ocelot 508 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 22 hours ago, Marcus said: Certainly! There's quite a bit available on Spotify etc. You can also check out my website, www.marcuspaus.com Here's some stuff off YouTube: Love it. Thank you for sharing! That timpani concerto is fucking HOT!!!! Excuse my language 22 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Pencil and paper is underrated. I've only used Sibelius - is there any difference between the two? I've never used Sibelius but my friend Lior Rosner does and he hates Finale, lol. I think it's whatever you are used to. I think we are all derailing the topic at hand here. Maybe we should move all our own stuff into another thread/forum? And it's great to hear other people's work and support each other on here. It's a much more beautiful thing than arguing Jurassic Shark and Luka 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 8 minutes ago, ocelot said: Maybe we should move all our own stuff into another thread/forum? And it's great to hear other people's work and support each other on here. It's a much more beautiful thing than arguing Agreed. Here's the composer's thread: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I'm so excited for Episode IX! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: I'm so excited for Episode IX! Me too, especially after the controversy over this last one, lol.... Can't wait for the Solo theme too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 How long prior to release could we expect the title to be revealed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Force Awakens - 11/6/14 (December 2015 release) Rogue One - 3/12/15 (December 2016 release) Last Jedi - 1/23/17 (December 2017 release) Solo - 10/17/17 (May 2018 release) No strict pattern but probably not til next year Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Somebody still needs to add Star Wars, Episode IX on the list of "Upcoming Projects" on the main page... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 it's only confirmed by Williams, not by Disney! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 True that. No worries, I'll step it and do it. Well, maybe a scene? No? O.o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Music By John Williams, "Rey & Kylo: Balance Of The Force" composed by Wael Binali? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 8 hours ago, king mark said: it's only confirmed by Williams, not by Disney! True that, there's still time to ditch Williams and go with someone cheaper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Technically, Kennedy announced Williams involvement for the trilogy back in 2013 at the Star Wars Celebration Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post #SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2018 It's not really Star Wars without Williams. crumbs, Luka, Bofur01 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 hours ago, someonefun124 said: Technically, Kennedy announced Williams involvement for the trilogy back in 2013 at the Star Wars Celebration Europe. She was meaning to say Giacchino. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Balahkay 627 Posted January 17, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2018 Gia's had his chance! Not Mr. Big, crumbs and Jurassic Shark 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 17 hours ago, king mark said: it's only confirmed by Williams, not by Disney! So official confirmation from the Maestro himself merits nothing? Lucasfilm confirmed it back in 2013 when Kathleen Kennedy announced that the Maestro would do the entire sequel trilogy. Just put Episode IX under "Upcoming Projects" already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,666 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 6 hours ago, Stefancos said: It's not really Star Wars without Williams. And VIII proved that it is possible to not really be Star Wars even with Williams. gkgyver and Luka 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, Tom said: And VIII proved that it is possible to not really be Star Wars even with Williams. I believe your problem is that it was too much Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 No, it was too much Star Trek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 It's very Star Trek! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 I was referring to the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Well, given that JJ Abrams tried to make a Star Wars movie via Star Trek, I suppose it's OK if Star Wars returns the favour. Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Nope, not OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 So if Star Trek is better than everything, and the new Star Wars movie is Star Trek, does that mean Star Wars is better than everything? Steef's mind: BLOWN. Chen G., Taikomochi, Will and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yes! No! Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted January 18, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 18, 2018 I think the public will really start to recognise how much Williams meant to Star Wars after Episode IX (assuming he doesn't do any more). Rogue One sounded close enough that the average cinema goer probably didn't even notice. But a couple films down the road without Williams, and I think people will start to feel that something's "off" and that what they're watching doesn't quite feel like Star Wars. It will feel like some of the magic is gone, and it's not really the same...even if they're not sure why. I think he's going to be a much bigger loss for that franchise than Disney probably suspects. Bayesian, crumbs, John and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 2 hours ago, Nick1066 said: I think he's going to be a much bigger loss for that franchise than Disney probably suspects. Oh, they'd know. After all, they've asked him to parachute in and help link Solo into the chronology with his music. Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 We should really make a clone of JW so he can continue scoring SW for the next 100 years. Let's make a petition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 18, 2018 Share Posted January 18, 2018 Not to be an ass or anything .... ah, fuck it: I think the general public doesn't pay attention to the music in the films much, unless it's a really really gorgeous melody without much SFX. They recognize and pay attention to the Main Titles, Finale, the Force theme, and End Titles. If TLJ is the bar, I think there are other composers out there able to use the Force theme, and re-record the Main Titles, Binary Sunset, and various chunks of existing material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviazn 273 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 6 hours ago, gkgyver said: Not to be an ass or anything .... ah, fuck it: I think the general public doesn't pay attention to the music in the films much, unless it's a really really gorgeous melody without much SFX. They recognize and pay attention to the Main Titles, Finale, the Force theme, and End Titles. If TLJ is the bar, I think there are other composers out there able to use the Force theme, and re-record the Main Titles, Binary Sunset, and various chunks of existing material. For better or worse, I think this is right. Fans will certainly miss the JW sound, and there will be plenty of think pieces from pop culture writers who will lament his absence while also being unable to articulate exactly why. But it seems most of the public—if they even care—would be happier if the trailer cues were the actual score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted January 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 19, 2018 I'm one of the ones who started uploading the trailer music to YouTube. I still to this day get dozens of comments per day on each one, still for the TFA trailers as well, saying that those should have been used in the film instead of Williams' score. I delete every single one of them. John, Luka, Taikomochi and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 That's censorship! Manakin Skywalker and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 17 hours ago, Nick1066 said: So if Star Trek is better than everything, and the new Star Wars movie is Star Trek, does that mean Star Wars is better than everything? It means The Orville is better than both. Like, actually better. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 "The Orville is Golden Age quality! Seth McFarlane is the new Vince Gilligan!" - @Quintus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Quintus said: It means The Orville is better than both. Like, actually better. Yeah but Orville is also Star Trek. Wait. Star Wars...Orville...Star Trek isn’t better than everything. Star Trek IS everything! And everything is Star Trek! Resistance is futile. So say we all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka 242 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 13 hours ago, gkgyver said: Not to be an ass or anything .... ah, fuck it: I think the general public doesn't pay attention to the music in the films much, unless it's a really really gorgeous melody without much SFX. They recognize and pay attention to the Main Titles, Finale, the Force theme, and End Titles. If TLJ is the bar, I think there are other composers out there able to use the Force theme, and re-record the Main Titles, Binary Sunset, and various chunks of existing material. While I think a good part of this is right, I also think that music and sound design in general in a movie is really important. Movies have only two ways of entering the brain; by the eyes and by the ears. The principal one is of the course the visuals; that is what we remember most when we think of a movie. But the sound really gives it the atmosphere and tells the audience what they should feel at a particular moment. So indeed, most people don’t remember themes and such, but they certainly feel the way John Williams paints the atmosphere of the movie. Only, they don’t directly realize it. So I think that if the music would be different in style, even though some of the main themes remain, Star Wars would result in such a different “atmosphere” and people would probably feel that, without knowing what the problem exactly is. Nick1Ø66 and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 The Orville is NOT golden age! But neither are the new Star Wars or Star Treks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Luka said: While I think a good part of this is right, I also think that music and sound design in general in a movie is really important. Movies have only two ways of entering the brain; by the eyes and by the ears. The principal one is of the course the visuals; that is what we remember most when we think of a movie. But the sound really gives it the atmosphere and tells the audience what they should feel at a particular moment. So indeed, most people don’t remember themes and such, but they certainly feel the way John Williams paints the atmosphere of the movie. Only, they don’t directly realize it. So I think that if the music would be different in style, even though some of the main themes remain, Star Wars would result in such a different “atmosphere” and people would probably feel that, without knowing what the problem exactly is. The question is not if it will be the same. It won't. Ever. The question is if it will be noticeable enough to put people off. I should remind you that before TLJ was released, there was that Verizon commercial music, and people here, except the handful of professional composers, had a very difficult time telling if it was Williams or not. And this is the place where people know Williams' music better than any average person. So, if this place has a difficult time telling the difference, do you think Joe Average will be able to tell, WHILE watching the film at the same time? Nope. There are people who can write in the same style. Is it the same? No. Will it be enough to convince 90% of the theatre audience? Yes. And you know what, if a new composer writes in the same style, and gives the music just a bit of influence from the modern, neo classical style, I'm not even sure if the average fan won't say that the music is just as good or better. Because for better or worse, modern audiences are used to different things. Luka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luka 242 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 1 minute ago, gkgyver said: The question is not if it will be the same. It won't. Ever. The question is if it will be noticeable enough to put people off. I should remind you that before TLJ was released, there was that Verizon commercial music, and people here, except the handful of professional composers, had a very difficult time telling if it was Williams or not. And this is the place where people know Williams' music better than any average person. So, if this place has a difficult time telling the difference, do you think Joe Average will be able to tell, WHILE watching the film at the same time? Nope. There are people who can write in the same style. Is it the same? No. Will it be enough to convince 90% of the theatre audience? Yes. Absolutely, but that is if composers continue to try copying Williams' style. But if they don't and do something different, the average audience will certainly feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 On 13.1.2018 at 6:37 AM, Trumpeteer said: I suppose I shall be the lone dissenter here and express my displeasure at this news. While I want John Williams to finish out the third Star Wars trilogy, I haven't been impressed with too much of the music in this new trilogy. Lots of rehashes and too many reminders of how awesome the original trilogy was musically. When "The Force Awakens" ended, I shrugged my shoulders (physically and emotionally) over the music. After "The Last Jedi," I silently hoped Williams would hand over the reins to someone else for Episode 9. Oh, well. I hope there is a surge of inspiration that comes from this film. I really want the music to be good. But, I'm tempering my expectations because they have been dashed twice previously. Hey I remember you!! You would like to have more like a rap music score..or what? Jurassic Shark and gkgyver 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 Less autopilot would be a start. hornist is the Hux of JWFan. Plays the gimmick well, but decidedly too over the top in crucial moments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted January 20, 2018 Hah, do you have any idea what you are of JWfan?DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? Do you love your life wanking there in your filthy middle earth cave and ruining the good feeling of every single JW fan?If you haven't anything positive to say about JW why are you here? Didn't they start Lotr sub-forum just because of you, tired to have shore/lotr in every single post? Jurassic Shark, John and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 8 hours ago, hornist said: Do you love your life wanking there in your filthy middle earth cave and ruining the good feeling of every single JW fan? Oi! I happen to spend a lot of time in the Middle Earth "cave" myself. Its not filthy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted January 20, 2018 Share Posted January 20, 2018 I have noticed that too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 22 hours ago, Chen G. said: Oi! I happen to spend a lot of time in the Middle Earth "cave" myself. Its not filthy! I love me some good filth ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumpeteer 302 Posted January 23, 2018 Share Posted January 23, 2018 On 1/19/2018 at 4:28 PM, hornist said: Hey I remember you!! You would like to have more like a rap music score..or what? Nope. Just a better music score. And now that it's been nominated for an Oscar, I fear it'll be more of the same for Episode 9. gkgyver and Joni Wiljami 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 In news that will surprise almost nobody, John Williams says tha Episode IX will likely be his last Star Wars film. http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-episode-9-score-john-williams/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted March 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, Gistech said: http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-episode-9-score-john-williams/ "Williams has composed the scores to all eight Star Wars theme songs" Ricard, Once, Holko and 2 others 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Gistech said: In news that will surprise almost nobody, John Williams says tha Episode IX will likely be his last Star Wars film. But he can still write themes for new spinoff films. That, to me, is the exciting aspect behind him writing a theme for Solo: that Williams’ scores will be associated strictly with the main episodes, but that he can nevertheless help guide and - in doing so - keep his fingerprints on the expanded Star Wars musical universe, not to mention expand his already impressive catalogue of themes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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