Popular Post BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 24, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2015 I haven't had any crazy theories for a while, so here we go. ...I'm listening to the Scavenger, and the rhythmic piano section of Rey's theme (starts at 1:03) sounds eerily similar to the Emperor's Theme. Sort of like Anakin's Theme was a bright and cheery version of Darth Vader's theme? Is the Skywalker gone bad, and the Palpatine gone good this time? Is this why Luke gives Rey the death stare at the end?! Sandor, JWMike and Bellosh 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 She's not old enough for that. Next! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 I don't notice the similarities between the themes. In any case, the timeline doesn't work. The Emperor was killed 30 years ago and Rey is presumable in her early 20s. Unless his spirit conceived her at some point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 The movie hasn't even been out a fortnight and we've a,ready reached silly season with rumours. The next 18 months will be painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 She is the corporeal manifestation of the Light Side of the Force. Brought forth to restore the balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 11 minutes ago, Stefancos said: She is the corporeal manifestation of the Light Side of the Force. Brought forth to restore the balance. Benjamin Sisko, sent by The Prophets to save the godforsaken Galaxy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Yes!! Finally that crossover! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 She is literally a Rey of light. Though I read that the Emperor froze his sperm in the Dark Side Fertility Centre in the Republic and Rey was born from a woman who used it. Apparently for the last 30 years a few kids have been born from his donation, and the republic have been sending constant unanswered demands for child support payments, so the First Order destroyed the Republic to stop them. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 2 hours ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: The next 18 months will be painful. 17 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 That's as ridiculous as Kylo being Luke with a mask (which people believed of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 3 hours ago, leeallen01 said: She is literally a Rey of light. Though I read that the Emperor froze his sperm in the Dark Side Fertility Centre in the Republic and Rey was born from a woman who used it. Apparently for the last 30 years a few kids have been born from his donation, and the republic have been sending constant unanswered demands for child support payments, so the First Order destroyed the Republic to stop them. What visual stimuli did the Imperial Sperm Bank provide to its dear leader in his private room at the clinic to ensure he was properly aroused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 If Rey is Palpy's daughter, it would suggest either there are more offspring around or he cloned himself like in the comics and he's in hiding. Neither option is likely because they both present a threat to Snoke and his apprentice, and they are currently running the Force show in the galaxy, only worrying about Luke. I still think Rey was brainwashed by Jedi, and the Force awakened in her when it felt she was needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perdogg 1 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: She's not old enough for that. Next! She could have died as a child and became a Ghola on Ix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 That's certainly plausible, considering the mindfuck Kylo tried to give her. Sex is needed to awaken dormant ghola memories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perdogg 1 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 4 hours ago, Lhokne Mulb said: I haven't had any crazy theories for a while, so here we go. ...I'm listening to the Scavenger, and the rhythmic piano section of Rey's theme (starts at 1:03) sounds eerily similar to the Emperor's Theme. Sort of like Anakin's Theme was a bright and cheery version of Darth Vader's theme? Is the Skywalker gone bad, and the Palpatine gone good this time? Is this why Luke gives Rey the death stare at the end?! I think you have a point, but it could also be a reflection on her heredity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 12 hours ago, Drax said: What visual stimuli did the Imperial Sperm Bank provide to its dear leader in his private room at the clinic to ensure he was properly aroused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I'll be in my room! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Even if Rey was intended to be Palpatine's daughter, I don't think Williams would hint at that in the music. Definitely a very silly theory! 1977 and A. A. Ron 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Forget it, LeBlanc. It's Lokshne Blum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Remember the old theory that Palpy was Anakin's father? If that and this were true, Anakin and Rey would be brother and sister. Starting to sound like an ep of B&B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 I hope so. Star Wars wouldn't be great if if wasn't one big happy family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted December 25, 2015 Share Posted December 25, 2015 If you rearrange the letters of Rey, you get Eyr, which is an old way of saying Air. When Salacious Crumb used to laugh, it would sound like he was saying "air air air air air air air" thus confirming that Rey is Salacious Crumb reincarnated. YODA - "In your solitude on Tatooine, training I have for you." JABBA - "Tawa dah beeka umbah (Training?)" YODA - "An old friend has learned the path to immortality. One who has returned from the netherworld of the Force. Your old Jester." JABBA - "Salacious!" crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perdogg 1 Posted December 26, 2015 Share Posted December 26, 2015 On 12/24/2015 at 4:41 PM, Lhokne Mulb said: I haven't had any crazy theories for a while, so here we go. ...I'm listening to the Scavenger, and the rhythmic piano section of Rey's theme (starts at 1:03) sounds eerily similar to the Emperor's Theme. Sort of like Anakin's Theme was a bright and cheery version of Darth Vader's theme? Is the Skywalker gone bad, and the Palpatine gone good this time? Is this why Luke gives Rey the death stare at the end?! Actually if you listen to the last track (#23 The Jedi Steps and Finale between 1:03 and 1:11) you hear part of the Imperial March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bowie 45 Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Could be his granddaughter. Or Snoke's great great granddaughter. Or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 219 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 On 12/24/2015 at 5:06 PM, leeallen01 said: She is literally a Rey of light. Though I read that the Emperor froze his sperm in the Dark Side Fertility Centre in the Republic and Rey was born from a woman who used it. Apparently for the last 30 years a few kids have been born from his donation, and the republic have been sending constant unanswered demands for child support payments, so the First Order destroyed the Republic to stop them. The BoysGirl from BrazilNaboo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 A Rey for the 1980s, 1990s... 2000s!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JWMike 117 Posted December 24, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted December 24, 2019 Interesting thread to look back on! Bellosh, Will, Luka and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I had somehow completely forgotten that Blume had already pointed out that Rey's theme contains elements of the Emperor's theme, 4 years before Mattris did. Funny. SteveMc and BLUMENKOHL 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Anthem of evil keeps reminding me of the opening of Rey's theme. Could they had told Williams who she was? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I doubt there was anything to tell: the only concept in the film that strikes me as though it could have been in Abrams' mind during preproduction on The Force Awakens was that of a Force Dyad (i.e. Rey and Kylo balacing each other in The Force). The idea that Rey is a Palpatine doesn't come off as planned. Besides, I doubt Williams would have cared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 It was obviously planned from the beginning and JW spoiled the connection before TFA was even released in theaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Jay said: I had somehow completely forgotten that Blume had already pointed out that Rey's theme contains elements of the Emperor's theme, 4 years before Mattris did. Funny. I think it also had been pointed out at the time by David Collins on his old Oxygen podcast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMike 117 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I came across the above on youtube where this video from 2017 makes an interesting case for Rey being a Palpatine. When it came to the bit about the music I wondered if/when anyone from here had talked about the connections between the themes and was pleased to find this thread! It does of course seem to be unlikely that Williams was given pre-emptive knowledge of Rey's heritage before he wrote her theme, although it would be interesting to get a definitive answer from the man himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 What it demonstrates is that Mattris got one over the whole forum, completely. Good on him. He outwitted every Star Wars fan on this site. Game set and match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Wait are we all pretending now that Rey's Theme hints at the Emperor's Theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 Remember back in 2015 when you all were taking about the minor third interval that was very present in the TFA score? That also probably hinted at the Palpatine theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 1 hour ago, Quintus said: What it demonstrates is that Mattris got one over the whole forum, completely. Good on him. He outwitted every Star Wars fan on this site. Game set and match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Connecting Rey to Palpy was a terrible idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 1,120 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Nick Parker said: Wait are we all pretending now that Rey's Theme hints at the Emperor's Theme? No, no. That would be ridiculous. More plausible is the rising minor 3rd in both Rey's theme and the melody to the Jawa's music, which must mean that Rey is actually part Jawa. This would neatly explain why she was into selling old metal things on a desert planet in TFA. I mean, come on. It's completely obvious. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 I knew I remembered Blume noticing this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 They don’t call me The Maestro’s Shrunk for nuthin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 Rey Palpatine. That’s rudiculous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 25, 2019 Author Share Posted December 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Bespin said: Rey Palpatine. That’s rudiculous! Rey Skywalker. It’s a very beautiful moment because the last Palpatine has extinguished the entire Skywalker family line and now moves into their house, starts wearing their clothes, eating their food, and using their name due to their high social credit score. Bespin, A. A. Ron and _deleted_ 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 I know, I know I was joking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_deleted_ 203 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 On 12/25/2015 at 5:41 AM, Blumenkohl said: ...I'm listening to the Scavenger, and the rhythmic piano section of Rey's theme (starts at 1:03) sounds eerily similar to the Emperor's Theme. Back in 2015, I was like: hmmm the emperor’s theme reappropriated for a new hero??? This is not the Star Wars I’m looking for! Is she related to old Palps??? After Tros: Okay fine so she’s somebody now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 25, 2019 Share Posted December 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Blumenkohl said: Rey Skywalker. It’s a very beautiful moment because the last Palpatine has extinguished the entire Skywalker family line and now moves into their house, starts wearing their clothes, eating their food, and using their name due to their high social credit score. Bloody Scavenger! _deleted_, BLUMENKOHL and crumbs 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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