MedigoScan 324 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 so I hear they used music themes from the prequels as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 23, 2018 Author Share Posted May 23, 2018 Let's talk about the film itself here (or in the spoiler thread), and do all the score talk in the score thread. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 23, 2018 Share Posted May 23, 2018 15 minutes ago, MedigoScan said: so I hear they used music themes from the prequels as well Well, it is a prequel... Pellaeon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 So is this a movie that feels like it was written by the dude behind Empire, Raiders, and Accidental Tourist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 More like the same writer who did Space Mutiny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Pretty dull overall I'd say. A plot that I did not care about at all. Nothing distinctive about it. Rogue one had a more interesting plot and definitely a striking ending. The lead was dull as well. Can't imagine seeing this ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 The movie was serviceable, enjoyable in parts, but forgettable. Ron Howard and the writers played it all safe, and while it has some fun moments... it's a movie that clearly didn't need to be made. And from a few plot threads left hanging at the end, Kathleen Kennedy is planning for a sequel. Spoiler But the Darth Maul cameo at the end... it doesn't make sense. The actors were top-notch. Ehrenreich did okay -- he's no Harrison, but I didn't want him doing an impression either. Donald Glover went above and beyond as Lando Calrissian, he was fantastic in each scene he was in. Khaleesi (aka Emilia Clarke) was there to look pretty as the love interest. Paul Bettany, Thandie Newton, and Woody Harrelson were rather wasted though. And what was with the filters? I understand Han comes from a rough and tumble background, but I was hoping for a Rogue One palette. The various shades of brown made it more drab and ugly. This is definitely showing franchise fatigue. Lucasfilm needs to cut back on a yearly strategy and make one every 2 years, or do a thorough quality check before cranking out yearly films. Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Hang on, why should Marvel crank out three films a year, but SW must only release one every two years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 SW is a bit more limited concept, innit? Karol Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Effeminate droids, radioactive spiders, whatsa difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Not a very enthusiastic review from the perpetual Star Wars fan, Chris Hartwell: And this is the guy that gave Attack of the Clones a 4/5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 I watched it with a friend who tends to enjoy almost everything. And he was really bored this time, to my utter surprise. I thought it was just me who found it really bland. It's not even terrible in any way, just really flat and lacking any emotion. I really didn't care. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: Not a very enthusiastic review from the perpetual Star Wars fan, Chris Hartwell: And this is the guy that gave Attack of the Clones a 4/5! Many of these YouTube pseudo critics have been on the warpath against Disney and Lucasfilm since TLJ. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Not Chris. He's a legit film-school professor, and he's a huge fan of the recent Star Wars films. The Last Jedi was his 5th favorite film last year. That's not to say that he is to be taken as a gospel. His tastes are not entirely mainstream (like I said, he gave Attack of the Clones 4/5), but his opinion is a nice reference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Margo Channing said: Hang on, why should Marvel crank out three films a year, but SW must only release one every two years? I think Marvel is overdoing it too. The maximum they should crank out a year is two -- they avoid overkill and lets the competition have more space. But another thing about Marvel is that Kevin Feige is letting filmmakers take risks while Kathy Kennedy rigidly plays it safe. This is the second Lucasfilm SW spinoff that needed extensive reshoots and tinkering in post-production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Well you know what women are like, indecisive and never happy with anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, Matt C said: I think Marvel is overdoing it too. The maximum they should crank out a year is two -- they avoid overkill and lets the competition have more space. But another thing about Marvel is that Kevin Feige is letting filmmakers take risks while Kathy Kennedy rigidly plays it safe. This is the second Lucasfilm SW spinoff that needed extensive reshoots and tinkering in post-production. I think Kathy is delivering more ambitious films - bigger in scope size and complexity. Atleast the first 3 star Wars films she delivered. Though I think solo is a dud. Feige's films apart from avengers are not on the same scale. A. A. Ron and Indianagirl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 53 minutes ago, Matt C said: But another thing about Marvel is that Kevin Feige is letting filmmakers take risks while Kathy Kennedy rigidly plays it safe. Does he? I would say its the other way. Its Marvel where the studio is stifling the various directors' into a certain, bland, Marvel aesthetic: basic coverage, high-key lighting, hightened designs, abudant humor, etc - all for fear of undermining the cinematic universe's continuity from an aesthetic standpoint. Lucasfilm, however, let the filmmakers do their thing: Both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi are the products of the respective directors and screenwriters. But because the 21st century audience is used to the Marvel sense of continuity or The Lord of the Rings one (where all entries are made simultaneously by the same production team), when they recieve two films that couldn't be further apart aesthetically as The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi are - they riot. 9 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: I think Kathy is delivering more ambitious films - bigger in scope size and complexity. Atleast the first 3 star Wars films she delivered. Kinda. The majority of Marvel's output really does belong in the action-comedy genre: very light entertainment without any profundity. Star Wars isn't like that, and as such is held to a higher standard. Holko, Indianagirl, Arpy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Marvel ambitious and risk taking? Wut? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,319 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 15 minutes ago, Chen G. said: Does he? I would say its the other way. Its Marvel where the studio is stifling the various directors' into a certain, bland, Marvel aesthetic: basic coverage, high-key lighting, hightened designs, abudant humor, etc - all for fear of undermining the cinematic universe's continuity from an aesthetic standpoint. Lucasfilm, however, let the filmmakers do their thing: Both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi are the products of the respective directors and screenwriters. But because the 21st century audience is used to the Marvel sense of continuity or The Lord of the Rings one (where all entries are made simultaneously by the same production team), when they recieve two films that couldn't be further apart aesthetically as The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi are - they riot. Kinda. The majority of Marvel's output really does belong in the action-comedy genre: very light entertainment without any profundity. Star Wars isn't like that, and as such is held to a higher standard. We're on a unity ticket with this opinion, Chen. I know we don't always see eye to eye, but you're spot on here. The mere concept that Marvel are "risk-taking" is laughable. As you rightly point out, their films are so bland and safe, it's nauseating. While the Disney SW films might be hit and miss under Kennedy, they're taking some pretty significant risks and allowing a surprising degree of independence to their filmmakers. Last Jedi, love it or hate it, was NOT what the fanbase expected. And the first standalone resulted in the main characters all dying at the end. Of the major dramas Kennedy has dealt with: Josh Trank was quite clearly unfit to helm a major motion picture of this scale Gareth Edwards quite clearly delivered a film filled with thoroughly generic and uninteresting characters (just as he did with Godzilla) and they decided to add some levity to the precedings so audiences might actually give a flying fuck about their sacrifice at the end The original Solo directors? Well, who knows, but it seems like they were totally out of their depth as well, if not taking the piss Marvel is practically the definition of risk-averse. Kasey Kockroach, Arpy and Indianagirl 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: Kinda. The majority of Marvel's output really does belong in the action-comedy genre: very light entertainment without any profundity. Star Wars isn't like that, and as such is held to a higher standard. Oh gimme a break. They're all friggin' kids movies, not some dark and disturbing indie arthouse filums. A. A. Ron, mstrox and Sharkissimo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Margo Channing said: Well you know what women are like, indecisive and never happy with anything. This is a problem I have exclusively with Kennedy. 1 hour ago, TheUlyssesian said: I think Kathy is delivering more ambitious films - bigger in scope size and complexity. Atleast the first 3 star Wars films she delivered. Though I think solo is a dud. Feige's films apart from avengers are not on the same scale. 4 Feige is on the same page with directors in terms of tone and what they want to do. For some reason, Kennedy isn't, at least with vetting the spinoff directors or damage control. Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 6 hours ago, Chen G. said: His tastes are not entirely mainstream (like I said, he gave Attack of the Clones 4/5), but his opinion is a nice reference. The opinion of anyone who rates Attack of the Clones 4 out of 5 is immediately null in my book. I say this having not watched the most recent video posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Attack of the Clones is a perfect 5-star movie. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 5 out of 10, sure! Mattris, mstrox and Bayesian 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 More like out of twenty! Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 26, 2018 I found Anakin very realistic and relatable how he'd start sweating and stammering in front of a beautiful woman. Kasey Kockroach, Holko, Arpy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 14 hours ago, Matt C said: I think Marvel is overdoing it too. The maximum they should crank out a year is two -- they avoid overkill and lets the competition have more space. But another thing about Marvel is that Kevin Feige is letting filmmakers take risks while Kathy Kennedy rigidly plays it safe. This is the second Lucasfilm SW spinoff that needed extensive reshoots and tinkering in post-production. Taking more risks than usual to course-correct the overall stale quality of the films. Before Doctor Strange nearly all of the MCU films lacked any stylistic qualities and appeared to be the product of a committee of suits. Are they terrible films, devoid of fun or heart? No, but they never tried to make that a prerogative from the beginning, they are cinematic adaptations of comic books in every sense of the word 'cinematic' and in that translation they lost the style and what made each superhero unique and individual. Oh, and the reshoots were a problem that was multifaceted from the beginning. Star Wars is a huge franchise and has a huge legacy behind it - one of the reasons TFA worked so well is that I think it took what it needed, revamped what should be and paid respect to the original mythos of Lucas's Star Wars. Kathleen Kennedy et al. are the guardians of that legacy and are bloody well sure not to drop the ball when it comes to where the heart of these films are coming from. Rogue One had a near impossible task to fill, it was the first standalone film and from the beginning there was conflict in what the tone of the film was to be without sacrificing the core themes and imagery of the universe. In the case of Solo, it was clear that Miller and Lord were butting heads with Kasdan's script and vision and that they didn't seem to be taking their work seriously. Reshoots are a necessity these days, but should be taken as a sign that the filmmakers, Edwards, Johnson and Howard were keen to keep to Lucasfilms ideals and not let it go to the dogs if it did fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 13 hours ago, crumbs said: Gareth Edwards quite clearly delivered a film filled with thoroughly generic and uninteresting characters (just as he did with Godzilla) and they decided to add some levity to the precedings so audiences might actually give a flying fuck about their sacrifice at the end I think you really have no clue how movies are made. The script - which Edwards has nothing to do with - either sucked or worked and judging the end result, it sucked royally. Whatever they fixed by firing Edwards either didn't need fixing or probably made it worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 22 hours ago, crocodile said: And he was really bored this time, to my utter surprise. I thought it was just me who found it really bland. It's not even terrible in any way, just really flat and lacking any emotion. I really didn't care. You've pretty much described almost every film that ends with the words "Directed by Ron Howard". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Apollo 13, Willow, Parenthood, Ransom etc etc are fine films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 'Splash', really. I'd prefer trashy stuff like 'The Grinch' (or even recent ones like 'Rush# or 'Frost/Nixon') before i watch another award-safe borefest like 'Apollo 13' or 'Beautiful Mind' but at least he has a good idea what music can and should contribute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Apollo 13, Willow, Parenthood, Ransom etc etc are fine films If by "fine", you mean decent and competent, then yes. All Howard's films are that. Competently directed and technically proficient. None of them are in the gutter, but none of them soar either. I don't have hate any of those movies. I don't love any of them either. They're "fine." He generally doesn't make bad films, he just doesn't make great ones. If he has a "style", I'm unaware of it. He's the king of mediocrities...the Salieri of the film word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 A Beautiful Mind won Best Picture, so I guess it's his best movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I'd say Apollo 13 is his best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 But Apollo 13 didn't win Best Picture... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 It was too good for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Only Best Picture winners matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 You mean for scorn and headshaking 5 years after the fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 27 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'd say Apollo 13 is his best. Better than Parenthood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I can't remember if I've seen that one. But of all the ones I've seen, Apollo 13 is indeed the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Ron Howard's best movie? Easy. filmmusic and Bilbo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Why the French poster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 13 minutes ago, Nick1066 said: Ron Howard's best movie? Easy. Its certainly underrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Thats' spanish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 ¿Qué? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 30 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Why the French poster? Because it has the magic lasers flying out of the little wizard’s wand, proving once and for all that Rowling’s a THIEF. mstrox and Matt C 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 25 minutes ago, Stefancos said: ¿Qué? The poster is not french, it is spanish Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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