Chewy 2,412 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I hope we'll be able to hear Mike talking about how he created those new mixes, they sound fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 God bless Jim Titus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Chewy said: I hope we'll be able to hear Mike talking about how he created those new mixes, they sound fantastic! While the main liner notes are by Jeff Bond, there is a "technical note" page written by Mike that explains the process Like Harry Potter 1, the score was recorded simultaneously to digital and analog, but the digital was only at 44.1khz. So also like Harry Potter 1, he had the analog tapes pulled and used fresh transfers of those. Everything is sourced from that, all performance edits re-created by him, all sequenced and mastered by him in 24/192. The Five Tones, That_Bloke, Chewy and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Ordered (186599) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jay said: While the main liner notes are by Jeff Bond, there is a "technical note" page written by Mike that explains the process Like Harry Potter 1, the score was recorded simultaneously to digital and analog, but the digital was only at 44.1khz. So also like Harry Potter 1, he had the analog tapes pulled and used fresh transfers of those. Everything is sourced from that, all performance edits re-created by him, all sequenced and mastered by him in 192/24. holy shit! My god it HAS to sound incredible bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 17, 2019 I'm glad Williams was a proponent of running analog tapes as the industry was transitioning into the digital age. Some scores weren't as lucky and are locked forever at non-optimal bit rates. Like Back To The Future 2 I believe is something like 24/48 or 24/44.1, even the Lord of the Rings scores are locked forever at 24/48. Every time any HP1 music appeared any where else, commercials, theme parks, etc, it was always those 2001 44.1khz masters until Mike finally made high res versions available as a result of the LLL set. For reference any score recorded these days is recorded at either 24bit or 32bit, and either 96khz, 192khz, or even 384khz! Amer, That_Bloke, Ricard and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,723 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Well naturally ordered! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,158 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Demondm810 said: holy shit! My god it HAS to sound incredible Judging by the samples through my headphones I would say 100% YES! Will definitely be purchasing this tomorrow (pay day). Demondm810 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I love that descending brass when Precrime busts into the house in Pre Crime to the Rescue (Part 2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Well, Back to the Future 2's biggest problem is that it just doesn't sound good at all. At least LoTR sounds spacious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,158 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 16 hours ago, Amer said: I'm just curious is Matessino shying away from his essay /notes this time around? Jeff Bond is another great writer though.... He did say in a previous podcast (don't remember which one) that he doesn't like / care to write liner notes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I could listen to Confronting Lamar all day. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,402 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I ordered THIS! looking FORWARD to IT arriving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I'm glad it says "NOW SHIPPING" and not "SHIPPING WEEK OF___" People who live nearby could go get it at their office in Burbank today, I imagine. Even those of us on the East Coast should have it by Monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 I was in a meeting that ran way late! Ordered only just now (along with Bride of Frankenstein and Monster Squad). Order #186715 My ginormous discounted gift certificate is now, finally, officially depleted. Pour one out y'all. Demondm810 and Dr. Rick 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Disco Stu and JWMike 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 These samples sound aMAYzing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozmo 13 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Ordered! #186739 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 You know what's funny, when I first told Mike how amazing I thought it sounded, he was very modest and tried to downplay that he had done much. I'm glad you all agree with me that it sounds way better! Demondm810 and That_Bloke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 17, 2019 Author Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jay said: You know what's funny, when I first told Mike how amazing I thought it sounded, he was very modest and tried to downplay that he had done much. I'm glad you all agree with me that it sounds way better! Yes! It's not like night and day, but there is definitely more depth, it sounds fuller to my ears. Even comparing compressed formats. Just compare this: (3:29) To this: https://johndadlez.com/MP3/MinorityReport/D1_T24_LC_TC.mp3 The OST mix is noticeably thinner sounding to me, especially in the very loud parts toward the end of the segment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 727 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 26 minutes ago, Jay said: People who live nearby could go get it at their office in Burbank today, I imagine. Even those of us on the East Coast should have it by Monday Is that right? I tried to do this for HP but they told me the units were shipping from a warehouse somewhere. (I was in LA that week.) Hoping mine goes out today and makes it to Kirkland WA by Saturday in any case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 People have posted stories before of picking things up at their office on release day ( @Gruesome Son of a Bitch did it with the JP box set IIRC) but I don't know if it's necessarily always an option or anything. I've been to their office a handful of times, but never on a new release day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittBash 283 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jay said: You know what's funny, when I first told Mike how amazing I thought it sounded, he was very modest and tried to downplay that he had done much. I'm glad you all agree with me that it sounds way better! Maybe not night and day but wow as soon as I turned on the clips I was hit by how much "deeper" the sound was... if that makes sense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Makes total sense yes. The session leak was too dry and super compressed, the OST was mastered kinda weird, the new mix is perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,367 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I usually have had to wait until several days after folks in the EU got their LLL orders before mine arrived. I mean, that’s fantastic for them and speaks well to the efficiency of the postal services on two continents, but I live in the same freakin’ state as LLL! But this time, I ordered within two minutes of the noon hour, so I feel good about my chances of seeing something in my mailbox by next week. 👍🏻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,224 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Ordered at exactly 3 PM EST. #186479. Order status changed from Awaiting Fulfillment to Awaiting Shipment within the hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 BTW how sweet is that segue from Don't Run John into Anderton's Escape in the Anderton Escapes sample? Demondm810 and MrJosh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrJosh 892 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Ordered, 186473. Wow, I just listened to the first sample and yes...sounds fantastic! Separation of instruments is great, has a real punch to it, wonderful clarity and as others have said, the 'space' sounds much better. Sounds more like I'm in a room with an orchestra in front of me. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,224 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 I cannot wait to have this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: I think it sounds much better than the OST, personally That's what I wanted to hear! Fantastic, just absolutely awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,224 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jay said: BTW how sweet is that segue from Don't Run John into Anderton's Escape in the Anderton Escapes sample? AWESOME! The samples sound incredible. I definitely notice that the Maestro's music has been remastered compared with the original soundtrack album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 To all of you who are noticing a big improvement from OST to LLL for this release, did you notice a similar difference with A.I. Artificial Intelligence too, or no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jay said: To all of you who are noticing a big improvement from OST to LLL for this release, did you notice a similar difference with A.I. Artificial Intelligence too, or no? Very slight improvement in the case of A.I. I didn't notice a big improvement there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,442 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 With great pleasure, I ordered this CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,224 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 10 minutes ago, Jay said: To all of you who are noticing a big improvement from OST to LLL for this release, did you notice a similar difference with A.I. Artificial Intelligence too, or no? Of course; definitely noticed an improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,402 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 17 minutes ago, Jay said: BTW how sweet is that segue from Don't Run John into Anderton's Escape in the Anderton Escapes sample? I was struck more by the fact that the drums from the album were'nt there (obviously on the bonus tracks version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 The drum kit and electronics overlay wasn't in the film itself, so I'm glad its not the version used in the main program. And the bonus track version has more to it than meets the eye! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,224 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 23 hours ago, Jay said: The drum kit and electronics overlay wasn't in the film itself, so I'm glad its not the version used in the main program. And the bonus track version has more to it than meets the eye! Actually, it was utilized in the film. I actually prefer the piece without the overlay; I like both versions though. More to the alternate segment? I cannot wait to hear the whole piece! I cannot wait to hear the whole score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,364 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Is the track 'Minority Report' on disc 2 (which I assume if the same as the OST track) an edit of film cues or a separate recording specific for the end credits? I've never bothered to compare everything in the suite with the respective film cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 New recording for the end credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Jay said: The drum kit and electronics overlay wasn't in the film itself, so I'm glad its not the version used in the main program. And the bonus track version has more to it than meets the eye! #186924 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Jay said: You know what's funny, when I first told Mike how amazing I thought it sounded, he was very modest and tried to downplay that he had done much. I'm glad you all agree with me that it sounds way better! Oh it ain't even CLOSE. And this is just streaming samples. The clarity of the woodwinds and strings on Anderton Escapes is wild. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 And mine shipped!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Jay said: The drum kit and electronics overlay wasn't in the film itself, so I'm glad its not the version used in the main program. Having not seen the film in so long, I wasn't aware. Wasn't a big fan of the obviously electronic percussion, whatever the point of it was. I'll be glad to have the fixed impression I've had of the score for so long based on a not great OST presentation be corrected. Samples sound great, can't wait for my set which has now shipped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,468 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I think the overlay is a bit over the top too, and I think Spielberg was wise to not use it in the film. It's fun on its own as kind of an spruced up album experience though. Like I'd put that version on a compilation of Williams action tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,367 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, Demondm810 said: And mine shipped!!!!! Mine too! I’m thrilled! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,136 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 The samples are very good! Obviously with Matessino it's going to sound amazing. I was very, very pleased with A.I. It sounded more fuller with depth and the solo vocals recorded at Royce Hall sounded incredible on that recording. I only got around to listen to A.I. this year even though I had bought it the same month of its release. The new presentation, arrangement has a wonderful narrative flow to it and as listening experience it was quite riveting.The sound quality on that was a massive improvement over the original cd and even the DVD-Audio edition. I'am sure with MR it would be similar. Looking forward to this grand release in coming weeks. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Five Tones 302 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: It's fun on its own as kind of an spruced up album experience though. Like I'd put that version on a compilation of Williams action tracks. Yeah, I was thinking I'd keep the OST at least for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 387 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 6 hours ago, Jay said: The drum kit and electronics overlay wasn't in the film itself, so I'm glad its not the version used in the main program. And the bonus track version has more to it than meets the eye! Small correction: percussion is heard in the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,073 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Ordered, along with Rosewood. Demondm810 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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