ChuckM 1 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 What examples can you think of? A few that come immediately to mind for me are We Were Sodiers by Nick Glennie-Smith, Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow by Edward Shearmur, and Bridge to Terabithia by Aaron Zigman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I'm still big on Debney's Cutthroat Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 I agree with Sky CaptainHere's a few moreCraig Safran-The Last StarfighterLaurence Rosenthal- Clash of the TitansStu Philips-Battlestar GalacticaJavier Navarrete-Pan's LabyrinthJoel McNeely-Shadows of the EmpireMichel Legrand-Ice Station ZebraLaura Karpman-TakenJames Newton Howard:Peter Pan (sorry I don't much care for the rest of his scores)Dave Grusin-The GooniesClint Eastwood-Million Dollar BabyBill Conti :Masters of the Universe (I guess I can add The Right Stuff)Christopher Beck -Percy Jackson and the OlympiansDavid Arnold :Stargate and ID4Jose Nieto-Star KnightTrevor Jones-The Dark CrystalHoward Shore-Return of the KingAlexandre Desplat-Benjamin Button ( I find the rest of his output lesser versions of this one)It doesn't mean they haven't composed anything else that's good ,but as the thread say outstanding. But in some cases the cited example is the only one I like from these composers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 9, 2010 Share Posted April 9, 2010 Howard Shore-Return of the KinkEr... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Sky Captain was the first thing to come to my mind as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 To add to Sky Captain I also really like Shearmurs' The Count of Monte Cristo.I love Dragonheart but I haven't heard anything else from Randy Edelman that comes close.Granted I haven't looked too hard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I agree with Sky CaptainHere's a few moreJames Newton Howard:Peter Pan (sorry I don't much care for the rest of his scores)Of all of JNH's scores, you choose that one, hmmm.Never heard any of his M. Night scores? Kong? Atlantis has some Williams-esque writing.I'd say:Mychael Danna - Nativity StoryLee Holdridge - Mists of Avalon.Not saying either composer is average, just that no other scores by them really appeal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 For a long time, Mists of Avalon was the only score by Holdridge I knew. Over the last few months, I picked up three more of his CDs, and they're all very good. Some even outstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 I'm still big on Debney's Cutthroat Island.I would tend to place Debney a bit above average, but at the very least Lair has to be included here. It is a fantastic score and by far his best IMO. Cutthroat Island is excellent as well though.Stu Philips-Battlestar GalacticaJavier Navarrete-Pan's LabyrinthJoel McNeely-Shadows of the Empire...Dave Grusin-The GooniesGood ones!James Newton Howard:Peter Pan (sorry I don't much care for the rest of his scores)Wow. Just... wow.(I guess I can add The Right Stuff)You do know that whole score is just a direct pastiche/rip of The Planets, right?David Arnold :Stargate and ID4Again, I would tend to place Arnold a bit above average, but yes, those are definately his best.Trevor Jones-The Dark CrystalAdd Dark City and The Last of the Mohicans to that (although Mohicans was also with Edelman).Howard Shore-Return of the KingAgreed, although I would put the whole trilogy in there.I love Dragonheart but I haven't heard anything else from Randy Edelman that comes close.Granted I haven't looked too hard...Gettysburg and The Last of the Mohicans (with Jones) are also quite good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 James Newton Howard's score for Dinosaur is always awesome to listen to. Evanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 ^ That it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 Indeed! Although, JNH is way above average in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 JNH is in my top 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Gettysburg and The Last of the Mohicans (with Jones) are also quite good.Big fan of Mohicans, but Jones did most of my favorite parts from that one.I'm unfamiliar with Gettysburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wycket 36 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I got a coupleCliff Eidelman -- Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered CountryBrian Tyler -- Children of Dune Niktob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Cliff Eidelman -- Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered CountryGreat choice. Star Trek VI is indeed fun to listen to, especially the foot-warmer. Niktob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Dammit, Mark! Leave some for the rest of us!I guess I'll just have to agree with Trevor Jones's The Dark Crystal and Craig Safan's The Last Starfighter (a true gem from a guy who couldn't vary his scores a bit). I love Dragonheart but I haven't heard anything else from Randy Edelman that comes close.Granted I haven't looked too hard...Dragon: The Bruce Lee Story was phenomenal (film and score). - Uni Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Random comments:Lee Holdridge>>>Splash is the only score I ever noticed from him (the love theme)John Debney>>>> I'd say Zathura and Seaquest DSV .I can't stand Cuthroat Island except 1 cue (Discovery of the Treasure)The Right Stuff :I know it's a pastiche...but it still sounds goodJNH. I should try another round of listeningMiklos Rosza :Ben Hur and El Cid are the only ones I can really get into Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Mychael Danna - Nativity StoryHave you heard Little Miss Sunshine? I think it's absolutely fantastic, I'd recommend listening to some samples if you haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 John Williams - Empire Strikes Back Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I agree with Sky CaptainI don't. Reign of Fire, The Count of Monte Cristo... all outstanding! Here's a few moreCraig Safran-The Last StarfighterMissing out on Son of the Morning Star!Joel McNeely-Shadows of the EmpireLover's Prayer anyone? One of the most beautiful scores composed in the past ten years!James Newton Howard:Peter Pan (sorry I don't much care for the rest of his scores)This boggles the mind. I don't know where to begin. Well, IMHO, Signs was the best score of the past decade! Then there's all the outstanding work he has done with Disney. Wyatt Earp, Alive, Waterworld, etc.Bill Conti :Masters of the Universe (I guess I can add The Right Stuff)Don't have much Conti in your collection do ya? Try F.I.S.T., North and South, The Karate Kid.David Arnold :Stargate and ID4Add Tomorrow Never Dies, Casino Royale and Godzilla to the list!Trevor Jones-The Dark CrystalMerlin, Dark City, The Last of the Mohicans.Howard Shore-Return of the KingYou can't be serious... can you? The Fly, Se7en, The Score, Looking For Richard.-Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I agree on Shore, he has many brilliant works, although Erik, surely you of all people should know Dave Grusin composed THE GOONIES However, I'm still reeling that Rozsa's name has been brought up. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I agree on Shore, he has many brilliant works, although Erik, surely you of all people should know Dave Grusin composed THE GOONIES I was replying to two threads at the same time. However, I'm still reeling that Rozsa's name has been brought up. Wow.Indeed. 8O -Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I can't really think of any.John Frizzell - Dante's Peak (although I really only like JNH's theme) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I can't really think of any.John Frizzell - Dante's Peak (although I really only like JNH's theme)I think his scores to Alien Resurrection and Gods and Generals are outstanding!-Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurgaFlippinMan 7 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I agree with Sky CaptainHere's a few moreCraig Safran-The Last StarfighterLaurence Rosenthal- Clash of the TitansStu Philips-Battlestar GalacticaJavier Navarrete-Pan's LabyrinthJoel McNeely-Shadows of the EmpireMichel Legrand-Ice Station ZebraLaura Karpman-TakenJames Newton Howard:Peter Pan (sorry I don't much care for the rest of his scores)Dave Grusin-The GooniesClint Eastwood-Million Dollar BabyBill Conti :Masters of the Universe (I guess I can add The Right Stuff)Christopher Beck -Percy Jackson and the OlympiansDavid Arnold :Stargate and ID4Jose Nieto-Star KnightTrevor Jones-The Dark CrystalHoward Shore-Return of the KingAlexandre Desplat-Benjamin Button ( I find the rest of his output lesser versions of this one)It doesn't mean they haven't composed anything else that's good ,but as the thread say outstanding. But in some cases the cited example is the only one I like from these composersMillion Dollar Baby? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I don't. Reign of Fire, The Count of Monte Cristo... all outstanding!Reign of Fire, although technically accomplished, fails to do anything for me. I have to find Monte Cristo somewhere, I remember really liking at least one or two cues in the film. (I haven't heard Sky Captain)Joel McNeely-Shadows of the EmpireLover's Prayer anyone? One of the most beautiful scores composed in the past ten years!I have Shadows of the Empire and The Avengers, and I find the latter to be the far better of the two.James Newton Howard:Peter Pan (sorry I don't much care for the rest of his scores)This boggles the mind. I don't know where to begin. Well, IMHO, Signs was the best score of the past decade! Then there's all the outstanding work he has done with Disney. Wyatt Earp, Alive, Waterworld, etc.I like Signs, The Village and several others, but my favourites remain King Kong and Lady in the Water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 David Arnold, Trevor Jones, Howard Shore, Edward Shearmur, Laurence Rosenthal, and Joel McNeely all have nothing to do in this thread. All have multiple very good to great scores.Let's take this seriously, guys. Now then:Hans Zimmer - Crimson Tide Hehehe.No, the best example I can think of is:Revell - The Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Let's take this seriously, guys. Now then:Hans Zimmer - Crimson Tide Hehehe.Too generous. How about Harry Gregson-Williams: Narnia- The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe. At least the first half, before it descends into MVness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 James Newton Howard:Peter Pan (sorry I don't much care for the rest of his scores)This boggles the mind.Indeed it does. Atlantis, Dinosaur, King Kong, and others blow it out of the water easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Miklos Rozsa?????Average????WTF????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Nope, it wasn't me who said that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Miklos Rosza is pretty great , but a lot of his stuff has the typical golden age sound. I was just pointing out the 2 scores I end up playing more and seem to out shine the other ones overall. I usually love his Finales though (like in Time after Time)Sorry I can't agree that Reign of Fire can be argued to be a great score. I checked that one out after Sky Captain and thought it sucked as a listening experience. Count of Monte Crisko has a few great tracks like the End Credits and the love theme. I have that in my special play list.JNH :I find his THEMES really weak compared to others like Williams,Goldsmith,Horner...Somehow they abort before amounting to anything greatMillion Dollar Baby : I was impressed my the Morricone-like theme...in a few cues like Deep in ThoughtDavid Arnold. Can't get into his Bond scores.Eric Woods ...I'll try to find some of theses score you mention I haven't listened to.--I categorize scores in 4 categories:1)Special status: Obsessive hunt for unreleased music, make complete scores edits (SW,Indy,HP...)2)Scores that are good from start to finish and you need to listen to in their entirety every time (no cue skipping)3)Scores with a few great themes and tracks but otherwise skippable underscore (this is where the ipod central button and on-the-fly playlists becomes REALLY usefull).You want to save those precious cues for later listening before you forget about them.4)Scores I can't find anything to like and will never listen to more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Alan Silvestri - Back to the Future.Sorry, I don't find ANYTHING by Alan Silvestri outstanding except for BTTF. (Some are pretty good, but not outstanding.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 JNH :I find his THEMES really weak compared to others like Williams,Goldsmith,Horner...Somehow they abort before amounting to anything greatJames Newton Howard's only outstanding piece is probably the theme from ER (and possibly The Fugitive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 "The Egg Travels"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I don't understand the hate for JNH. He's probably my second or third favorite composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 He's one of the best alive and working, IMO, though I certainly disagree with some of the artistic choices he's made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I'll try finding Nanny Mc Phee 2 to give it a listen if it turns up somewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,131 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Bill Conti :Masters of the Universe (I guess I can add The Right Stuff)I've been enjoying MOTU lately. Isn't Conti highly regarded for North and the South and the Karate Kid scores? I haven't heard them myself. Are they any good, or is MOTU and Right Stuff as good as Conti gets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I only liked MOTU by Bill Conti. That's a good example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I don't understand the hate for JNH. He's probably my second or third favorite composer.I don't hate him at all.In fact, I like him quite a bit. But there aren't that many outstanding works, let's be honest.Maybe 3 or 4 scores (Fugitive, Village, etc.), and the aforementioned ER theme (which I love). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckM 1 Posted April 10, 2010 Author Share Posted April 10, 2010 Okay, it's time to set the record straight on JNH. Here are his fantastic scores (there are plenty of others that are just good):The FugitiveWaterworldThe Sixth SenseDinosaurUnbreakableAtlantis: The Lost EmpirePeter PanHidalgoThe VilliageBatman BeginsKing KongBlood DiamondLady in the WaterI Am LegendThe Water Horse: Legend Of The Deep (I have not personally heard this yet, but I've heard nothing but good reviews.)The Dark Knight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I like Dinosaur, but I wouldn't rate it THAT highly. The Dark Knight was an especially awful listening experience for me personally, though maybe I should attribute that more to Zimmer. Or my own musical tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alejandro 26 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I think Conti's Rocky and Rookie of the Year are awesome!!JNH's 'Dave' has a pretty well developed theme, plus The Fugitive. The end credits to Big Trouble is fantastic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 I enjoy the score to Wes Craven's New Nightmare, but I can't say the same for anything else that J. Peter Robinson has composed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Okay, it's time to set the record straight on JNH. Here are his fantastic scores (there are plenty of others that are just good):...The Dark Knight*splutter* what?. He contributed about 3 cues. Hardly 'fantastic'The others definitely demonstrate that he has range, although I think there are some genres I like better from him than others. Action/adventure scores (Hidalgo/Vertical Limit) tend to do not so well with me, whereas straight drama and fantasy (all of his M.Night scores, I Am Legend, The Water Horse, Snow Falling on Cedars etc) show some real intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 Okay, it's time to set the record straight on JNH. Here are his fantastic scores (there are plenty of others that are just good):The FugitiveWaterworldThe Sixth SenseDinosaurUnbreakableAtlantis: The Lost EmpirePeter PanHidalgoThe VilliageBatman BeginsKing KongBlood DiamondLady in the WaterI Am LegendThe Water Horse: Legend Of The Deep (I have not personally heard this yet, but I've heard nothing but good reviews.)The Dark KnightYeah, again, IMO, most of them are good, but hardly outstanding. But that's just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steb74 53 Posted April 10, 2010 Share Posted April 10, 2010 *splutter* what?. He contributed about 3 cues. Hardly 'fantastic'You might want to wipe up your splutter, from what I briefly saw of The Dark Knight written score, JNH's name was on about 20 cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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