Popular Post Giftheck 917 Posted August 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2017 Hello There: A Star Wars Story Will, fommes and Simon McBride 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted August 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2017 As Giacchino will replace x composer here are a few (terrible) pun cue titles I could muster: Obi-wan and wan for all! Obi-have Ben There, Done That Luke-ing for Trouble Galaxy's Worst Space-Port James, DarthDementous, Giftheck and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2017 1 hour ago, BloodBoal said: Obi One: A Star Wars Story Rogue Wan: A Star Wars Story Arpy, Fancyarcher, Will and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 as far as the initial spin-off ideas went this was always one that I hoped would be made, so its nice to hear talks of it at least. I would say what you perceive as acting faults of Ewan McGregor in the Prequels was entirely the script's fault, and I have to commend Ewan for doing as much as he could with the horrendously weird and stilted dialogue. he's definitely one of the most memorable parts of them (not including Episode 1 where his character comes off as whiny and boring), and a lot of that may be down to his delivery. as much as the scene between him and Anakin burning on Mustafar feels unearned in terms of emotional investment, I can't help but feel real emotion at Ewan's performance of the line 'you were my brother Anakin, I loved you.' so the thought of a story about a character that I thoroughly enjoy possibly centred on one of the most interesting points of his life, the transition from someone staunchly apart of the Jedi Order to a renegade survivor of Order 66 that is called to a higher purpose - is a very interesting prospect. much more so than 'member Han Solo, member the Millennium Falcon, see how he got his jacket!' origins that will de-mistify and most likely cheapen the character, and although I like Rogue One the premise as pitched was never very interesting either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 At the end of the day it's all bullshit. It's just which shit is shinier than the other... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I hope they just call it Obi Wan Kenobi so the sequel ends up sounding like a football score. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Obi Two? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2017 Obi1 followed by: Ta2ine Arpy, Will and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted August 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2017 OB1 Kemoji I'm more interested in the prospect of this than a Han Solo movie, but I'd still prefer more side stories like Rogue One that focus on new characters' adventures. Of course, if they ARE going to do an Obi-Wan movie, strike while Ewan is willing and able. One less recast. Bilbo, crumbs and James 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 McGregor had zero charisma as Obi Wan, so I say cast an unknown. Oh and don't call it "Obi Wan: A Star Wars Story". That'd be awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 I don't think an Obi Wan story is necessary. He's already been in 6 films. I'm ready for standalone films unrelated to the other films and existing characters. Even in Rogue One, they had to shoehorn Leia and Tarkin. It's time for Disney to create new iconic characters! No surprise they're playing it safe, though. TFA set that standard and I expect TLJ to still be within the safe boundary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 How about Gentile Ben? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Quintus said: McGregor had zero charisma as Obi Wan, so I say cast an unknown. Oh and don't call it "Obi Wan: A Star Wars Story". That'd be awful I think Ewan had charisma enough as Obi-Wan - especially in the bits where his character was supposed to be humorous or playful. "Supposed to" being key words - Lucas' scripts and green screens couldn't be helped, and they sucked the life out of Oscar winners and nominees (Liam Neeson, Natalie Portman, Samuel L. Jackson), excellent character actors (Ian McDiarmid, Christopher Lee), and others who succeeded in other films (Jake Lloyd, Hayden Christensen). Everyone! Give him something to work with, and we'll see. I think the only way someone else would be Obi-Wan is if Ewan refuses. DarthDementous and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, Quintus said: McGregor had zero charisma as Obi Wan, so I say cast an unknown. Oh and don't call it "Obi Wan: A Star Wars Story". That'd be awful I just went with the most basic title that would inform everyone what this thread is until we get confirmation of a real title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 That's a relief then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Old Ben or just Ben Kenobi mightn't be too bad. Presumably this film will deal deal with him ceasing to be Obi-Wan Kenobi: Jedi Knight and becoming Old Ben Kenobi: Crazy Old Wizard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The kid was really happy with this news (he doesn't really care about the Han Solo movie) and he hopes that Ewan gets the part. 6 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: Old Ben or just Ben Kenobi mightn't be too bad. Presumably this film will deal deal with him ceasing to be Obi-Wan Kenobi: Jedi Knight and becoming Old Ben Kenobi: Crazy Old Wizard A whole movie about Ben Kenobi in the desert of Tatooine ... Matt Damon is Obi Wan Kenobi A story about survival and solitude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted August 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2017 11 hours ago, Holko said: I thought Desplat was out because the pickups took longer than expected and he couldn't fit it into his schedule anymore. Officially, yes. But that "we ran out of time" explanation seems to be a Lucasfilm stock explanation for when break-ups happen (it was used with Michael Arndt as well despite indications of behind-the-scenes drama, reportedly even including Abrams threatening to quit over Arndt's script). More importantly, there's this French report: http://www.lepoint.fr/pop-culture/cinema/star-wars-rogue-one-ce-que-cache-le-depart-brutal-d-alexandre-desplat-16-09-2016-2068991_2923.php Translation: Quote Just one month ago, AD declined the offer to work on a French feature movie alluding to his full-time immersion in the project Rogue One. His involvment seemed total, and nothing would let you think that he would leave the project. "In the middle of a working dinner, he would not stop leaving the table to answer to calls coming from Disney from Los Angeles. It was a huge pressure", confides a source close to the case. Desplat's departure seems all the more abrupt and betrays great turmoil backstage: "On a Star Wars, you just don't change composer three months before the film opens with a snap of fingers, it's unbelievable! Complex contracts were binding both parties ... Either Disney fired him, or he is throwing in the towel because he had enough and does not understand what Disney wants, but there was surely some clash." Some rumors, here also insistent, show a shift in Rogue One toward a more "light" tone. This would explain the fatigue of the composer, forced to readjust everything at the last minute. "Writing the score, recording, booking a symphony orchestra ... all this takes time. It is impossible to redo everything from scratch!" they tell us. "Disney is bound to keep some of Desplat's score, he has been working on this project for more than a year, I do not see how they could do otherwise. In any case, it is a huge surprise and they must be very, very late. It would not surprise me if some heads would eventually fall. It smells like a little sabotage. I find it hard to believe that after spending so much time working on the score Desplat would have simply said, "Bye, I have a different project to do," unless there was some major frustration on either or both sides. If he wanted to continue and Lucasfilm wanted him to continue, there had to had to have been a way to make his schedule work. Cerebral Cortex, John, Holko and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 Michael Arndt's script probabky wasn't mediocre enough for JJ. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted August 18, 2017 Share Posted August 18, 2017 The author hints at the pressure on making Giacchino the direct successor to Williams as one of the reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 16 hours ago, Quintus said: McGregor had zero charisma as Obi Wan, so I say cast an unknown. I think a lot of people will disagree and chalk that down to George Lucas' awful writing and directing style. After all, he managed to make Samuel L. Jackson boring. Give him a decent script and a good director and I think he'll do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,554 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 On 17/08/2017 at 9:30 PM, Richard said: (softly, resignedly) geez, not another one? On 18/08/2017 at 6:33 AM, Alexcremers said: It hasn't even started yet. It's this greedy, avaricious asset-stripping of a unique property, that gets me. The Mouse will continue to royally bugger STAR WARS until it has absolutely nothing left offer, and then it will vomit up what it's already foisted upon the world, in the form of reboots, repackages, and "re-imaginings". It's a horrible, cynical, insulting way to extract money from people, and the thing is that no-one will notice that it's being done. They'll worship at Disney's feet, handing over cash, to a rancid organisation, that has no integrity, and has done nothing to deserve it, while they starve. Fuck that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 1 hour ago, Gistech said: I think a lot of people will disagree and chalk that down to George Lucas' awful writing and directing style. After all, he managed to make Samuel L. Jackson boring. Give him a decent script and a good director and I think he'll do well. You're possibly right and I've suggested the same thing myself in the past, but for me McGregor would only be a reminder of that woeful trilogy's existence and continued acknowledgement of it being canon. Not that it matters, as I think they'll go for someone younger and hotter than McGregor currently is anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 McDiarmid and McGregor were the two strongest actors in the Prequels. Just now, Richard said: It's this greedy, avaricious asset,-stripping of a unique property, that gets me. The Mouse will continue to royally bugger STAR WARS until it has absolutely nothing left offer, and then it will vomit up what it's already foisted upon the world, in the form of reboots, repackages, and "re-imaginings". It's a horrible, cynical, insulting way to extract money from people, and the thing is that no-one will notice that it's being done. I think if any material I'd give Disney props for going ahead with, devoid of the kind of studio cash-cow sentiments I think we can often level at them, I think this story warrants the exposure because in the expanded universe it was always an intriguing part of the intervening years between ROTS and ANH. What was he up to? What did he do? Was he losing his mind? Whether Disney can match that with a pure, genuine want to make a film around the story is always going to be doubtful, and I think the Han Solo film will be indicative going forward... DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,554 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 I'll tell you what he did in between ROTS, and ANH: he lived on Tattooine, communed with Qui Gon, watched over Luke, and turned into Alec Guinness. Not much going on, there. Those Disney boys is pickin' gnat shit outta pepper. A24 and James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 No! He went on endless intergalactic adventures, fought wars and came to be friends with the man who fathered Lando Calrissian (plot twist). Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 He revisited the outer-rim of Jabba's Hut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 31 minutes ago, Richard said: It's this greedy, avaricious asset-stripping of a unique property, that gets me. The Mouse will continue to royally bugger STAR WARS until it has absolutely nothing left offer, and then it will vomit up what it's already foisted upon the world, in the form of reboots, repackages, and "re-imaginings". It's a horrible, cynical, insulting way to extract money from people, and the thing is that no-one will notice that it's being done. They'll worship at Disney's feet, handing over cash, to a rancid organisation, that has no integrity, and has done nothing to deserve it, while they starve. Fuck that. lol. "Disney extracting money from people". lol OK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 These films are a spectacle that people by the numbers flock to. Disney doesn't even have to try to hook people into new ventures of worn-out, creatively devoid franchises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 McGregor has been cast after all and the title is revealed: Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/19/2017 at 4:38 AM, Quintus said: Not that it matters, as I think they'll go for someone younger and hotter than McGregor currently is anyway. I don't see how they could do this if the movie is supposed to take place between Episodes III and IV. If anything they might need to cast older than McGregor, depending on if the story is taking place closer to III or closer to IV. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 My sources tell me the working title is Beyond the Dune Sea: A Star Wars Story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 A Star Wars story stuck on one planet isn't much of a Star Wars story. The story vehicle would work better as a flashback, but who would Obi-wan be talking to about it and when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Nick1066 said: My sources tell me the working title is Beyond the Dune Sea: A Star Wars Story THE SPICE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 On 8/17/2017 at 8:22 PM, Will said: I kind of doubt Desplat will do it ... because Lucasfilm probably won't want him back! Why would you bring back someone who didn't give you what you wanted last time? This. Desplat isn't scoring a Star Wars film anytime soon. On 8/18/2017 at 11:02 AM, Quintus said: McGregor had zero charisma as Obi Wan, so I say cast an unknown. Oh and don't call it "Obi Wan: A Star Wars Story". That'd be awful The whole A Star Wars Story spin-off series reminds me a lot of Batman v Superman in that they aren't films born out of some great storytelling ideas, but just cash grabs. Has there ever been a film before now where it's so far into production and marketing yet still doesn't have a fucking title? Untitled Han Solo Film is up on marquis and everything, just like how BvS was just Untitled Batman-Superman Film for the longest time. Eventually they said fuck it and gave it one of the worst titles imaginable. I assume the same will happen for these films. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted August 22, 2017 Author Share Posted August 22, 2017 On 8/17/2017 at 4:46 PM, Gistech said: The most important question of the film will undoubtedly be whether he still has the high ground. On 8/18/2017 at 2:09 AM, artguy360 said: Title predictions: These Aren't The Droids He's Looking For: A Star Wars Story High Ground: A Star Wars Story May The Force Be With You: A Star Wars Story On 8/19/2017 at 8:36 AM, Quintus said: McGregor has been cast after all and the title is revealed: Typical! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,844 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 They're gonna go with McGregor and use make up to age him up. Remember the harsh desert sun turns Ian McGregor into Alec Guinness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted August 22, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 22, 2017 Main theme leaked! crocodile, Will, James and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I wrote this in the Episode 9 thread: Episode 9 has to come out after Kenobi. This is so that Ewan McGregor can star as a decently-scripted Obi-Wan in a uniquely-toned ultimate franchise-binding film all about the Force; Obi-Wan's coming to terms with his new role in a changed galaxy; his slow-burning shepherding as he watches a young Luke from a distance, carefully drip-feeding ideas about the Force and working to keep him hidden. All the while he practices his own meditation, learns more from Force-ghost Qui-Gon (Neeson, of course), maybe goes off planet to visit Yoda or research how ancient Jedi turned their own back from the dark side, finding it will all be about family, and realising his path to redemption will be through Luke...leading perhaps closely up to Episode IV from this angle. This will all be so that, in Episode 9, Alec Guiness Force-ghost can help Luke through a final hurdle of rebuilding the Jedi order or whatever the spiritual climax will be. Such a film could link the prequels, originals and spin-offs for a satisfying end to the 'four trilogies'... ...but I doubt they'll be that adventurous. John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 No. The Obi-Wan movie must come out before Episode 9, because it will reveal Obi-Wan had a child, who will be revealed to be one of Rey's parents. greenturnedblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 The Obi-Wan movie won't be out before Episode IX. May 2020 is the earliest we'll see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,716 Posted August 23, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 23, 2017 11 minutes ago, BloodBoal said: No. The Obi-Wan movie must come out before Episode 9, because it will reveal Obi-Wan had a child, who will be revealed to be one of Rey's parents. 3 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: The Obi-Wan movie won't be out before Episode IX. May 2020 is the earliest we'll see it. Think of the shock value of the movie when they reveal Rey's parentage AFTER the new trilogy is over! greenturnedblue, Cerebral Cortex, Muad'Dib and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 The original Obi-Wan (AKA Ben), Sir Alec, knew the drill decades ago. He ultimately resented being in a children's space movie with a guy in a gorilla suit. He recognized their technical achievements and respected Lucas and what he was doing, but saw the films for what they really were, as their creator and composer did. Popcorn movies for children. However, the audience refused to stop obsessively watching them and being weirdos. Now we have generations of Star Weirdos and Disney milking the absolute fuck out of this thing. Star Wars is now serious entertainment with violent Saving Private Ryan-esque battle scenes in place of teddy bears throwing rocks. Unlucky Bastard and Muad'Dib 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted August 23, 2017 Author Share Posted August 23, 2017 Justin's back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 12 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: Star Wars is now serious entertainment with violent Saving Private Ryan-esque battle scenes in place of teddy bears throwing rocks. This is how my sister reacted to Rogue One as well. She complained that she couldn't show it to her 5 year old daughter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 16 minutes ago, Evil-Lyn said: The original Obi-Wan (AKA Ben), Sir Alec, knew the drill decades ago. He ultimately resented being in a children's space movie with a guy in a gorilla suit. He recognized their technical achievements and respected Lucas and what he was doing, but saw the films for what they really were, as their creator and composer did. Popcorn movies for children. However, the audience refused to stop obsessively watching them and being weirdos. Now we have generations of Star Weirdos and Disney milking the absolute fuck out of this thing. Star Wars is now serious entertainment with violent Saving Private Ryan-esque battle scenes in place of teddy bears throwing rocks. SW was never meant to be taken seriously. Just watching the Silver Screen Edition alone has a completely different feel to any other incarnation. It was completely independent from all this universe building, and was rather just a fun little Campbell/Kurosawa/Camelot inspired adventure story. Everything that came afterward you'd think was part of some creepy weirdo kool-aid cult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 I wonder if every Star Wars film made by Disney will receive a PG-13 rating. R1 was a very mild PG-13 film, with relatively bloodless action, while TFA, in my opinion, surely didn't deserve that rating. It could've passed as a somewhat "edgy" PG film. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 23, 2017 Share Posted August 23, 2017 Will they finally ever say "shit" in a SW film? Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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