BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 If scores were like breakfast cereals, not everyone can be Lucky Charms, Count Dracula, or an expensive crunchy granola sweet cereal. Somebody's gotta be the generic off-brand corn flakes.True enough.Not everyone can be Wheaties, or Special K. Somebody's gotta be plain old Corn Flakes.And somebody's got to be poo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Nobody's twisting your arm saying "listen to Pirates of the Caribbean or die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 If scores were like breakfast cereals, not everyone can be Lucky Charms, Count Dracula, or an expensive crunchy granola sweet cereal. Somebody's gotta be the generic off-brand corn flakes.Some members here may have an issue with your metaphor, considering corn flakes are healthier than the other cereals you've mentioned, and many here consider the score to Pirates to be physically damaging to the human brain and body. I'd liken Pirates to Cookie Crisp. Cookies for breakfast? Come on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 If scores were like breakfast cereals, not everyone can be Lucky Charms, Count Dracula, or an expensive crunchy granola sweet cereal. Somebody's gotta be the generic off-brand corn flakes.Some members here may have an issue with your metaphor, considering corn flakes are healthier than the other cereals you've mentioned, and many here consider the score to Pirates to be physically damaging to the human brain and body. I'd liken Pirates to Cookie Crisp. Cookies for breakfast? Come on.Oh come on, everyone is missing the obvious, if POTC is a breakfast cereal its Capt'n Crunch. Tastes pretty good but never fails to tear up the roof of your mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 "obvious" - there's another word that will start a war some day.Obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,070 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I'm bored.What's for breakfast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,061 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 I prefer a good cup of coffee with either hash browns, bacon, sausage, corn beef hash or toast for my breakfast.Although left over pizza always tastes good in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,441 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 Now I feel like I'm in a TheListener thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted March 3, 2009 Share Posted March 3, 2009 If movie scores were like breakfast cereals....now there's a thread topic to make me start thinking about Trevor Jones' mug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyncMan 315 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I went to the Live-2-Projection concert of Pirates of the Carribean-The Curse of the Black Pearl with the Grand Rapids Symphony Orchestra in Grand Rapids, MI, last Saturday. When I decided to go, I thought that a large orchestra would make the score sound a little better. It didn’t. I should have listened to Eric Woods’ review. On 9/10/2005 at 1:35 PM, Erik Woods said: The Pirates score is pure poo. IMHO, it is the worst score ever written. -Erik- Conductor John Varineau introduced the audience with a pirate accent and saying, “Arrr.” He encourages them to cheer at the screen by saying, “the more you react, the more we play.” Despite that, there was very little crowd reactions, even at Jack Sparrow antics, which I liked. Having not seen the film, it was entertaining. By the time the end credits came, the orchestra stopped playing, but the remainder of the credits resumed. Frankly, I didn’t mind that the performance ended that way, because I really didn’t like the music. Perhaps I’m been spoiled by all the John Williams Live-to-Projection concerts that I’ve been to that I didn’t enjoy this one. A question: After the conductor and the orchestra filed-out of the stage, I peeked at the conductor’s video monitor, positioned just above the lactern, where a separate verson of the film is shown with sync-patterns to help the conductor stay in sync with the film. As you can see in this video I took, there are sync-patterns shown in-front of the end credits, but all the musicians are gone. Not that I would lose sleep over this, but has there been any performance of POTC-I where music for the remainder of the end credits was played? https://drive.google.com/file/d/12lMPSmGFua5ktwhsw3U5zdI4NQ3MXGvN/preview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Damn, you guys were harsh on this! Even if it's not your thing, 1 star seems a bit excessive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 PotC 1 is better than Star Trek. Smaug The Iron and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,345 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I like this better than the film's music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Isn't that supposed to be a big, AAA game? Why is the music synthed like it's from 2002? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,345 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Because the movie's from 2003! : D Fargo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,362 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 There are worse scores, I think, and it's enjoyable enough if you consider how quickly it was written. EDIT: Wait, did you just say they did NOT play during the credits? What's the point of a movie concert again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2019 Whoah. A single star has the highest total? Personally, I gave it four stars. Unforgettable themes. Amazing action cues. Iconic. When you think of sailing the high seas, this music is in your head. Perhaps the negative stigma is a result of the OST, which, while not a bad representation of the score, doesn't include many great moments of the recording sessions. Smaug The Iron, Cerebral Cortex, Holko and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,489 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 You are without doubt the worst pirate score I've ever heard of. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 It's not even the worst of of the franchise. It's right up there with At World's End IMO. Not a huge fan of Dead Man's Chest, but I'd probably say: 1. At World's End 2. Curse of the Black Pearl 3. Dead Man's Chest 4. Dead Men Tell No Tales 5. On Stranger Tides Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 I gave it a 3.5 now because it's definitely below AWE which is a 4. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 325 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 Definitely rated too low here on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,137 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 @Pieter_Boelen, the poll is missing an option - zero stars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 4 hours ago, Holko said: I gave it a 3.5 now because it's definitely below AWE which is a 4. I gave it 4 because I would rate AWE at 4.5 There was some shite posted in this thread Smaug The Iron and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted March 12, 2019 Author Share Posted March 12, 2019 11 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: It's not even the worst of of the franchise. It's right up there with At World's End IMO. Not a huge fan of Dead Man's Chest, but I'd probably say: 1. At World's End 2. Curse of the Black Pearl 3. Dead Man's Chest 4. Dead Men Tell No Tales 5. On Stranger Tides That does actually sound about right. I was never much impressed with DMC either. 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: @Pieter_Boelen, the poll is missing an option - zero stars. You might be slightly late with that. Jurassic Shark and The Illustrious Jerry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,137 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Pieter_Boelen said: You might be slightly late with that. I believe you may still add it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 325 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 And if we are rating albums, Stranger Tides is clearly the worst. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 17 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Whoah. A single star has the highest total? 1 That is because zero stars wasn't available. 17 hours ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: When you think of sailing the high seas, this music is in your head. No - this is the music in my head - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,137 Posted March 12, 2019 Share Posted March 12, 2019 17 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: No - this is the music in my head - No, this is the music in my head! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted March 13, 2019 Author Share Posted March 13, 2019 17 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: No - this is the music in my head - I definitely like that one a lot. Also Cutthroat Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,137 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Pieter_Boelen said: I definitely like that one a lot. Also Cutthroat Island. The Sea Hawk beats them all! TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,716 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 I wonder how many people in this thread see this as a servicable score but give it 1 or zero stars because it's 'cool' around here to completely trash the score. I'm no fan of the committee method of composing this (many composers would've come up with something better solo) but it's got a memorable main theme and some rather fun parts. Pieter Boelen and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,137 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 It just sounds underdeveloped. Like an early draft, which it probably was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 To the last 2 comments: they had 3 weeks or something after firing Silvestri for using woodwinds. Considering that it's a pretty good score and a great base to build upon later. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Holko said: To the last 2 comments: they had 3 weeks or something after firing Silvestri for using woodwinds. Considering that it's a pretty good score and a great base to build upon later. Has anything from Silvestri’s rejected score ever made it out? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,137 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 2 minutes ago, Holko said: To the last 2 comments: they had 3 weeks or something after firing Silvestri for using woodwinds. Just shows how stupid the producers were. Were any of Silvestri's cues recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Caliburn 72 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 On 3/11/2019 at 6:36 PM, SyncMan said: Not that I would lose sleep over this, but has there been any performance of POTC-I where music for the remainder of the end credits was played? https://drive.google.com/file/d/12lMPSmGFua5ktwhsw3U5zdI4NQ3MXGvN/preview Yes, and the answer should ALWAYS be yes for every live to screen movie. The end credits are where the orchestra can shine. For the Matrix live to projection they even use Don Davis' end credits music instead of the song. Not finishing the end credit is a disgrace. I wanted to add "In my humble opinion" to that last sentence, but I am not going to. It IS a disgrace Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 13, 2019 Share Posted March 13, 2019 Listening to the recording sessions for At World's End and The Curse of the Blck Pearl. I have no doubts regarding my comments earlier. If anything I have higher praise for these scores now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyncMan 315 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Caliburn said: Yes, and the answer should ALWAYS be yes for every live to screen movie. The end credits are where the orchestra can shine. For the Matrix live to projection they even use Don Davis' end credits music instead of the song. Not finishing the end credit is a disgrace. I wanted to add "In my humble opinion" to that last sentence, but I am not going to. It IS a disgrace I think the remaining music for the end credits sequence would have been an edit of portions from body of the score, as it is the standard for movies of today. I fell that the Grand Rapids Symphony Orchestra did great service to the audience by not playing any more of this music, even it is bits and pieces from the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,646 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 3.5 stars. "You are a Pirate" is one of Zimmer's best tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,441 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: You are a Pirate Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,332 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 This score was my first lesson in discovering that a score that sounds amazing blasted over theater speakers enhanced by all manner of sound effects can actually be thoroughly lame on CD. At 13 I really had no opinion or knowledge of Zimmer or MV, I just know I was excited to buy the soundtrack after the movie and was disappointed by the lack of goosebumps I’d come to expect from film music. I go like 2.5, hardly transportive but good hype in the film and probably rules at a Z man concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Just to be clear: 2.5 based on a very short and messy OST mixed so badly at one point it just blows out the bass and becomes distorted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I'm just going through some stellar cues in the recording sessions: Blood Ritual Captain Jack Sparrow Bloody Pirates! Commandeering the Interceptor Boarding the Dauntless Village Attack ...among others. Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,332 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 50 minutes ago, Holko said: Just to be clear: 2.5 based on a very short and messy OST mixed so badly at one point it just blows out the bass and becomes distorted? More like 2.5 based on nostalgia, some acknowledgment of its pop culture primacy and no further interest in revisiting these scores or movies anymore. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 Am I the only one that thinks Dead Man’s Chest is the best film and score? My holy grail would be a proper complete box set for at least 1-3. Bilbo and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smaug The Iron 517 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Koray Savas said: My holy grail would be a proper complete box set for at least 1-3. Me too The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Koray Savas said: Am I the only one that thinks Dead Man’s Chest is the best film and score? I agree. Still can't stand the first score, though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 I wish they’d re-record it (with real instruments) The music itself isn’t *that* bad (although not very “pirate-y), it’s just really badly mixed and does not sound great on synths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,547 Posted March 14, 2019 Share Posted March 14, 2019 The Love theme, the Hoist the Colours theme, the Singapore material and the Locker all push 3's score to the top for me, in this order. 2 is good but I now can't remember why I placed it behind 1 - I'll get back to those 2 in a month or two when my alphabetical listenthrough gets to "P". For films, I'd definitely place 1 on top, it's a surprisingly well written fun standalone adventure romp. 2 is almost nothing without 3 and 3 is a bloated mess, not great. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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