Luke Skywalker 2,044 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 48 minutes ago, Jay said: Sadly, no. The sheet music leak only has versions with the re-used passages photocopied in in place of whatever was originally there. In fact, it's possible the original passages were never orchestrated and only exist on JW's original sketches. Orchestrated cues must exist if the story is true: If musicians were struggling trying to play the cues...the photocopies must have been made during the recording sessions... wouldn't them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,830 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Here's a suggestion, in no way meant to be condescending: why not spend a bit of time to learn to read music notation? You're a musical person and will learn it in no time. The best way to learn it is through learning to play an instrument. May I suggest the piano, since that's a one-man orchestra in itself. Early this year I just picked up Doug's LotR book and a free online virtual piano (with no real musical education basis) and started trying to play motifs, looking up symbols like keys and semitones and stuff when it didn't sound right. I was quite proud of some of them but the virtual piano's limitations were hard to work around - semitones were only accessible when holding shift+the key, so more complex chords were just impossible unless I recorded them in multiple passes one note at a time, etc.. Even so, I picked up basic stuff in no time. Falstaft and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,044 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, ChrisAfonso said: Doesn't this motif even open the first track of JP3? This is such a signature sound for JP (also featured strongly in the moments leading up to the "theme" part in Journey to the Island) that for me it's as evocative of dinosaurs as the low e-f ostinato is of sharks... To me it represents also the breathing purr of the raptors. Falstaft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,193 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, ChrisAfonso said: Doesn't this motif even open the first track of JP3? This is such a signature sound for JP (also featured strongly in the moments leading up to the "theme" part in Journey to the Island) that for me it's as evocative of dinosaurs as the low e-f ostinato is of sharks... It absolutely does! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 219 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Thi 14 minutes ago, ChrisAfonso said: Doesn't this motif even open the first track of JP3? This is such a signature sound for JP (also featured strongly in the moments leading up to the "theme" part in Journey to the Island) that for me it's as evocative of dinosaurs as the low e-f ostinato is of sharks... This motif appears in a few places in JP. There are a few statements before the big grandiose theme for the Brachiosaurs in "Journey to the Island". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 40,605 Posted May 18, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2021 OK here are the spots in The Lost World score where there are re-used passages in place of whatever JW originally intended [5M3/6M1 Part II Horning In] 3-09 Spilling Petrol and Horning In 3:52-4:15 ≈ [8M2 Truck Stop] 3-13 Rescuing Sarah 3:18-3:55 ≈ [10M1 Rialto Ripples] 4-01 Ripples 3:34-4:08 This was clearly written for 8M2 Truck Stop (bars 110-129) and later repurposed into both 5M3/6M1 Part II Horning In and 10M1 Rialto Ripples In the 5M3/6M1 Part II sheet music, you will see that: page 1 (bars 1-4) is fine page 2 (should be bars 5-8) only has bars 5-7, with the 4th bar slot on the page scribbled out page 3 (should be bars 9-12) has the first bar scribbled out and then you can see the obvious photocopying in from page 28 (bars 110-112) of 8M2, with their bar numbers changed to now be 8-10 (also the percussion part is different and not photocopied) page 4 (should be bars 13-16) is really page 29 (bars 113-116) of 8M2 renumbered to be bars 11-14 - you can even still see 8M2 on the top of the page crossed out page 5 (should be bars 17-20) is really page 30 (bars 117-120 of 8M2 renumbered to be bars 15-18 page 6 (should be bars 21-24) is really the first 2 bars from page 31 (bars 121-122 of 8M2 renumbered to be bars 19-20, followed by 2 scribbled out bars page 7 (should be bars 25-28) is now bars 21-24 (originally page 6), and that's how the rest of the cue goes (each page number increased by 1 from where they were before the change) In the 10M1 sheet music, you will see that: pages 1-26 (bars 1-104) are fine page 27 (should be bars 105-108) only has bars 105-107, with the 4th bar slot on the page scribbled out page 28 (should be bars 109-112) has the first bar scribbled out and then you can see the obvious photocopying in from page 28 (bars 110-112) of 8M2, with their bar numbers changed to now be 108-110 (also the percussion part is different and not photocopied) page 29 (should be bars 113-116) is a photocopy of page 29 (bars 113-116) of 8M2 renumbered to be bars 111-114 page 30 (should be bars 117-120) is a photocopy of page 30 (bars 117-120) of 8M2 renumbered to be bars 115-118 page 31 (should be bars 121-124) is a photocopy of page 31 (bars 121-124) of 8M2 renumbered to be bars 119-122 page 32 (should be bars 125-128) is a photocopy of page 32 (bars 125-128) of 8M2 renumbered to be bars 123-126 page 33 (should be bars 129-132) has a photocopy of bar 129 from 8M2 renumbered to be bar 127, then a single bar from 10M1 (presumably the actual bar 128), then 2 scribbled out bars page 34 (should be bars 133-136) is now bars 129-132 (originally page 33), and that's how the rest of the cue goes (each page number increased by 1 from where they were before the change) [11M2 The Raptors Appear] 4-04 The Raptors Appear 3:26-end ≈ [11M3/12M1 High Bar and Ceiling Tiles] 4-05 High Bar and Ceiling Tiles 2:22-2:32 This was clearly written for 11M2 The Raptors Appear (bars 85-104) and later repurposed into 11M3/12M1 High Bar and Ceiling Tiles In the 11M3/12M1 sheet music, you will see that: pages 1-18 (bars 1-72) are fine page 19 (should be bars 73-76) is slightly altered to allow a 77th bar to fit in after bar 76, so the page now has bars 73-77 page 20 (should be bars 77-80, but now bars 78-81) is actually an amalgam of partially re-written / partially photocopied elements from bars 85-86 and also 97-100 from 11M2 page 21 (should be bars 81-84, but now bars 82-85) is just a photocopy of page 26 (bars 101-104) from 11M2, except for the percussion section which is slightly different, and the bars are renumbered page 22 (should be bars 85-88), but now bars 86-88) only has material on 3 bars with the 4th bar scribbled out, to resume normal bar numbering starting with page 23 [12M5 Monster On The Loose] 4-09 Monster on the Loose 0:50-1:13 ≈ [13M1 A Neighborhood Visitor] 4-10 Visitor in San Diego 2:10-2:42 This one is a little different, because there is no photocopying, and no weird bar/page renumbering. It is therefore possible that Williams always intended to make these 2 passages (bars 15-22 of 12M5 and bars 45-56 of 13M1) similar on purpose It is also possible that this was another hasty change, but they chose to re-write the identical instrument lines instead of photocopying anything It's probably worth noting that the original source of these passages (Truck Stop, Raptors Appear, Neighborhood Visitor) were all on the OST album, while the none of the cues that ended up re-using bits (Horning In, Rialto Ripples, High Bar and Ceiling Tiles, Monster on the Loose) were on the OST album (except for the first 95 seconds of Rialto Ripples) ragoz350, crumbs, Falstaft and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,882 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, Holko said: Early this year I just picked up Doug's LotR book and a free online virtual piano (with no real musical education basis) and started trying to play motifs, looking up symbols like keys and semitones and stuff when it didn't sound right. I was quite proud of some of them but the virtual piano's limitations were hard to work around - semitones were only accessible when holding shift+the key, so more complex chords were just impossible unless I recorded them in multiple passes one note at a time, etc.. Even so, I picked up basic stuff in no time. That's great! You could also purchase a cheap, small midi keyboard and connect to the PC if you want to have keys to play on. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,830 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's great! You could also purchase a cheap, small midi keyboard and connect to the PC if you want to have keys to play on. Yep, I might do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 219 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Am I right in saying the Danger Theme is just the four note motif representing the TRex etc. Or is there something more than four notes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 Just the 4 notes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisAfonso 207 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 57 minutes ago, Jay said: OK here are the spots in The Lost World score where they re-used passages they knew the musicians could play instead of whatever JW originally intended 3-09 Spilling Petrol and Horning In [5M3/6M1 Part II Horning In] 3:52-4:01 ≈ 3-13 Rescuing Sarah [8M2 Truck Stop] 1:15-1:21 This was originally written for 8M2, in bars 110-122. You can see in the 5M3/6M1 Part II sheet music that: page 1 (bars 1-4) is fine page 2 (should be bars 5-8) actually only has bars 5-7, then the original bar 8 is scribbled out page 3 (should be bars 9-12), the original bar 9 is scribbled out and then you can see the obvious photocopying in of bars 110-112 of 8M2, though the percussion part of bar 8 is different (and the bar numbers are changed to now be bars 8-10) [...] 3-13 Rescuing Sarah [8M2 Truck Stop] 3:18-3:29 ≈ 4-01 Ripples [10M1 Rialto Ripples] 3:34-3:44 This was clearly written for 8M2 and later repurposed into into 10M1 These passages get stranger the longer you look at them. What you describe is actually the same passage from "Rescuing Sarah" (3:18), up to 3:42 (3:52-4:15 in "Horning In"), respectively 3:54 (3:34-4:08 in "Ripples") in the sheet music, but only "Horning in" contains bars 110-112 as written - the other two have an extra prominent line in the horns that doesn't show up anywhere in the written score. "Ripples" b114-115 (3:44-3:46) has the horn rips omitted that are heard in the other two places. (Rescuing Sarah 1:15-1:21 is a similar, but different passage) I'm curious where the "Passages copied due to performance problems" story comes from? - I'd guess it takes less time to rehearse a passage and do a few more takes than to change the score around, copy and distribute the parts again. Also the "scribbled out" bars before and after the copypasted segment look like they didn't contain anything beforehand and were already laid out that way to line up with the page breaks of the inserted bars. Without any additional inside knowledge, this looks like a planned repetition to me, e.g. to adapt to a re-cut film scene. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 18 hours ago, ChrisAfonso said: These passages get stranger the longer you look at them. What you describe is actually the same passage from "Rescuing Sarah" (3:18), up to 3:42 (3:52-4:15 in "Horning In"), respectively 3:54 (3:34-4:08 in "Ripples") in the sheet music, but only "Horning in" contains bars 110-112 as written - the other two have an extra prominent line in the horns that doesn't show up anywhere in the written score. "Ripples" b114-115 (3:44-3:46) has the horn rips omitted that are heard in the other two places. (Rescuing Sarah 1:15-1:21 is a similar, but different passage) You're right, I fixed up my post Quote I'm curious where the "Passages copied due to performance problems" story comes from? Great question! I honestly don't remember, and I don't think it would have been mentioned in the LLL booklet that JW & co would have approved. I'll have to do some googling to see where I first read about that. Maybe it's a rumor that isn't actually true - I dunno! Quote - I'd guess it takes less time to rehearse a passage and do a few more takes than to change the score around, copy and distribute the parts again. 20 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: Orchestrated cues must exist if the story is true: If musicians were struggling trying to play the cues...the photocopies must have been made during the recording sessions... wouldn't them? Sorry, I realize I wasn't clear. The story I read (or at least, the way I remember it) was that the orchestra struggled with some of the earliest cues recorded - but they did get through it, it just took a while. So then ahead of subsequent recording days, JW changed some tricky passages before they ever got a chance to even attempt them. And he changed them to passages from cues they had already laid down that he knew they could do again, rather than writing something new. Quote Also the "scribbled out" bars before and after the copypasted segment look like they didn't contain anything beforehand and were already laid out that way to line up with the page breaks of the inserted bars. Without any additional inside knowledge, this looks like a planned repetition to me, e.g. to adapt to a re-cut film scene. What I'm speculating is that in JW's original sketch for 5M3/6M1 Part II, there would have been an actual original passage we've never heard from bars 8-20. But that during the orchestration process, the orchestrators were instructed to not orchestrate those bars, but to instead photocopy the pages containing bars 110-122 of 8M2 (which were already orchestrated from a prior day's recording session) instead. So yea, I guess my little bit about page 7 becoming page 6 wouldn't be accurate in this case, and I'll word that better ChrisAfonso 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 219 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I thought these kind of session musicians could sight read anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,183 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Music's hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, stravinsky said: I thought these kind of session musicians could sight read anything? Reading is just the start, being physically able to play it (well) might not be so easy, depending on what's written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 5 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: 4-10 Visitor in san Diego: 2:50-2:58. Nice catch! Added! Plus, I completely revised the entire theme post with better descriptions and formatting, and more timestamps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,403 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 8 hours ago, stravinsky said: I thought these kind of session musicians could sight read anything? You still have to rehearse it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,882 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Not if you're based in Prague and don't get paid for rehearsing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,403 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Prague does just fine , Mr. Conductor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Added more detail to the post about re-used passages last night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,376 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 @Jay definitely let us know if you remember the source for that rumor. I admit it seems unlikely to me - LA studio musicians are truly cream of the crop, and Williams has a very extensive understanding of what's playable on each instrument. I don't deny that the bars in question were photocopied, but that's very common. It typically just results from C.S. (come sopra) indications in the sketch, where the composer calls for existing material to be reused. But then again, stranger things have happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 Yea, I really can't remember where or how I read it. I tried doing some brief googling last night but it's kind of hard to google for something like that. I think I most likely read it here on JWFan, though I doubt whoever posted it provided a source or anything, so who knows, it could all be untrue. I dunno I'll see if I can find anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 Presumably JW's original manuscripts would have the original passages, right? I wonder how he handles revisions and so forth in those leather-bound books? Maybe they just get stuffed at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 As @Datameister just mentioned, they would have original passages if they exist, but would have indications of what to copy from other cues if they were planned to be that way all along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,504 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 23 minutes ago, crumbs said: I wonder how he handles revisions and so forth in those leather-bound books? Maybe they just get stuffed at the end. What we need to do is make sure that a JWFan has access to them at Juilliard after the inevitable happens. I'd bet that @Falstaft would be able to manage it! I'm not suggesting any illegal distribution of materials, just a report of what's in there! crumbs and Falstaft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,830 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 I hear @BrotherSoundmade plans already! Falstaft and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 19, 2021 Author Share Posted May 19, 2021 OK, finally found one reference to what I'm talking about! On 11/26/2016 at 2:40 PM, Sharkissimo said: Allegedly the orchestra and the Latin drum ensemble found Truck Stop/Rescuing Sarah extremely challenging, and John got a little frustrated on the podium, so maybe they had to resort to multiple takes on other cues. On 11/26/2016 at 2:43 PM, Incanus said: So does that mean that Williams repurposed/reused some of the action material from the Truck Stop for the Rialto Ripples with just minor changes then? On 11/26/2016 at 2:46 PM, Josh500 said: Yeah, I've read it too somewhere. The orchestra reportedly had a really tough time getting some of the cues, especially the percussion heavy cues, right. The orchestra had to play some of pieces over and over and over again.... I'm thinking "Sarah's Rescue" and "Ripples" were just two of these. I'll keep digging for more! Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,044 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 21 hours ago, Jay said: Sorry, I realize I wasn't clear. The story I read (or at least, the way I remember it) was that the orchestra struggled with some of the earliest cues recorded - but they did get through it, it just took a while. So then ahead of subsequent recording days, JW changed some tricky passages before they ever got a chance to even attempt them. And he changed them to passages from cues they had already laid down that he knew they could do again, rather than writing something new. Oh, I see. Shame we may never see the original work... BTW... He kind of pulled a "Star Wars Prequels treatment of the music" there Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,376 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: OK, finally found one reference to what I'm talking about! I'll keep digging for more! Very interesting. The percussion parts aren't hard enough to require any insane technical chops (other than simple endurance)...if that rumor is true, I feel like it would probably be one or both of the following: The percussionists weren't grooving the way Williams wanted, and they had to try different variations The balance/mix was tough to get right I have a much easier time imagining the orchestra or conductor getting lost in something like "Rolling With Grievous" - you've got the time signature changing at almost every measure. TLW's drum grooves are pretty repetitive and easy by comparison (but super effective!). Again, though, I could be wrong here. BrotherSound and Falstaft 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,419 Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 That's really interesting - I wonder whether there was a transition from 'laser-focused' Williams getting more and more frustrated that the orchestra was having trouble, to a possible realisation that he'd written something too tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Josh500 1,617 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 On 5/19/2021 at 12:34 PM, Jay said: OK, finally found one reference to what I'm talking about! I'll keep digging for more! I stated this a couple of times here over the years, and I still remember where I first got this information, too! Back in 1997, when the OST album of TLW was released, I got the Japanese version. While everything else was the same as the regular Western version (cardboard case, 3D Dinorama, etc.), the Japanese edition had one big difference: it included a special little booklet with tons of info, although, naturally, it was all in Japanese. It contained no pics at all, it was just a little booklet with text, maybe around 10 pages. I managed to get it translated back then, and while most ot it was general information about JW, his life and career, as well as a short overview of the Making of TLW, it also talked a little about the recording sessions. And that's where I got this info... How the percussionists that were called in struggled with some of the more complex passages and how JW had them perform it over and over again until they were all but getting ready to throw in the towel! I don't think it referred to any particular passage, though, I just assumed for myself that it's gotta be "Sarah's Rescue." I forgot what else was said, but that's one piece of info that's somehow always stuck in my memory. I wish I still had that booklet, but I lost it many years ago, of course. Hell, that was almost a quarter of a century ago, I was in my early teens! Edit: What do you know, these days if you look hard enough, you can find almost anything on the Internet. From a Japanese online auction site, pics of the Japanese TLW booklet... Smeltington, Incanus and fommes 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 Fascinating!!! If you can find your copy and post pictures of that japanese booklet, that'd be great! We should be able to automatically translate it with OCR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,669 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Somebody buy it! https://www.discogs.com/sell/release/10919349 https://www.ebay.com/itm/324635905010?hash=item4b95cecbf2:g:98YAAOSwnohgp59t https://www.ebay.com/itm/123470729737?hash=item1cbf6dd209:g:jqIAAOSwELBb4F7G Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 Yikes! I'd genuinely buy it for up to maybe $30, but not for those prices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TSMefford 1,552 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 10 minutes ago, Smeltington said: Somebody buy it! Okay sure. I don't own this on disc. So...sure. Why the hell not? See you guys in June. Chewy, Smeltington, Holko and 2 others 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,669 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Well shit! I hope it's the same edition! TSMefford and Josh500 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,605 Posted May 21, 2021 Author Share Posted May 21, 2021 Amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,552 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, Smeltington said: Well shit! I hope it's the same edition! Same here. LOL. It sure looks the same as the other listing which says Quote Comes housed in a unique 'dinorama' cardboarddigipak with fold-out 3D artwork, information on four of the dinosaur species featured in the film & a promo stickered wraparound tracklist obi MVCE-24011 We'll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Pretty sure the most interesting info in that booklet is the one I already mentioned... Otherwise I'd still remember it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,552 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Josh500 said: Pretty sure the most interesting info in that booklet is the one I already mentioned... Otherwise I'd still remember it mself. Still is cool to have and would be nice to have the whole booklet translated Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 38 minutes ago, Jay said: Fascinating!!! If you can find your copy and post pictures of that japanese booklet, that'd be great! We should be able to automatically translate it with OCR Nah, I definitely don't have it anymore. I actually had to rebuy most of my earliest JW CDs because they were so badly scratched (I didn't know how to take care of my stuff back then!).... And TLW was one of them. The replacement was most definitely not the Japanese version. Just now, TSMefford said: Still is cool to have and would be nice to have the whole booklet translated That's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smeltington 1,669 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Josh500 said: Nah, I definitely don't have it anymore. You better not find it now. That would be a terrible way to repay TSMefford for his sacrifice! I hope it's not like, just one really vague sentence about the scoring sessions that comes out weirdly translated. TSMefford's Noble End TSMefford, Chewy and Josh500 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,146 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Weren't all the percussion elements recorded separately on TLW anyway? I thought someone recorded the percussion-only tracks off a speaker at Universal Studios. That would've been a cool bonus feature on the LLL! I assume Mike tried and JW nixed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,552 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 5 minutes ago, Smeltington said: TSMefford's Noble End I'm sure it'll be more worth it than the time I bought the Pan's Labyrinth FYC and it wouldn't even play in any CD player. Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Smeltington and Chewy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Smeltington said: You better not find it now. That would be a terrible way to repay TSMefford for his sacrifice! I hope it's not like, just one really vague sentence about the scoring sessions that comes out weirdly translated. TSMefford's Noble End Like I said, I doubt there's much more than that. If there was something else noteworthy, I'm pretty certain I'd remember it! It was just a little booklet that was added to the Japanese edition, probably because it was felt there that the original version was a bit too meager and lacking.... But there's another issue. I'm not even sure this little booklet is still included today. That's what they did in 1997, back when it was just released. But I don't wanna be negative, I guess anything is possible! TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,552 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Guess we'll find out! Either way, I got the OST on a disc, so that's cool. Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,882 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I've got a Japanese edition, but it's a reprint and with a black obi instead of a yellow one. And there's no Japanese booklet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,617 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 39 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: I've got a Japanese edition, but it's a reprint and with a black obi instead of a yellow one. And there's no Japanese booklet. Seriously? Well, that's what I suspected. If one really wants that old booklet, one has to go on these auction sites and actually buy the old release from 1997 or thereabouts.... It'd definitely be not an easy undertaking. Like hunting down the First Edition of a classic novel or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,882 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 Yeah, seriously. I suspect all copies that have a yellow obi are the original Japanese release and come with the booklet. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smeltington 1,669 Posted May 21, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2021 Ooohhh the suspense!! I have to say this is the most exciting thing to happen on JWFan in some time. Chewy, Josh500, TSMefford and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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