Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Prediction time folks! Note, this is not a "Most Wanted" list but "Most Likely". Purely non-scientific on my part with absolutely no insider information JW scores ONLY The Patriot (Intrada) Cinderella Liberty (Intrada) JFK (LLL) CMIYK (LLL) The Terminal (LLL) Other possibilities? Perhaps Reivers or SYIT ? As the years go by we're left with fewer and fewer choices, which I guess is both good and bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 The Force Awakens (Intrada) The Last Jedi (Intrada) The Rise of Skywalker (Intrada) Catch Me If You Can (LLL) Sleepers (LLL) Just wildly guessing. I have no idea. JTN and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,090 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 DoD JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Born on the Fourth of July (La-La Land) Nixon (Intrada) The Patriot (Intrada) Catch Me Of You Can (La-La Land) The Terminal (La-La Land) Dr. Rick and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Dr. Rick said: JFK (LLL) Unfortunately I don't think JFK is happening anytime soon given that WB is apparently closed for the labels The Patriot and Nixon (on Intrada) and Catch Me If You Can, Seven Years on Tibet and The Terminal are pretty good bets though. Also Born on the Fourth of July. This year will be the 35th birthday. Let's hope Cruise will approve all of his pictures in time for the, well, fourth of July lol. Yavar Moradi and Dr. Rick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 The Patriot from Intrada The Terminal and Gladiator from LLL. Bounty95 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 3 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Gladiator He put this thread in the JW subforum, so I assume he's asking only about JW expansions, not ones from other composers. Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Everyone is betting on The Patriot, so this HAS to be the year! Right? RIGHT?!? Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 2 minutes ago, Jay said: He put this thread in the JW subforum, so I assume he's asking only about JW expansions, not ones from other composers. Yep, updated thread title JW only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I only read thread titles - I rarely notice which forum it's in. (Unread Content page is your friend) And I'm just putting my thoughts down... none of this Williams-only nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 516 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 The Terminal (La La Land) The Patriot (Intrada) Born of The fourth of July (La La Land) Catch Me If You Can (La La Land) Angela’s Ashes (La La Land) Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 17 minutes ago, Smaug The Iron said: The Terminal (La La Land) The Patriot (Intrada) Born of The fourth of July (La La Land) Catch Me If You Can (La La Land) Angela’s Ashes (La La Land) I'd be extremely pleased with all 5 of those! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Nobody wants Sleeper or Stepmom? And are there expansions of The Paper Chase and The Reivers already existing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 516 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Nobody wants Sleeper or Stepmom? 2 hours ago, Dr. Rick said: Note, this is not a "Most Wanted" list but "Most Likely" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Honestly, how much is missing from Stepmom? Either way, since LLL did Sabrina last year, I think it'd be interesting if they also tackled the other JW smaller/more intimate drama scores from the 90s: Sleepers, Stepmom, Angela's Ashes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 @Smaug The Iron But why are Stepmom and Sleepers unlikely? For JFK and Witches of Eastwick there is this Warner issue. Ok. But for Stepmom and Sleepers? 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: Honestly, how much is missing from Stepmom? I mean, how much is missing from Angela's Ashes? Is there anything missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,473 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: I mean, how much is missing from Angela's Ashes? Is there anything missing? In Angela's Ashes cases, a new and improved version would be welcomed if only to get rid of the stupid dialogues over the music Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 516 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 6 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: @Smaug The Iron But why are Stepmom and Sleepers unlikely? They are not unlikely, just that the other five is more likely in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 21 minutes ago, Smaug The Iron said: They are not unlikely, just that the other five is more likely in my opinion. But why? 25 minutes ago, Edmilson said: In Angela's Ashes cases, a new and improved version would be welcomed if only to get rid of the stupid dialogues over the music Luckily the OST album in Germany was without dialogue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 21 hours ago, GerateWohl said: And are there expansions of The Paper Chase and The Reivers already existing? The Paper Chase cannot be "expanded", because it never had an OST album to begin with. The first time music from it was released was 19 years after the film came out, on Film Score Monthly's 1998 release of The Poseidon Adventure. I do not know if the 30 minutes on that disc are the entire score or not; I've never seen the movie. Varese later included the end titles on a 20th Century Fox 75th Anniversary 3-CD compilation in 2010. The Reivers DID have an OST album in 1969 on CBS Records, a label later absorbed into Sony Music. When Sony Music issued the album on the CD format in 1995, they "expanded" it by adding one additional track. I believe the specialty labels have never tackled this one because no elements exist anywhere. The film was made by a former studio National General Pictures - which went defunct 5 years after the movie came out. While Warner Bros. supposedly inherited their library, I doubt any scoring elements in NGP's vaults made it over. Looking at the list of films NGP made, I don't think the specialty labels haven't tackled a single one? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_General_Pictures#Partial_list_of_film_titles crumbs, GerateWohl and QuartalHarmony 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,602 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1 hour ago, Jay said: The Paper Chase cannot be "expanded", because it never had an OST album to begin with. The first time music from it was released was 19 years after the film came out, on Film Score Monthly's 1998 release of The Poseidon Adventure. I do not know if the 30 minutes on that disc are the entire score or not; I've never seen the movie. Well, Film Score Monthly released Jerry Goldsmith's The Flim-Flam Man a little later, with what they (at the time) claimed was the complete score. And then it turned out that they had left off one cue just under a minute long. I would still describe the La-La Land edition of it as "expanded" because it's longer than the (any) previous released. Similarly Jerry Goldsmith's score to Magic was premiered on CD long after the film's release by Varese Sarabande. They left off a single 23 second cue, which La-La Land later premiered on album when they revisited the title. As silly as it may seem I even consider than an "expanded" release because it has added music which the previous release lacked. So why is the existence of an OST album at the time of the film what's needed to say something can be expanded? Isn't the important question whether everything recorded for a film has been released? And you've just said that in the case of The Paper Chase, you don't know. So how can you claim authoritatively that it "cannot be expanded"? I personally would love at least if a new (mostly?) stereo edition of it could be produced, along the lines of what Mike Matessino did for Kritzerland on Goldsmith's Rio Conchos (originally on a mostly-mono FSM release). There's been a lot of new software invented to deal with wow and other tape damage, and I wouldn't be surprised if a vastly improved The Paper Chase (expanded or not) could be possible. I'll buy it if it happens! And while we are at it I'd really like to have more of Conrack too. Yavar enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 An expanded release refers to a release with more music than the OST album. The Paper Chase never had an OST album. So any release of its music are different catalog releases of its score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,602 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 2 hours ago, Jay said: Looking at the list of films NGP made, the specialty labels haven't tackled a single one https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_General_Pictures#Partial_list_of_film_titles Reel Music Down Under was an Australian film music specialty label and this is a good release: https://www.discogs.com/release/6298961-Fred-Karlin-The-Stalking-Moon Also, I know we all hated Stylotone for forcing us to buy LP copies of albums in order to get CDs, but did they not count as a "film music specialty label" for some reason? They put out Herrmann's Twisted Nerve, complete, with the cooperation of the Herrmann Estate: https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=114145 Prometheus Records (now defunct...maybe?) released Big Jake by Elmer Bernstein: http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1190/0636/products/9b39b735-be2f-4fa4-9a6d-3ffddbe80274_2048x2048.jpg?v=1456926936 They also premiered Rio Lobo on album, later revisited by La-La Land: https://lalalandrecords.com/rio-lobo-limited-edition/ And surely you would count Kritzerland releasing A Boy Named Charlie Brown? http://www.kritzerland.com/boy_charlie_brown.htm Or FSM releasing an expanded edition of Rosenman's A Man Called Horse? https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/466/Man-Called-Horse-A/ Or Judge Roy Bean? https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/367/Life-and-Times-of-Judge-Roy-Bean-The/ Or Monte Walsh? https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/cdID/21/ Or The Getaway (unused)? https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/cds/detail.cfm/CDID/350/Getaway-The-Unused-Score-The/ Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Well that's all good news! Maybe the Reivers elements have survived, somehow! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted January 30 Author Share Posted January 30 If anyone can find "lost" elements, it's MM! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 2,602 Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 57 minutes ago, Jay said: An expanded release refers to a release with more music than the OST album. The Paper Chase never had an OST album. So any release of its music are different catalog releases of its score. ...some of which are expanded over previous catalogue releases. You're the first person I've ever seen claim that "An expanded release refers to a release with more music than the OST album" (thereby requiring the existence of specifically an OST album at the time of the film release, rather than simply any previous release which had less music). Film music specialty labels regularly call their releases "expanded" when they offer *any* additional music over any previous releases, whether or not those previous releases were "OST albums" produced at the time of the film. For example, in the release blurb here, La-La Land says, "This collection’s presentation of S*P*Y*S (previously available in truncated form only in a long out-of-print box set) is expanded with never-before-released material." https://lalalandrecords.com/goldsmith-at-20th-vol-3-the-stripper-s-p-y-s-limited-edition/ And that's in relation to a 19 minute suite released from the score on a long OOP limited 6 CD box set, not even a previous standalone album release for the score. Or for a couple more recent examples from La-La Land where it's on the page title: Topaz (no OST was released, Universal France premiered it on CD in 2012): https://lalalandrecords.com/topaz-expanded-stereo-limited-edition/ War of the Worlds/When Worlds Collide (premiered on CD by Intrada also in 2012): https://lalalandrecords.com/war-of-the-worlds-70th-anniversary-when-worlds-collide-expanded-and-remastered-limited-edition/ For a final example, Intrada also used the term "expanded" for their recent edition of Something Wicked This Way Comes, which had no OST at the time of the film and the only previous release was their own premiere of the score on album in 2009: https://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12899/.f?sc=13&category=-113 "Expanded" just means "enlarged" or "extended" compared with a previous edition (or editions). So The Paper Chase, despite never having had an OST album, can still be expanded if there is any more previously-unreleased music to add. Yavar CGCJ, Tallguy, Jurassic Shark and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,373 Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 ok Justanothercrow421, Dr. Rick, Brando and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 Has anyone mentioned... I mean, why not, huh? JTN and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,672 Posted January 30 Popular Post Share Posted January 30 8 minutes ago, Tallguy said: Has anyone mentioned... I mean, why not, huh? Because SW and "most likely" are not compatible terms. Richard Penna, Brando, QuartalHarmony and 4 others 1 1 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 1. Star Wars LLL 2. Indiana Jones LLL 3. Catch Me If You Can LLL 4. Spider-man 2 LLL 5. Spider-man 3 LLL Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 3,419 Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 Catch Me if You Can Stepmom The Terminal The Patriot Born on the Fourth of July ..... but what i want: RAIDERS TEMPLE CRUSADE SKULL DIAL Trope, Andy and Brando 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 hours ago, Tom said: Because SW and "most likely" are not compatible terms. To be fair the last two even numbered years we've gotten Star Wars score expansions... The Rogue One one surprise dropped about 2 years ago to the date, perhaps it's a pattern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,672 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 7 hours ago, enderdrag64 said: To be fair the last two even numbered years we've gotten Star Wars score expansions... The Rogue One one surprise dropped about 2 years ago to the date, perhaps it's a pattern This comment is akin to Dangerfield's complaint to his wife that she is never interested in sex, to which she replies, what are you talking about? I have sex all the time. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,473 Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 Using advanced math, I calculated the probability of Disney releasing the complete John Williams scores for Star Wars within the next three years: Spoiler 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% JTN, Trope and Brando 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The Sugarland Express LLL: after all it's the 50th anniversary so that might change Williams mind about it Born on the Fourth of July LLL: if Tom Cruise had time to agree to the visuals of the UHD release he might as well have took some time for the expansion The Terminal LLL: 20th anniversary is a perfect time for a complete release Cinderella Liberty Intrada: Williams seems to love that score and Intrada is working on at least two Williams so this one would be the best candidat The Rare Breed Intrada: after Denève recent statement I like to think it's really coming Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Edmilson said: Using advanced math, I calculated the probability of Disney releasing the complete John Williams scores for Star Wars within the next three years: Reveal hidden contents 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% Hmmmm. "So you're saying there's a chance" or "Never tell me the odds"? Choices choices. Brando and ThePenitentMan1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,046 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Star Wars OT & Indiana Jones OT Complete Remastered Collections. Duh. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 10 minutes ago, JTW said: Star Wars OT & Indiana Jones OT Complete Remastered Collections. Duh. Wishing makes it so. JTN and aj_vader 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounty95 558 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 4 hours ago, Edmilson said: Using advanced math, I calculated the probability of Disney releasing the complete John Williams scores for Star Wars within the next three years: Hide contents 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% Btw, what's the story behind your profile pic? Did you lose a bet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,473 Posted January 31 Popular Post Share Posted January 31 13 minutes ago, Bounty95 said: Btw, what's the story behind your profile pic? Did you lose a bet? I did, yeah. I made the most foolish bet possible: I bet against John Williams not being nominated for an Oscar. Now I have to use LB's face as my avatar until February 23rd, and if JW somehow wins, it'll be until 2025. Cerebral Cortex, Tallguy, Bounty95 and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Can I just have a replacement disc for my faulty expanded Schindler’s List CD2, I’l be happy. Thanks. Thats it for 2024. I’ll make grander wishes for 2025, I promise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The Patriot Born On The Fourth Of July Nixon Sleepers The Terminal Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 6 hours ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: The Terminal LLL: 20th anniversary is a perfect time for a complete release Given how long some of these releases are in gestation, I wonder how any anniversary release actually happens on its anniversary. Hopefully this would be one of Mike's simpler projects. On 30/01/2024 at 5:51 PM, GerateWohl said: Nobody wants Sleeper or Stepmom? I'm encouraged to see this (latter) on only two peoples' lists tbh. There are so many more pressing expansions for the labels to be working towards than whatever's missing from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,531 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Let's just say whatever they may be, I'll be happy to dive in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 36 minutes ago, Holko said: Let's just say whatever they may be, I'll be happy to dive in. Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water? ThePenitentMan1 and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 11 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Given how long some of these releases are in gestation, I wonder how any anniversary release actually happens on its anniversary. Hopefully this would be one of Mike's simpler projects. Well we've got a bunch of them: War of the Worlds for its 15th anniversary Saving Private Ryan for its 20th anniversary A.I. for its 20th anniversary Amistad for its 25th anniversary Home Alone for its 25th anniversary Schindler's List for its 25th anniversary E.T. for its 35th and 40th anniversary Jaws for its 40th anniversary Superman for its 40th anniversary CE3K for its 40th and 45th anniversary Fiddler on the Roof for its 50th anniversary Lost in Space for its 40th and 50th anniversary Land of the Giants for its 50th anniversary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Born on the Fourth of July - 35th Anniversary Edition (LLL, July) The Terminal - 20th Anniversary Edition (LLL) The Rare Breed (Quartet) Cinderella Liberty or The Patriot (Intrada) Sleepers (LLL) Dr. Rick and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Might Cinderella Liberty be unlikely because the OST has just been published completely as part of the Ecoutez le cinema boxset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 7 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: Might Cinderella Liberty be unlikely because the OST has just been published completely as part of the Ecoutez le cinema boxset? Did that set use the same album master as the last Intrada reissue? If not, and it uses brand new transfers of the scoring elements, that might be a solid hint a remaster is in the works. Also interesting that Williams wrote a new violin arrangement back in 2020, so the score was fresh in his mind for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,373 Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 14 minutes ago, crumbs said: Did that set use the same album master as the last Intrada reissue? I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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