igger6 978 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 On 5/24/2021 at 7:42 AM, Jurassic Shark said: And what glorious 14 seconds! EDIT: I really meant it, @igger6. It's a great way to start the piece. No, I totally agree—assuming we're talking about the same alternate intro that's also used in this recording. I just found the comment amusing. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 1 minute ago, igger6 said: No, I totally agree—assuming we're talking about the same alternate intro that's also used in this recording. I just found the comment amusing. That's indeed the intro, but preferably played by a different orchestra. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 The opening in that video is different and NOT the alternate opening JW recorded at The Lost World sessions. That is on the set as disc 4, track 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Then it's indeed not the intro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 978 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Dang. Is it online anywhere? I'm one of the great unwashed who missed that release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Did the FSO add the few bars of percussion at the beginning? It's a long time since I listened to JW's alternate. 1 minute ago, igger6 said: Dang. Is it online anywhere? I'm one of the great unwashed who missed that release. €199.99 + shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, igger6 said: Dang. Is it online anywhere? I'm one of the great unwashed who missed that release. It's also in the film itself, in the end credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 So who wrote the intro the FSO plays? I actually prefer that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 It's a third intro that JW wrote for the official sheet music release, so it's what any orchestra would get if they officially licensed it for performance Here's another performance of it and another It's also been recorded by Kunzel for a CD: but that one doesn't seem to be on youtube. John Williams conducted this opening in London, in 1998, and a recording of that used to be on youtube I think, but I can't find it now. It's probably floating around as bootleg mp3 crumbs and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,155 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Such a tremendous shame it wasn't included on the third Spielberg/Williams album. What a total no-brainer that was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 Seriously Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, Jay said: It's also been recorded by Kunzel for a CD: Yeah, that's the one I'm familiar with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 10,866 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Huh, sounds like the Lawrence of Arabia overture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 219 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Can anyone explain why 13M2 was combined with 13M3/14M1 on JP cos its just a bummer they are not separate tracks. Or did they play out like this in the movie? Years since I've seen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted May 27, 2021 Author Share Posted May 27, 2021 Yes, the LLL album track has the same space (or lack there of) between each cue that the film itself does. See for yourself (play button should bring you to just before the cue segue): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stravinsky 219 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 At the moment reading the breakdown of TLW by Incanus. Completely excellent and a great way to aquaint myself with this stunning music. The recorded sound is phenomenal. This score is as dense as a Bruckner Symphony and I'll have to listen 30 or 40 times or even more to learn it by heart. I hope there's a similar score analysis of Jurrasic Park coming soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,270 Posted July 17, 2021 Share Posted July 17, 2021 2:06 of Tranquillizer Dart and End Credits (film version), that drum roll that leads into the JP theme, is that taken from the same track Jurassic Park Theme (End Credits), that is also on that album? They sound very similar and I was wondering if it was? Sorry if its been discussed before, I can't seem to find an answer anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,621 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 7 hours ago, Brando said: 2:06 of Tranquillizer Dart and End Credits (film version), that drum roll that leads into the JP theme, is that taken from the same track Jurassic Park Theme (End Credits), that is also on that album? They sound very similar and I was wondering if it was? Sorry if its been discussed before, I can't seem to find an answer anywhere. Yes I think so. Mike even attempted to isolate those drums from the other instruments, I think. Never been a big fan of that track, but at least we've got a good edit that matches what's heard in the movie. When you think about it, it's not typically something we get on MM expansions, still wondering why he chose to do it here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,270 Posted July 18, 2021 Share Posted July 18, 2021 13 hours ago, Chewy said: Yes I think so. Mike even attempted to isolate those drums from the other instruments, I think. Never been a big fan of that track, but at least we've got a good edit that matches what's heard in the movie. When you think about it, it's not typically something we get on MM expansions, still wondering why he chose to do it here! Yeah, i was listening to the film and i noticed the drum roll wasn't present. So I was like oh whatever, Kenny probably dialed it out. Then one day i was in the shower listening to the Jurassic Park Theme (End Credits) from TLW's album and around 2:48, the drum roll is there, and i haven't compared the tracks, but I wanna say the rest of that is the same as Tranquillizer Dart and End Credits (film version), as the piano ends and the JP theme begins. The only thing is, there's an extra instrument over the drums, so maybe MM found a way to remove it and attach just the drums to it. It'd be cool if we had some confirmation about it. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 5,478 Posted July 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2021 Things we know well, but explained beautifully. pete, Bayesian and Chewy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 1,039 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Maybe this has been mentioned before: the music between the T-Rex's triumphant roar and the end credits, is it tracked from earlier in the score? Or an unreleased few seconds? It does sound a little familiar. Listening again, yeah, I'm sure it's part of the quieter moments - the sick dinosaur maybe. Anyway, I hadn't noticed there was music there before.... Got it: Petticoat Lane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,155 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 4 minutes ago, pete said: Maybe this has been mentioned before: the music between the T-Rex's triumphant roar and the end credits, is it tracked from earlier in the score? Or an unreleased few seconds? It does sound a little familiar. Listening again, yeah, I'm sure it's part of the quieter moments - the sick dinosaur maybe. Anyway, I hadn't noticed there was music there before.... Yeah, it's tracked from Remembering Petticoat Lane. I assume they spotted that scene with no music then Spielberg changed his mind after the sessions were finished. Or they decided in advance to track the music there (weird it wasn't re-recorded though!) pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 1,039 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Thanks - I was just listening to that when you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted July 19, 2021 Author Share Posted July 19, 2021 It's tracked in from "Remembering Petticoat Lane" and it's like that in the actual film too, that isn't something they invented for the live to projection show EDIT: Ninja'd 6 minutes ago, crumbs said: I assume they spotted that scene with no music then Spielberg changed his mind after the sessions were finished. Or they decided in advance to track the music there (weird it wasn't re-recorded though!) Spielberg was busy shooting Schindler's List, all the music tinkering in the theatrical cut was from when George Lucas was overseeing post-production in his absence pete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,270 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Not sure if its been discussed, I couldn't find it, but has anyone ever noticed a small portion of "Raptors Appear" shows up in "Visitor In San Diego"? I was re-watching that scene and noticed the music didn't match, and I do believe some of the original track was replaced. Anyone know what I'm talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted July 31, 2021 Author Share Posted July 31, 2021 Never noticed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,270 Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 Probably should've added in the clip. From there to about 0:45. Unless I'm hearing it wrong, it almost sounds like the jungle drums returns and then it switches back to "Visitor in San Diego". Just thought it was interesting and wondered if anyone else knew anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted August 2, 2021 Author Share Posted August 2, 2021 Yea, I hear it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marc 858 Posted August 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2021 Feel like hearing T-Rex To The Rescue with boosted Hns & Tpts ? Holko, Brundlefly, Jay and 10 others 5 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted August 4, 2021 Author Share Posted August 4, 2021 Amazing! Hot damn, that carnivore theme never sounds as good as it does in this cue Marc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 588 Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 16 hours ago, Marc said: Feel like hearing T-Rex To The Rescue with boosted Hns & Tpts ? OMG I love it! *dies* Marc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marc 858 Posted August 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2021 On 8/4/2021 at 4:56 PM, Jay said: Amazing! Hot damn, that carnivore theme never sounds as good as it does in this cue Indeed !! Especially during that part : The sheer INTENSITY of those 6 horns & 4 trumpets with the trombones and violin/woodwind parts underneath...it just blows me away every time Falstaft, ChrisAfonso and Jay 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,403 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 WTF?!😳😳😳😳😳 Chewy and GerateWohl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,050 Posted September 16, 2021 Share Posted September 16, 2021 Re-issue in 3, 2, 1….. Brundlefly 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marc 858 Posted November 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2021 My friend Andrew did this great analysis ! KittBash, ChrisAfonso, Smeltington and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittBash 306 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 With these both being released individually I'm reminded of a small issue I had with this boxset. NO not the Teeth They listed the performers in this set but they blended the list for both movies together making it very hard to see who worked on each. Very minor grumble indeed! This is a little frustrating as I've been working on a project compiling all of these folks, based on the liner notes, lists looking at things like who's played on the most Williams movies and seeing who makes up these orchestras that we love to listen to. Did the Later Jurassic 2CD set have the list in it? I'd love to see the list and correct my project if I can. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 2,270 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 43 minutes ago, KittBash said: Did the Later Jurassic 2CD set have the list in it? I'd love to see the list and correct my project if I can. I’m pretty sure it did, but I’m not home now so I can’t take a picture for you. KittBash 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 40,693 Posted August 4, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2023 3 hours ago, KittBash said: With these both being released individually I'm reminded of a small issue I had with this boxset. NO not the Teeth They listed the performers in this set but they blended the list for both movies together making it very hard to see who worked on each. Very minor grumble indeed! This is a little frustrating as I've been working on a project compiling all of these folks, based on the liner notes, lists looking at things like who's played on the most Williams movies and seeing who makes up these orchestras that we love to listen to. Did the Later Jurassic 2CD set have the list in it? I'd love to see the list and correct my project if I can. The box set had a list that blended the performers of both scores together The JP reissue has a list of only the performers who performed on JP The Lost World reissue has a list of only the performers who performed on The Lost World KittBash, Yavar Moradi, Brando and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 723 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 5 hours ago, Jay said: The JP reissue has a list of only the performers who performed on JP Whilst that might have been the intention, there is at least one apparent mistake in the JP reissue list: the credit for Guitar seems to have sneaked in from TLW list. We briefly discussed this in the JP reissue thread last November. @KittBash, great to hear you might be doing a spreadsheet/database of all JW OST performers. I was considering doing something similar myself but hadn’t yet got round to it. I look forward to seeing your version! Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share Posted August 4, 2023 10 hours ago, QuartalHarmony said: Whilst that might have been the intention, there is at least one apparent mistake in the JP reissue list: the credit for Guitar seems to have sneaked in from TLW list. We briefly discussed this in the JP reissue thread last November. Incorrect! The credit in the JP booklet for Dennis Budimir on guitar is correct. He was there on the last day so the AFM is properly crediting him. My speculation is that they had plans to record a source cue on the final day, maybe for the Dennis/Nedry scene that ultimately got scored by the licensed track "Las Gaviotas" in the final cut. Maybe they even rehearsed it, but they obviously never recorded it. So the AFM is correct to credit him and there's no mistake. And The Lost World features no guitar playing at all. The sound in "Reading The Map" that sounds like a fender bass guitar is actually synth! SpotTheDog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 723 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Good to know, thanks. Did you find that out since our discussion last year and, if so, how? I remember your ‘I dunno’ response back then, which has obviously changed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share Posted August 4, 2023 I'm good at my job! Davis and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Aren't you a SW developer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted August 4, 2023 Author Share Posted August 4, 2023 People can do two things. Sometimes, even more! enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 13,910 Posted August 4, 2023 Share Posted August 4, 2023 Not guys, I've been told. Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,050 Posted August 5, 2023 Share Posted August 5, 2023 Unreleased source music???? 😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted August 5, 2023 Author Share Posted August 5, 2023 On 04/08/2023 at 7:50 AM, Jay said: they obviously never recorded it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 2,050 Posted August 7, 2023 Share Posted August 7, 2023 Technically an unrecorded piece is unreleased… but yes i got your point. still it would have been cool to have a williams source music to merge directly with journey to the island Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 40,693 Posted August 7, 2023 Author Share Posted August 7, 2023 Well as I said, it's only my own random speculation. Maybe he was there for a completely different reason - who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 2,385 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 I'm sure that this has been answered somewhere but: Does this collection feature ANYTHING AT ALL that is NOT in the subsequent solo releases? I'm thinking of selling the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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