Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2018 And if so, do you love it? Williams expertly translates a 2+ hour score into a perfect 42 minute album. All the major musical ideas are presented. The pacing of this thing is damn impressive. It doesn't drag for even a second. The sound quality is incredible. Ironic, given that each subsequent reissue was a step down in sound quality. It went from sounding great (OST) to good (Anthology) to poor (RCA Victor). Yet, the OST may be the best-sounding JW score release ever? Dixon Hill, Smaug The Iron, John and 2 others 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,484 Posted February 23, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2018 I never liked it. ALL my favorites cues are not on it! jerlgrain, Jurassic Shark and 1977 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 516 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 The Return of the Jedi OST is the worst Star Wars OST. To mutch concert versions and to few film cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I already wrote that the cue list of this OST was clearly made to be spoiler free, remember it was meant to be the LAST Star Wars. (HA HA HA). All my favorite cues are 100% spoilers! Yoda's Death Final Duel Emperor's Death Darth Vader's Death. The only acceptable minimum for ROTJ, is the program of the Anthology boxset, it's 74 minutes. Disc: 3 1. Return Of The Jedi: Twentieth Century Fox Fanfare With CinemaScope Extension 2. Return Of The Jedi: Main Title - Approaching The Death Star 3. Return Of The Jedi: Han Solo Returns (At The Court Of Jabba The Hutt) 4. Return Of The Jedi: Fight In The Dungeon 5. Return Of The Jedi: The Return Of The Jedi 6. Return Of The Jedi: The Emperor Arrives 7. Return Of The Jedi: The Death Of Yoda 8. Return Of The Jedi: Parade Of The Ewoks 9. Return Of The Jedi: Luke And Leia 10. Return Of The Jedi: The Emperor Confronts Luke 11. Return Of The Jedi: Into The Trap 12. Return Of The Jedi: First Ewok Battle - Fight WithThe Fighters 13. Return Of The Jedi: The Forest Battle 14. Return Of The Jedi: Final Duel - Into The Death Star 15. Return Of The Jedi: The Emperor's Death 16. Return Of The Jedi: Darth Vader's Death 17. Return Of The Jedi: Through The Flames 18. Return Of The Jedi: Leia Breaks The News - Funeral Pyre For A Jedi 19. Return Of The Jedi: Ewok Celebration - Finale PS: If the cue list of the next Star Wars OST (that will come out shortly before the movie itself) contains cues like "Rey's Death", "Ben's Death" & "C-3PO's Death", many people will be disapointed! Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,515 Posted February 23, 2018 Share Posted February 23, 2018 I don't own it (in physical format, anyway). Only the Arista CD. But it's my second favourite score of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I still liked it but there are so many different sides to the score. The ultimate edition can feel choppy at times. Maybe it's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2018 Again, people don't seem to know how to listen to the ROTJ OST properly. You need to approach it like a symphony that merely represents the score's thematic ideas into a broader musical narrative. Think of it as an echo of the film score you know - a part of itself the composer left behind. Jurassic Shark, Gruesome Son of a Bitch, Miguel Andrade and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 Are you saying I can leave the complete chronological score? Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Denise Bryson said: Again, people don't seem to know how to listen to the ROTJ OST properly. You need to approach it like a symphony that merely represents the score's thematic ideas into a broader musical narrative. Think of it as an echo of the film score you know - a part of itself the composer left behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Really I'd given up on RotJ for a long time. The RCA SE was too long and tedious, with atrocious sound quality. So then I got the Arista, which was an improvement, but still failed to win me over. Then I finally bought the OST and was astonished at how well it played - the right length, never overstayed its welcome, never a tedious moment, and paced beautifully. It's now my favourite SW album. Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Philippe Roaché said: Are you saying I can leave the complete chronological score? I can't leave it. I'm listening to the OST already, remember? But I bet I know someone who can. And from his point of view, he just got here too. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 Beautiful album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I own the OST album on CD and enjoy its sound quality but prefer the complete score, or just disc 3 of the 1993 set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 Just who the hell are you? Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 He's Jay T. Blanc. Don't you read Facebook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 5 hours ago, Denise Bryson said: Really I'd given up on RotJ for a long time. The RCA SE was too long and tedious, with atrocious sound quality. So then I got the Arista, which was an improvement, but still failed to win me over. Then I finally bought the OST and was astonished at how well it played - the right length, never overstayed its welcome, never a tedious moment, and paced beautifully. It's now my favourite SW album. Lapti Nek? 3 hours ago, Jay said: I own the OST album on CD and enjoy its sound quality but prefer the complete score, or just disc 3 of the 1993 set. That's what the 2LP program should have looked like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 The only reason I listen to the OST is for the superior sound quality compared to the SE and also maybe for Lapti Nek . But like Bespin, most of my favorite cues aren't on the OST at all... Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Yeah doesn't Lapti Nek sound better on the OST (when compared to the Arista)? Maybe other tracks as well, I don't remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 OST album. LP. Best Williams experience as a kid.Still goosebumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Brundlefly said: Lapti Nek? That's what the 2LP program should have looked like. It's too chronological on the Anthology. Williams would have never released it like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 The ROTJ LP is not a bad selection, especially considering that the album is the result of Lucas' decision of not releasing Williams' originally planned 2LP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Ricard said: The ROTJ LP is not a bad selection, especially considering that the album is the result of Lucas' decision of not releasing Williams' originally planned 2LP. Do we actually know that a 2 LP set was ever planned? As the the OP's question, yes I do own it (Polydor US CD). I love the score but dislike the album presentation. As Bespin said, most of the best cues were not on there. Fortunately, the Gerhardt and Kojian re-recordings added a few welcome unreleased cues to tide us over until the Arista was released in '93. I've tried to imagine what a 2 LP set would have been, complete with intra-track edits and an assembly sequenced for listening enjoyment rather than chronology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 13 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: Do we actually know that a 2 LP set was ever planned? That's a great question. @Ricard or @Jay, are you able to shed some light on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Porkins 53 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 I have both the Polydor (USA) and the RSO (W. German). I always loved the soundtrack but I couldn't wait to hear more of it as a kid. I could never fathom why "The Final Duel" was left off the original soundtrack. Jurassic Shark and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 The RSO logo is so strange. Darth Porkins and Smeltington 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 24, 2018 Author Share Posted February 24, 2018 It's s cow to remind the listener not to be gluttons when it comes to the music. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 Disney should have added 30 minutes of music to the re-release of RotJ, so each score would have been presented with the same amount of music. Fight in the Dungeon 3:38 The Death of Yoda 6:03 Faking the Code 4:10 The Emperor Confronts Luke 3:26 First Ewok Battle/Fight with the Fighters 7:18 Final Duel/Into the Death Star 3:37 Darth Vader's Death 2:31 With alternate names of course and inserted into the program, so that it makes a great listening experience, these tracks are missing for a proper 2LP presentation. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted February 24, 2018 Share Posted February 24, 2018 it's the worst JW ost of all times along with Temple of Doom I think it made me notice unreleased music for the first time Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Bespin 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,550 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 The best thing about the ROTJ OST, is Tim Reamer's cover painting. By saying so little, it says so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Inspite of me having bought the ROTJ soundtrack numerous times over the years (The Anthology, The SE, the digital download) I never bothered to track down the OST. Is the RSO the one to own in regards to sound quality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Yes! It sounds great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 I don't think these kids really care about sound quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 25, 2018 Author Share Posted February 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Richard said: The best thing about the ROTJ OST, is Tim Reamer's cover painting. By saying so little, it says so much. It's a masturbation allegory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 5 hours ago, rough cut said: Inspite of me having bought the ROTJ soundtrack numerous times over the years (The Anthology, The SE, the digital download) I never bothered to track down the OST. Is the RSO the one to own in regards to sound quality? I doubt there's any difference between the Polydor and the RSO pressing of the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Sound quality sound quality sound quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 25, 2018 Share Posted February 25, 2018 Waddya deaf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paul Andrew MacLean 7 Posted March 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2018 Years ago I read a transcript of an event where George Lucas was answering questions from fans, one of whom asked why the return of the Jedi soundtrack was only released as a single LP. "We didn't think there was enough music to warrant a two-record set" came Lucas' reply. In any case, even with one LP, there could have been better use of that single disc's real estate. I'd have been happy to see "Han Solo Returns" excluded in favor of something more listenable (like "Alliance Assembly"). And while I understand that John Williams put effort into the concert arrangements "Luke and Leia" and "Parade of Ewoks" they are adequately quoted in the end title (plus they were recorded by Charles Gerhardt for the RCA album, as well as by Williams for a Boston Pops album soon after anyway). In answer to the original question, I own the Jedi LP, but never bought the CD, since I found the original album such a disappointment. Steve H, Smaug The Iron and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricard 2,245 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 2 hours ago, Paul Andrew MacLean said: Years ago I read a transcript of an event where George Lucas was answering questions from fans, one of whom asked why the return of the Jedi soundtrack was only released as a single LP. "We didn't think there was enough music to warrant a two-record set" came Lucas' reply. Yes, that's the exact quote. That event took place over 30 years ago and the interview was published either in Starlog or the LFL Fan club magazine. Lucas' response made as little sense back then as it does now, and personally I've always translated it as "in 1983 there's no market for a score-only 2LP", despite Williams' original and natural intention of finishing the trilogy as he started it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phbart 609 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 If we own Jedi OST? Of course not! Disney owns it. Dah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Lucas was saying there was too much music in the complete score for a definitive listening experience. I'm sure Williams agreed. The original program is perfection. You all will have another chance to own it very soon. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I only wish there was an expanded Jedi Rocks track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 Of course. I own every JW os album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 Do you have the Japanese release of SpaceCamp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Philippe Roaché said: Do you have the Japanese release of SpaceCamp? Is that the OS soundtrack album? Or the re-release? I said OS album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 24, 2018 Author Share Posted March 24, 2018 It's the original CD release of the OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 That's obsolete and irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 24, 2018 Share Posted March 24, 2018 I find that answer vague and unconvincing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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