gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I zoned out 20 minutes into the soundtrack. As usual with Giacchino, starts strong, ends strong, and plods along in streamlined boredom in between. Desert Chase reference was neat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 More like Jurassic World: Fallen Asleep gkgyver and JoeinAR 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I much prefer the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 I agree the beginning and end is best, and the middle sags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Wow, the way the brass was recorded (and played) completely blew my mind. It's very much LOTR-esque ( it feels like the brass was recorded inside a huge spacious hall) and brass in LOTR is the ONLY great example (imo) of how the brass should be handled, ... especially in track "Go With the Pyroclastic Flow", at these marks: 00:00 - 00:14 & 1:01 - 1:15 (the arrangement of the fallen kingdom theme here reminds me of Mount Doom motif in LOTR) 1:39 - 1:55 (reminds me of some of the brass play in Shelob cues) 2:07 - 2:15 ( my favourite bit. it really reminds me of the Orc motif) 2:59 - 3:08 3:12 - 3:25 ( the brass counterplay, it screams Orc!) Kudos to Giacchino and team here! EDIT: Well i just realized, this music plays on the volcano eruption scene, so the Mt.Doom connection is not so irrelevant afterall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Yea, the brass really sounds great! It does not ever sound LOTR-esque to me, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 ^^ welll.....yeah it does! the shelob bit (6:03 - 6:22) The orc bit (1:44 - 2:23) Nothing will beat LOTR though in term of its brass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 No Lost World quotes this time then? Too bad... I had kind-of been hoping for some more of that, since the film seems more inspired by Lost World this time around... 5 hours ago, gkgyver said: Desert Chase reference was neat. What? Where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 11 hours ago, gkgyver said: Desert Chase reference was neat. 6 hours ago, Pieter_Boelen said: What? Where? 2:06 of Raptor Your Heart Out from the first score Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 17 minutes ago, Jay said: 2:06 of Raptor Your Heart Out from the first score Ah, I forgot to specify which Lost World. I meant the Williams one, but any reference to either of them is always welcome. I had hoped for at least one more in Fallen Kingdom... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 The middle has some of my favorite parts actually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 15 minutes ago, Pieter_Boelen said: Ah, I forgot to specify which Lost World. I meant the Williams one, but any reference to either of them is always welcome. I had hoped for at least one more in Fallen Kingdom... What? I was answering your question about where the Desert Chase reference was. It's at 2:06 of Raptor Your Heart Out. There are no The Lost World references on the Fallen Kingdom OST album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Unless you count the jungle drums throughout. I kid, but I love that kind of stuff and am really happy to hear it in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Declaration of Indo-Pendence is easily my favorite action track of the year after the best Solo ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 The action music in this is definitely much stronger than usual for Giacchino, though I've felt no reason to compare it to Solo. What I anticipated with a John Powell Star Wars score is a very different expectation than what I ask for in a fun Jurassic score, and both have made me very happy for different reasons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuhrsy31 18 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Jay said: Declaration of Indo-Pendence is easily my favorite action track of the year after the best Solo ones This is totally influenced from "the raptors appear" from the lost world soundtrack! Awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Jay said: What? I was answering your question about where the Desert Chase reference was. It's at 2:06 of Raptor Your Heart Out. Now I'm REALLY confused. Raptor Your Heart Out is from the first Jurassic World, right? And we're talking about a reference to the Desert Chase from Indiana Jones? I only hear a reference to Giacchino's own Raptor Theme from his Lost World game score there (heard in The Forest Explodes), which I thought was what you meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Not sure how you're so confused. Does this help? On 6/12/2015 at 5:06 PM, leeallen01 said: At 2:06 in Raptor Your Heart Out, it does share similarities to a few moments in the Desert Chase sequence. I hear no direct quotes, but tiny moments at 1:57 and 2:06 do remind me heavily of Williamsisms. On 6/13/2015 at 11:56 PM, peter.anschutz said: I just came back from seeing Jurassic World, and I wanted to chime in on a mini discussion that occurred a few pages ago. I think there is indeed a musical reference to the truck chase scene and "Desert Chase" track of Raiders of the Lost Ark during the truck/raptor chase scene in this film. The scene in Jurassic World is almost certainly a homage to Raiders, just one of several homages to non-Jurassic Park films contained in JW. The musical reference occurs in "Raptor Your Heart Out" at 2:06-2:11, and corresponds to 2:22-2:32 of "Desert Chase." The onscreen action in JW is basically the same as what happens in Raiders, except Claire replaces Indy and the raptors replace the Nazis. Just as Indy forces the Nazis driving beside the truck into the trees, Claire does the same with the raptors running alongside her truck. I think the musical reference occurs specifically during the shot of the raptor in the side-view mirror, which is the same shot in Raiders. I have to assume the musical reference is intended to further invoke that scene from Raiders. On 6/14/2015 at 12:09 AM, Jay said: Hmmm so around 2:40 in this video then On 6/14/2015 at 12:22 AM, peter.anschutz said: I'd actually say 3:55-4:05 is the closest parallel to Jurassic World/Raiders scene and score. On 6/14/2015 at 12:26 AM, Jay said: Yea, I forgot that horn rip played twice On 6/14/2015 at 6:19 AM, leeallen01 said: I did mention this exact thing and the exact time stamps of the brass riffs about 2 days ago. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I think it's much better than the first one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I haven't finished, but it is at least interesting. But I can't be the only person who is tired of Giacchino stretching out high brass notes every 3-4 seconds of every action cue to generate excitement? That is basically his one trick. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I'm not impressed by my first listen (and I'm a certified Giacchino fanboy, my wife made my a doll of him!). I know lots of good scores are 'growers', but I felt a stark contrast to Powell's Solo, which leaps forth in its energy, musicality and off-screen storytelling, and had immediate impact on me, as well as being 'a grower'. I am hearing lots of Roar-style monsterisms, lots of Lost-isms, noisy and forceful action music, and not much musical prowess. So far I rate Rogue One higher than this, and he had more to time to score Fallen Kingdom (I assume). However, I can see there's some enjoyment of this score in this thread so I won't give up on this score yet (as I did Ready Player One) and am giving it more listens through. Does anyone have a highlights tracklist to recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Jay said: Not sure how you're so confused. Does this help? Thanks. I listened to all those timestamps though, and the reference remains elusive to me. I suppose I'll just have to live with only hearing the Lost World game theme in that track... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I watched the movie yesterday and it was a lot of fun. Really entertaining. And the score had some really great moments where you could hear it on top of the SFX (unlike what happened with Solo). And the choir was pretty noticeable in a lot of scenes. In the movie there was at least one more queote of the Indominus material at the very beginning, and also a really similar version of the Island Fanfare to the one of the first JW at the end of Cosat Rica Stand-Off. And about the new themes, I think more or less I have figured out what they represent. -Well, there is the Fallen Kingdom that appears a lot in many different scenes, so it's like a new main theme that ties all together. -The twinkly theme I think it's an identity of its own because from what I remeber, in the movie played several times on its own, without the Fallen Kingdom theme. I think it could represent Maisie or maybe it could be a Family Lockwood theme. But from what I remember it also played in some Indo Raptor scenes. But anyway, don't take my word on it because I don't remeber exactly. And the theme has more appearances on the movie than it does on the album, but most of them are really similar to the appearance of the theme in the suite. -The march theme is definetly a theme for Wheatly and his team, like the match from the previous movie was a theme for Hoskins and InGen. -And the quiet theme is a theme for Owen and Blue, that also plays in other scene with more dinosaurs. And I think the suite is more or less the same as the credits from the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 19 hours ago, PrayodiBA said: Wow, the way the brass was recorded (and played) completely blew my mind. It's very much LOTR-esque ( it feels like the brass was recorded inside a huge spacious hall) and brass in LOTR is the ONLY great example (imo) of how the brass should be handled, ... especially in track "Go With the Pyroclastic Flow", at these marks: 00:00 - 00:14 & 1:01 - 1:15 (the arrangement of the fallen kingdom theme here reminds me of Mount Doom motif in LOTR) 1:39 - 1:55 (reminds me of some of the brass play in Shelob cues) 2:07 - 2:15 ( my favourite bit. it really reminds me of the Orc motif) 2:59 - 3:08 3:12 - 3:25 ( the brass counterplay, it screams Orc!) Kudos to Giacchino and team here! EDIT: Well i just realized, this music plays on the volcano eruption scene, so the Mt.Doom connection is not so irrelevant afterall I also had some LOTR vibes throughout this score. Some definite similar flavours in brass writing especially Also I noticed that Giacchino's new Fallen Kingdom theme reminds me of Shore's theme for 'Gandalf the White' during some of the variations he takes. Listen to 1:18 below. That crescendo is SOOO Shore's LOTR. I almost expect it to go into 'Gandalf the White' as he charges with the Rohirrim down the slope towards Helms Deep. And listen to the choir at 1:00 - 1:15. It screams Shore's Dwarvish Choir. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Yes, I can hear the Shore vibes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I kinda wish Williams would utilise choir this predominantly in a score, just once more in his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I really wouldnt mind if any composers imitated LOTR, foremost and especially for the brass. If you got to steal, at least stole it from the very best. What a prime week for film music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 I received it today, forgot I had it on pre-order and forgot to cancel. But hey, I'll keep it for completeness sake. As before, it is a digipack. But then, that's not a surprise given that all the Back Lot Music releases are. Front of the booklet has a more traditional JP design. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Nice! I prefer that cover slot more. So the bonus tracks are not included inside other tracks right? Oh wait...the Digipack has the cover with the gyrospere attack..and the booklet has the traditional cover...damn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 16 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said: Nice! I prefer that cover slot more. So the bonus tracks are not included inside other tracks right? Oh wait...the Digipack has the cover with the gyrospere attack..and the booklet has the traditional cover...damn. No, they are not included. In all honesty, the CD clocks at around 76 minutes without them anyway. And yes, it is the booklet front cover that I posted. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Tower Records in Dublin didn’t have it in stock today. They never got Jurassic World in either. Weird. They generally get Gia scores but not the Jurassics apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 They have a decent selection of soundtrack vinyls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 6 minutes ago, Stefancos said: They have a decent selection of soundtrack vinyls. They do but they’re a bit pricey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 3 hours ago, PrayodiBA said: I really wouldnt mind if any composers imitated LOTR, foremost and especially for the brass. If you got to steal, at least stole it from the very best. A skin of Shore does not make up for a Giacchino pulp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 33 minutes ago, Bilbo said: Tower Records in Dublin didn’t have it in stock today. They never got Jurassic World in either. Weird. They generally get Gia scores but not the Jurassics apparently. I don't think the regular stores will keep those. I don't think Back Lot Music stuff gets here. HMV don't list those at all. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 Just now, crocodile said: I don't think the regular stores will keep those. I don't think Back Lot Music stuff gets here. HMV don't list those at all. Karol I’ll just pick it up online! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 My laptop strangely reads the disc as being 76 minutes. I don't know if my computer's wrong or not, but perhaps the two extra cues wouldn't have been able to fit after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Bilbo said: Tower Records in Dublin didn’t have it in stock today. They never got Jurassic World in either. Weird. They generally get Gia scores but not the Jurassics apparently. Wait, Tower Records still exists??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 First proper listen, and have now identified the memorised his new main theme. I'm liking it enough that I just added it to my Amazon basket. Maisie and the Island is particularly beautiful and I'm hearing some Lost in track 2. I have no problems with Giacchino continuing with JP Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 On 15. Juni 2018 at 9:36 PM, Jay said: 2:06 of Raptor Your Heart Out from the first score No, actually. I meant "Raiders Of the Lost Isla Nublar". Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Whatta cue! Whatta cue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Had my 3rd and 4th listen through. Really liking this as much as his JW. lovely, strong, gothic themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 I wish he had gotten this awesome orchestra and recording for JW. Ah well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 oof this is a snooze-fest. 2 duds in a row. this and Incredibles 2 Breadstick Basilisk, Arpy and JoeinAR 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, Fargo said: 2 duds in a row. this and Incredibles 2 Incredibles 2 was hardly a "dud". Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, John said: Incredibles 2 was hardly a "dud". it was a big, wet fart of a score. sad! JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Fargo said: oof this is a snooze-fest. 2 duds in a row. this and Incredibles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 One of these days, when I'm bored enough, I'll photoshop the soundtrack cover of a Michael Giacchino score and replace the credit with "Music by John Williams", then send it to someone particularly naive. Truth be told, I'd say both Powell and Giacchino gave Williams a run for his money this year. Bilbo and Giftheck 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 20, 2018 Share Posted June 20, 2018 We have tickets for 10:10 am to giacchinos latest noise! Gia never gives John a run for his money and powell did only by using so much of John's music! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Okay, so the album is now out. You can confirm the album contains parts of the JW themes? I will add it to my discography EDIT: Ok, I just saw Jay's post. Added! http://www.goplanete.com/johnwilliams/music/composer/themes.htm Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom [Original Motion Picture Soundtrack] (2018, Backlot Music, BLM0725) Music Composed by Michael Giacchino, Original Jurassic Park Themes by John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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