Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 So how is the sound?Excellent, I think. Should satisfy those who were bothered by it in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Excellent. I am still wary about these overamplified basses in the more dense cues but this will be as good as it gets anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Porkins 53 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 So how is the sound?The sound is good but like all of LLLs releases, its a bit more compressed than the original release. The first disc has a DR of 11. I listened to a lot of it last night through headphones (Grado 125is) and was quite pleased with the overall sound. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 So how is the sound?There is a bit of a high pitched ring through many of the tracks, but it's pretty minimal, and I suspect most people won't notice it, as I have particularly sensitive hearing. I've noticed most 2000's Williams scores have this, so it's probably just a recording thing. The hiss is definitely much reduced from the original mastering, which was frankly embarrassing. I've also noticed 2 or 3 times where the bass slightly clips, such as at :31 in The Mecha World, in the left channel. Again, that's very minor. Overall, it's a humongous improvement. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 I love this score now. It is trying hard to break into my top 10 Williams scores and who knows, it might succeed with that in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 It's breaking into my top 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 It's breaking past my top one where it was. It's transcending time and space! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 You all must lead happy-go-lucky lives to be able to withstand this depressing score.ET or Raiders or King Solomon's Mines will lift my spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 It doesn't lift my spirit. It makes me accept having a crappy one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yeah, I don't really find it depressing, at least not when listening through to completion. I find it uplifting in a bittersweet way, like it's ok not to understand life's mysteries. I could get very pseudophilosophical about it, but it's definitely Williams' most ambitious and emotionally complex score.His more accessible works just don't make me feel things as vividly as A.I. does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yeah, I don't really find it depressing, at least not when listening through to completion.I find the complete score listening experience rather meditative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 There is nothing depressing about this musical experience. I would be hard pressed to find other scores that have this kind of almost spiritual effect on me. I find elation of a different kind in this music compared to the almost rough joy of listening to the kinds of Raiders of the Lost Ark or even Jurassic Park. They might be uplifting and rousing but this is entirely something else for me. If those mentioned examples are music to lift the spirits, this is music to lift the soul.I'll stop waxing poetic now. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Ha! Just got it. And it was indeed wrapped in a ridiculous amount of bubblewrap. It worked, not a single mark or crack. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Haa! With luck I might get it soon too depending on the speed of the postal service. I tracked the package and it landed in customs on Saturday which means it might be delivered today or tomorrow. Hopefully! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 The sad thing is I now have to leave for work. So it won't be able to listen till late night. Oh the frustration! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Got today the Bluray and probably gonna watch it tonight!The thing is I don't think I will enjoy now the film version of Search for Blue fairy since I know it's an edit and is missing a very good passage from the original version.Anyway..In the meantime, my order still pending at SAE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 The sad thing is I now have to leave for work. So it won't be able to listen till late night. Oh the frustration! KarolWe and our first world problems! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 Inky's review of the La-La Land set is now up on the main page!http://www.jwfan.com/?p=7787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Inky's review of the La-La Land set is now up on the main page!http://www.jwfan.com/?p=7787And yet, information on the actual release and order link is not...I'm joking (seriously, though, it is not there) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Inky's review of the La-La Land set is now up on the main page!http://www.jwfan.com/?p=7787And yet, information on the actual release and order link is not...I'm joking (seriously, though, it is not there) .That's weird, because I can see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Just a question:What version of Cybertronics is with the 1mA extenstion?The one on CD 1 or CD3?edit: oh, never mind. I guess judging from the durations the one on CD1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 The 1MA Extension was always recorded with the rest of the cue; There does not exist a recording without it. The version on Disc 3 was recorded on Feb 13, and then they came back and recorded the whole cue all over again on Mar 6, and that's the version on Disc 1 (which is also the version used in the film, and appeared on the OST and promo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Yes, it sounds sublime from the sample I've heard.I wonder why they didn't go with this version in the film..Maybe it sounds more religious while the solo soprano version sounds more "motherly" and they wanted to go with that? OK, i just finished the film and it seems I made an error.They used the chorus version in the film indeed!* * *If anyone wants to keep the promo, it's not entirely obsolete.A track at lalaland (2m1: cd track 7) has added the insert next to the original bars it was meant to replace.But the promo cue (cd2track6), has the cue without the insert.it's like this:Promo CD2T60.00-2.52: 2m1 (bars 1-50)2.55-end: 2m1 new ending (replaces bars 51-end of 2m1)film version:2m1 bars 1 -21 aprox.2m1 insert (replaces bars appox. 22-50)2m1 new endingLa-laland 0.00-2.49: 2m1 (bars 1-50)2.50-4.49: 2m1 insert4.49-end: 2m1 new endingin summary we have:Promo: original 2m1 + new endingFilm Version (unreleased): 2m1 + insert (replaces part of 2m1)+ new endingLa-laland: 2m1 (incl. bars that insert is meant to replace) + insert + new endingSo, the only cue missing is the new 2m1 with the proper placement of the insert.The reason I believe the insert replaces content and it doesn't add content, is because if you play the original 2m1 cue to the scene, it matches perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 First of all its ridiculous to claim the film version of 2m1 is unreleased, since everything you hear in the film there is in the LLL track!The film was massively re-edited after scoring. In fact there isn't a single cue that plays as intended in the film until the final reel! So it's just as possible the music in the track that isn't in the film was for deleted footage. Even if they did place the insert in the full track instead of putting one version in the main and one in the bonus area, that's hardly a reason to hold onto the promo. You can recreate the promo version from the LLL in much better quality. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Still haven't received a shipping notice yet from SAE... Should I get worried...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 So there are problems with this release? They used wrong takes etc?Maybe I should hold off from ordering it till there's news of a recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 SAE is usually terrible late with their changes of order status. As I have said before I have gotten packages before their "Shipped" e-mail has appeared.So there are problems with this release? They used wrong takes etc?Maybe I should hold off from ordering it till there's news of a recall.I assume they used the film takes on this set and everything else we have heard prior to this release use different ones for certain pieces I guess. I doubt anyone but the most ardently A.I. obsessed and sharp eared fan can hear the difference to be honest.But then again we have a community that goes through the score manuscripts and compares them to the music to authenticate that the will of John Williams has indeed put into the recording. His will be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Has anyone ordered from SAE and has it shipped ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 First of all its ridiculous to claim the film version of 2m1 is unreleased, since everything you hear in the film there is in the LLL track!Jay, I'm not criticizing the release.I'm just saying what I noticed.And no , I don't think it's ridiculous to claim that it is unreleased, since the insert is not meant to be heard in that spot it is in the La-laland track. (and it is not meant to be heard after a pause either. It mixes somewhere in there when you first hear those choir synths)A cue when is composed has a certain continuation and structure.Now, when you place that insert after the bars it's meant to replace, that structure is affected.Imagine eg. the Raiders March concert version and Williams writing a new love theme meant to replace the love theme that is there.How would be the track, if you add the new love theme and you have 2 love themes in a row?I just picked a more extreme example with themes, so that you could understand my thinking..So, if we ony have a Raiders march with the 2 love themes in a row, the true new version where the new love theme comes right after the raiders march where it was supposed to be, is still unreleased to me...It doens't matter that all the music that was written is still there.Having not heard the cd yet, I assume David's Arrival alternate in the 3rd cd, is with the original opening while the one in cd1 (as shown in your spreadsheet) is with the new opening.Well, they could do the same here, and structure it like this:new opening --> old opening--> rest of the cue.But they didn't.Because it wasn't meant to be heard like this,and it wasn't composed like this.Of course the sense of repeat here, would be much more obvious that it is in 2m1.Still there is 1% chance the insert is in its right placement, but having heard the original thing with the film as I said, it matches.Anyone can check himself if he likes:At 19.04'' in the video below play promo cd2 track 6 from 1.19'' -2.51'' (the rest match anyway). It matches perfectly! (you could use the la-laland track too but I don't have the timecodes in that)https://youtu.be/AQVYmXDXwhw?t=19mNotice the sync points when she touches his neck, when she starts reading the words and when she stops.So, in reality the insert (which is used in the film) replaces 1.19-2.51 in the promo, and doesn't come after that, and the la-laland track just combines both old and new version in one track.Again, I want to stress that I'm not criticizing the release.This was just an observation that doesn't prevent me from enjoying the cds (when I get them)Has anyone ordered from SAE and has it shipped ?Mine still shows pending although ordered within 10 minutes of release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 My copy of the set just arrived! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Mine arrived this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Mine should have arrived today...but it didnt.It's been in madrid since day 21.... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Mine arrived this morning Great. So everyone's received their copy. Except me. Not even a shipping notice. This is just great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 Always order directly from the label releasing the score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Always order directly from the label releasing the score!Yeah, this is probably the last time I've put my trust in SAE..................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Mine arrived this morning Great. So everyone's received their copy. Except me. Not even a shipping notice. This is just great. Don't worry. I'm on the exact same situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Mine arrived this morning Great. So everyone's received their copy. Except me. Not even a shipping notice. This is just great. Don't worry. I'm on the exact same situation. Me too. Last time for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Mine arrived this morning Great. So everyone's received their copy. Except me. Not even a shipping notice. This is just great. Don't worry. I'm on the exact same situation. Me too. Last time for them.I think as it was mentioned earlier, maybe the cd shows up on your door, and your order still says "pending"!I usually get my orders in 10 days from them.3 more days to find out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 In all the madness and grief of today I forgot to add that I've listened to this set this morning. Sadly, in a circumstances like this.And it's mint! Was about to publish my review today... but we decided not to. For obvious reasons.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 Have you (or anyone else) checked out Inky's review?http://www.jwfan.com/?p=7787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Was planning to read it later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I will read it tonight, it just didn't seem like the right time when I saw it this morning.Although listening to A.I. for the first time brought me into a contemplative state that felt very in tune with today's events.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 It's a contemplative score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Mine arrived this morning Great. So everyone's received their copy. Except me. Not even a shipping notice. This is just great. Neither did i, relax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Yeah, this is probably the last time I've put my trust in SAE.....................Your "trust"? How have they broken your "trust"? Give me a break! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Mine is sitting somewhere at customs in Melbourne. What are the chances it just misses arriving before the weekend by a matter of hours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 I love the packaging on this album. The insert and CD art is very tastefully done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Yeah, this is probably the last time I've put my trust in SAE.....................Your "trust"? How have they broken your "trust"? Give me a break!Uhm, 'trust' that I don't have to wait like 4 weeks to finally get the CD..? Wasn't that clear..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted June 24, 2015 Share Posted June 24, 2015 Here is my Films On Wax review.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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