading the Wikipedia page for Fellowship of the Ring, and it mentions that James Horner turned down an offer to score this movie, as well as the first Harry Potter. The source for these claims is the obituary below, which just says that Horner refused to score the two movies but doesn't provide further explanation: https://www.avclub.com/r-i-p-james-horner-1798281000 So that means Howard Shore and John Williams weren't the first choices for their respective movies? Who else was considered before they got the Jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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