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Here's an edit I made just for fun (Or for those who like both versions of the Prologue but only want to keep one of them and can't decide which):

 

 

 

I like to imagine this as more or less the version of the Prologue that Williams might've done if he were able to edit it for the OST back in 1991.

 

This edit uses the more refined performance from the trailer version, but cuts to the alternate extended version from 0:25-0:47.  (I let the alternate go all the way to 0:47 instead of cutting it at 0:37 because I like the brass in the alternate take better.)

 

The premature percussion from the end of the alternate, I wrote off as a performance error, so it's not included here.

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On 16/12/2023 at 5:49 PM, Jay said:

 

Well that's what Disc 3 is.  You can listen to that (specifically tracks 1-21; the last 3 tracks are bonus tracks) as your short program.

 

 

 

11 of the OST album's 17 tracks are here exactly, and the other 6 can be easily approximated, yes. 

 

(Really, if a modern rebuild of the OST album from 1st generation elements if what you're after, that was released by Mondo in 2021 on vinyl.  Hopefully Sony Music replaces the old master with this rebuild on digital platforms at some point)

 

But, to use this set to approximate the OST album, it's easy:

 

OST LLL
1 Prologue 1:31 2-11 Hook Prologue 1:25
2 We Don't Wanna Grow Up 1:50 3-01 We Don't Wanna Grow Up 1:52
3 Banning Back Home 2:22 2-12 Banning Back Home (Extended Version) 4:24
4 Granny Wendy 2:57 1-10 Forgotten How To Fly 0:56
and
1-04 Wendy's Entrance 2:12
5 Hook-Napped 3:56 1-09 Hook Is Back 2:09
and
1-08 Hook Returns To Kensington 2:00
6 The Arrival Of Tink And The Flight To Neverland 5:56 1-12 Arrival Of Tink 3:33
and
3-08 The Flight to Neverland (Alternate) 2:33
7 Presenting The Hook 2:58 1-14 Pirate Town And Presenting The Hook 5:09
8 From Mermaids To Lost Boys 4:24 2-13 From Mermaids To Lost Boys 4:26
9 The Lost Boy Chase 3:32 1-20 The Lost Boy Chase 3:35
10 Smee's Plan 1:45 1-23 Smee's Plan 1:46
11 The Banquet 3:08 1-26 The Banquet 3:14
12 The Never-Feast 4:39 3-14 The Never-Feast 4:42
13 Remembering Childhood 11:02 3-18 Remembering Childhood 11:06
14 You Are The Pan 4:00 2-04 You Are The Pan (Film Version) 1:26
and
1-21 The Face Of Pan 2:42
15 When You Are Alone 3:14 1-28 When You're Alone 3:17
16 The Ultimate War 7:53 2-15 The Ultimate War 7:54
17 Farewell Neverland 10:17 2-09 Farewell Neverland 10:18

 

This is all mentioned in the liner notes, of course.

 

Alternatively, you can spruce things up by using alternates/film versions instead

 

OST LLL
1 Prologue 1:31 1-01 Hook Prologue (Extended Version) 1:33
2 We Don't Wanna Grow Up 1:50 1-02 We Don’t Wanna Grow Up (Extended Version) 2:57
3 Banning Back Home 2:22 1-03 Banning Back Home (Film Version) 3:21
4 Granny Wendy 2:57 1-10 Forgotten How To Fly 0:56
and
1-04 Wendy's Entrance 2:12
5 Hook-Napped 3:56 1-09 Hook Is Back 2:09
and
1-08 Hook Returns To Kensington 2:00
6 The Arrival Of Tink And The Flight To Neverland 5:56 3-06 The Arrival Of Tink (Alternate) 3:35
and
1-13 The Flight To Neverland 2:40
7 Presenting The Hook 2:58 3-24 Presenting The Hook (Vocal Version Segment) 1:38
8 From Mermaids To Lost Boys 4:24 1-18 From Mermaids To Lost Boys (Film Version) 4:26
9 The Lost Boy Chase 3:32 3-10 The Lost Boy Chase (Alternate) 3:34
10 Smee's Plan 1:45 1-23 Smee's Plan 1:46
11 The Banquet 3:08 1-26 The Banquet 3:14
12 The Never-Feast 4:39 1-27 The Never-Feast (Film Version) 4:41
13 Remembering Childhood 11:02 2-02 Home Run And Follow That Shadow 5:24
and
2-03 Peter Remembers (The Flying Sequence) 8:23
14 You Are The Pan 4:00 2-04 You Are The Pan (Film Version) 1:26
and
2-14 The Face Of Pan (Choral Version) 2:43
15 When You Are Alone 3:14 3-14 When You’re Alone (Instrumental) 3:19
16 The Ultimate War 7:53 2-06 The Ultimate War (Film Version) 8:02
17 Farewell Neverland 10:17 3-20 Farewell Neverland (Short Version / Alternate) 6:54

 

Or mix and match between the two

I'm really excited to try your alternate OST program suggestion. But I want to take things further still: I'm going to insert the Boston Pops concert arrangements in it.

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It’s just the tiniest of moments, but on D1 T2 at 0:42, I still think I’m about to hear the Rebel Fanfare.

 

Am I the only one?

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3 hours ago, QuartalHarmony said:

It’s just the tiniest of moments, but on D1 T2 at 0:42, I still think I’m about to hear the Rebel Fanfare.

 

Am I the only one?

I can kinda hear it, yeah

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  • 1 month later...

Potential hot take. I'm listening to Disc 3 again and the songs are really growing on me. So much so that I'm convinced it was a mad idea to scrap most of them. Believe HAD to be in there, Mothers as well. But no, we needed Pick' em Up and We Don't Wanna Grow Up.

 

Something else I've noticed: the piano accompaniments in Childhood and Believe seem to shun JW's more complex harmonies, you wonder why. God, I would have liked to hear Julia Roberts sing Believe accompanied by Exit Music.

 

Also, anyone else listening to the underscore and singing along? I can't not do it anymore.

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3 hours ago, bollemanneke said:

Something else I've noticed: the piano accompaniments in Childhood and Believe seem to shun JW's more complex harmonies, you wonder why.

 

They are just demos laid down to get the basic idea across.

 

3 hours ago, bollemanneke said:

Also, anyone else listening to the underscore and singing along? I can't not do it anymore.

 

Hehehhe, yes, absolutely!

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35 minutes ago, Luke Skywalker said:

Childhood. Childhood is the song which should have never been cut. And should have been performed in the end credits

 

Childhood and the When You're Alone Lullaby.

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