Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 34 minutes ago, Romão said: Could Dune be the 3000 units 2 cd set? I'm not even sure if it could fill out two cd's, but I'm pretty sure one cd is not enough Which Dune are we talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted November 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2020 17 hours ago, Jay said: Want to make a friendly wager? Well not with you, no! You’ve got insider information obviously so that’d be really dumb on my part 😂 Bayesian, Edmilson, The Illustrious Jerry and 7 others 1 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Holy........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted November 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: Well not with you, no! You’ve got insider information obviously so that’d be really dumb on my part 😂 Well not with you, no! You’ve got insider information obviously so that’d be really dumb on my part 😂 Well not with you, no! You’ve got insider information obviously so that’d be really dumb on my part 😂 Well not with you, no! You’ve got insider information obviously so that’d be really dumb on my part 😂 Well not with you, no! You’ve got insider information obviously so that’d be really dumb on my part 😂 Well not with you, no! You’ve got insider information obviously so that’d be really dumb on my part 😂 Well not with you, no! You’ve got insider information obviously so that’d be really dumb on my part. Well not with you, no! You’ve got insider information obviously so that’d be really dumb on my part. Groundhog Day expansion confirmed? Dr. Rick, Bilbo, bruce marshall and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: Which Dune are we talking about? Toto's and Brian Eno's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 14 minutes ago, Romão said: Toto's and Brian Eno's I'd buy that. I recently put the album in my playlist again, and it stuck around for several days in a row. It's been ages since I've seen the film - how does the album compare to the full score? Is there a lot missing? And is the score more narrative than the album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Eno is releasing a compilation of his film music in January. Includes DUNE cues.😁 TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Eno is releasing a compilation of his film music in January. Includes DUNE cues.😁 Hmmm? Are you referring to Film Music, 1976 - 2020? That's out already, at least... I'm looking at it in my iTunes Library and can listen to it... so I presume it's out. Only one cue from Dune, "Prophecy Theme". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Yeha, Digital was the 13th, CD in January 2021 bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 hours ago, Spider-Fal said: Yeha, Digital was the 13th, CD in January 2021 Ah I see. Still only one cue from "Dune" though. In fact, there's really only one cue from each film he's featuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Stupid phone, sorry guys for the Matrix moment there 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 13 minutes ago, TSMefford said: Ah I see. Still only one cue from "Dune" though. In fact, there's really only one cue from each film he's featuring. Wasn't that all that was on the lp? I believe it includes all original compositions , not cues that were needle dropped! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, bruce marshall said: Wasn't that all that was on the lp? Yes, you're right. Sorry it's been a long day and to be fair you did say cues (plural) in your initial post furthering my tired confusion: 3 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Eno is releasing a compilation of his film music in January. Includes DUNE cues.😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Do you have the complete track listing? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Yes. The complete track listing is: 1/ PROPHECY THEME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bollemanneke 3,348 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 On 11/18/2020 at 9:22 PM, Jay said: Here's the past Black Friday history is anyone is curious 2010 JADE: LIMITED EDITION by James Horner BATMAN RETURNS: LIMITED EDITION (2CD-SET) by Danny Elfman STAR TREK V: THE FINAL FRONTIER LIMITED EDITION (2CD-SET) by Jerry Goldsmith HOME ALONE: LIMITED EDITION by John Williams 2011 SCROOGED: LIMITED EDITION by Danny Elfman DIE HARD: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by Michael Kamen FAT MAN AND LITTLE BOY: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by Ennio Morricone TORA! TORA! TORA!: LIMITED EDITION by Jerry Goldsmith SCROOGED: LIMITED EDITION by Danny Elfman 2012 STAR TREK: THE ORIGINAL SERIES SOUNDTRACK COLLECTION: LIMITED EDITION (15-CD BOX SET) by Various Composers HOME ALONE 2: LOST IN NEW YORK: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by John Williams DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by Michael Kamen THE UNTOUCHABLES: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by Ennio Morricone 2013 LETHAL WEAPON SOUNDTRACK COLLECTION: LIMITED EDITION (8-CD BOX SET) by Michael Kamen, Eric Clapton and David Sanborn GUNFIGHT AT THE O.K. CORRAL: LIMITED EDITION by Dimitri Tiomkin POLICE ACADEMY: LIMITED EDITION by Robert Folk SUPERMAN RETURNS: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by John Ottman BONNIE & CLYDE by John Debney 2014 THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST: EXPANDED TENTH ANNIVERSARY EDITION: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by John Debney STAR TREK ENTERPRISE COLLECTION: LIMITED EDITION (4-CD SET) by Dennis McCarthy, Kevin Kiner, Jay Chattaway, David Bell, Paul Baillargeon, Velton Ray Bunch, Mark McKenzie, John Frizzell and Brian Tyler SHAFT: LIMITED EDITION by David Arnold THE DANNY ELFMAN BATMAN COLLECTION (4-CD SET) by Danny Elfman BIG TOP PEE-WEE: LIMITED EDITION by Danny Elfman 2015 GIANT: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by Dimitri Tiomkin DANCES WITH WOLVES: 25th ANNIVERSARY EXPANDED LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by John Barry BRAVEHEART: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by James Horner HOME ALONE: 25th ANNIVERSARY: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by John Williams THE PAGEMASTER: LIMITED EDITION by James Horner 2016 THE JOHN WILLIAMS JURASSIC PARK COLLECTION: LIMITED EDITION (4-CD SET) by John Williams STAR TREK 50th ANNIVERSARY COLLECTION MUSICAL RARITIES FROM ACROSS THE STAR TREK UNIVERSE: LIMITED EDITION (4-CD SET) by Various Composers BEVERLY HILLS COP: LIMITED EDITION by Harold Faltermeyer BEVERLY HILLS COP II: LIMITED EDITION by Harold Faltermeyer THE FRENCH CONNECTION COLLECTION: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by Don Eilis and Brad Fiedel 2017 DIE ANOTHER DAY: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by David Arnold TITANIC – 20th ANNIVERSARY: LIMITED EDITION (4-CD SET) by James Horner CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND: 40th ANNIVERSARY: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by John Williams DOCTOR DOLITTLE: 50th ANNIVERSARY: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by Leslie Bricusse DAVID SHIRE’S APOCALYPSE NOW – THE UNUSED SCORE: LIMITED EDITION by David Shire 2018 HARRY POTTER – THE JOHN WILLIAMS SOUNDTRACK COLLECTION LIMITED EDITION (7-CD BOX SET) by John Williams SCHINDLER’S LIST – 25th ANNIVERSARY LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by John Williams THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH: LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by David Arnold BRAM STOKER’S DRACULA: LIMITED EDITION (3-CD SET) by Wojciech Kilar LAND OF THE GIANTS 50th ANNIVERSARY SOUNDTRACK COLLECTION: LIMITED EDITION (4-CD SET) by John Williams, Alexander Courage, Leith Stevens, Harry Geller, Artie Kane, Joseph Mullendore, Richard LaSalle, Robert Prince, Irving Gertz and Paul Sawtell 2019 DISASTER MOVIE SOUNDTRACK COLLECTION – BY JOHN WILLIAMS: LIMITED EDITION (4-CD BOX SET) by John Williams NEVADA SMITH – THE PARAMOUNT WESTERNS COLLECTION: LIMITED EDIITON (4-CD SET) by Alfred Newman, Nelson Riddle, Walter Scharf, Johnny Douglas, Paul Dunlap, David Raskin, Harry Sukman, Roy Webb, Franz Waxman, Daniele Amfitheatrof and Victor Young STARGATE: 25th ANNIVERSARY EXPANDED LIMITED EDITION (2-CD SET) by David Arnold THE KARATE KID: 35th ANNIVERSARY: LIMITED EDITION by Bill Conti STAR TREK VOYAGER COLLECTION VOLUME 2: LIMITED EDITION (4-CD SET) by Jay Chataway, Dennis McCarthy, David Bell and Paul Baillargeon And the prior threads if you want to relive the excitement La-La Land Black Friday 2013 La-La Land Black Friday 2014 La-La Land Black Friday 2015 La-La Land Black Friday 2016 La-La Land Black Friday 2017 Black Friday! - What do you believe in? La-La Land Black Friday 2018 Black Friday! - What do you believe in? - Part 2 La-La Land Black Friday 2019 Black Friday 2019 JW prediction poll Black Friday 2020 - What do you believe in? Thanks for this! I actually sometimes re-read the page on the LLL thread when they announced HP. Good times. Jay and Smeltington 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Talking quantities, I reminded myself just now that SPR is 4000 units I mean, I know Williams sells, but you'd surely apply that largely to expansions that are significantly expanded. There's no way LLL would've done 4000 if they'd only been allowed to do a straight reissue... surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Hook 4 CD it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 WILLIAMS SELLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,440 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 As long as he doesn't sell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: Hook 4 CD it is. Hah! I'm not sure how you could possibly reach 4 CDs of material for Hook, unless they discovered some treasure trove of unused material from the abandoned musical version. I could maybe see a remastered OST being included just to get that slowed down Prologue included (seemingly Williams' preferred version). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 CD1-2: score CD3: all the wrong takes/material from the 2012 release +songs CD4: remastered OST Henry Sítrónu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Personally, I don't see the point of remastered OSTs unless they contain exclusive material or alternate mixes/takes. I'm not familiar enough with Hook to know how much the OST differs from the film. Only the slow Prologue and alternate (microedited?) Flight to Neverland spring to mind. EDIT: Oh, I guess it also has the Never-Feast without insert and Presenting the Hook without the Slicing the Hand segment, and album version of Banning Back Home. EDIT 2: And also a section of Ultimate War that was replaced by a film insert in the final cut. And also You Are The Pan without choir (I think the film version and LLL had choir). OK, there's quite a few differences then. bollemanneke and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 13 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: I'd buy that. I recently put the album in my playlist again, and it stuck around for several days in a row. It's been ages since I've seen the film - how does the album compare to the full score? Is there a lot missing? And is the score more narrative than the album? I'm not even sure, but the score does really need a good remastering and the Prophecy Theme is greatly missed on the expanded release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 31 minutes ago, Romão said: I'm not even sure, but the score does really need a good remastering and the Prophecy Theme is greatly missed on the expanded release I wasn't even aware there was an expanded release! I only just looked it up on Soundtrackcollector. How does that compare, musically, to the album then? (Mainly I'm wondering if the "album feel" of the original album comes just from the album assembly/if the score as a whole has more of a narrative flow) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 44 minutes ago, crumbs said: Personally, I don't see the point of remastered OSTs unless they contain exclusive material or alternate mixes/takes. I'm not familiar enough with Hook to know how much the OST differs from the film. Only the slow Prologue and alternate (microedited?) Flight to Neverland spring to mind. EDIT: Oh, I guess it also has the Never-Feast without insert and Presenting the Hook without the Slicing the Hand segment, and album version of Banning Back Home. EDIT 2: And also a section of Ultimate War that was replaced by a film insert in the final cut. And also You Are The Pan without choir (I think the film version and LLL had choir). OK, there's quite a few differences then. Yeah, plus it could really do with a remaster and that would also leave plenty of room for more bonus material/better listening experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: CD 3: all the wrong takes/material from the 2012 release +songs ...including the Marshall Jefferson Jack The House extended remix of PICK 'EM UP, clocking-in at 28:36. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Marian Schedenig said: I wasn't even aware there was an expanded release! I only just looked it up on Soundtrackcollector. How does that compare, musically, to the album then? (Mainly I'm wondering if the "album feel" of the original album comes just from the album assembly/if the score as a whole has more of a narrative flow) Oh, I thought you were familiar with that one. The scores flows and develops in a much, much, better way. You also get dialogue free tracks and the main title version on this edition just blows the on the OST out of the water (the difference is really shocking). Still, there are still some tracks on it with a wobbly effect, some music cues are still missing and the Prophecy Theme is completely absent. But imperfect as it is, I think you will find that edition quite revelatory of the score's quality Naïve Old Fart and Marian Schedenig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, Romão said: The scores flows and develops in a much, much, better way. That's what I was hoping. I like the album, but it very much feels like an "album" in the "rock/pop" kind of way: A collection of tracks that are somewhat related, but don't really form a single coherent work. Think album vs. concept album, if you want to stay in the genre. Or perhaps like a watered down condensation of a concept album that loses the concept in the process, like a greatest hits compilation from The Wall. And I obviously wouldn't mind dropping the Harkonnen dialogue, though I *am* fond of the opening narration. That opening track is mainly responsible for making me think I'd like to see the film again, although I know that for all its fascinating details, it never fails to disappoint me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: That's what I was hoping. I like the album, but it very much feels like an "album" in the "rock/pop" kind of way: A collection of tracks that are somewhat related, but don't really form a single coherent work. Think album vs. concept album, if you want to stay in the genre. Or perhaps like a watered down condensation of a concept album that loses the concept in the process, like a greatest hits compilation from The Wall. And I obviously wouldn't mind dropping the Harkonnen dialogue, though I *am* fond of the opening narration. That opening track is mainly responsible for making me think I'd like to see the film again, although I know that for all its fascinating details, it never fails to disappoint me. I kinda miss the opening narration as well, but the music behind it is really quite nice. An ideal expanded edition would probably include both versions. I also remembered, the expanded edition also doesn't include Final Dream from the OST. Have a listen to the expanded version, if you can, Marian. I'd be quite curious to read your thoughts Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 I predict Innerspace and Amistad will be among them. @Jay is there any Williams or Goldsmith? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Isn't it a bit racist to call it black Friday? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: @Jay is there any Williams or Goldsmith? On 11/18/2020 at 4:52 PM, Jay said: I have no clue what any of the other titles could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Amistad would be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Isn't it a bit racist to call it black Friday? Coloured Friday? Colourless Friday? Friday of Colour? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Hah! I'm not sure how you could possibly reach 4 CDs of material for Hook, unless they discovered some treasure trove of unused material from the abandoned musical version. I could maybe see a remastered OST being included just to get that slowed down Prologue included (seemingly Williams' preferred version). They did a four CD of ROBIN HOOD....after they did a THREE CD# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted November 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2020 Quote Yes 6 releases but trust me on this...nothing jaw dropping. And no I'm not being modest. The curse of 2020 strikes again. I hope you enjoy what we have coming out (all quality releases) but do not expect anything amazing. We had 4 incredible releases planned and ALL OF THEM delayed until 2021 (we hope). Could not get approvals on any of them done in time. Rather frustrating but we will prevail some day! MV https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=118900&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=39&r=961#bottom bollemanneke, Chewy, crumbs and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maglorfin 196 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 minute ago, bruce marshall said: They did a four CD of ROBIN HOOD....after they did a THREE CD# Um, wasn't it first a two CD and then a four CD? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Yes Maglorfin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Isn't it a bit racist to call it black Friday? "Differently white Friday" If memory serves, it's called "black Friday", because the day after Thanksgiving is, for most retail businesses, traditionally, the most lucrative day of the year. It's enough to put struggling businesses back into the black. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Correct, that is exactly why it's called that. Businesses that might be in the "red", accounting wise, will often get back in the "black" during this day and the rest of the holiday season. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 Sounds stressful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Sounds stressful. Yeah. Especially when you're dependent on notoriously cheap score fans..😉 " where can I stream it for free?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted November 20, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted November 20, 2020 Re: Hook The original OST album use all the same takes as the film did, but the editing was performed separately from the film editing so the edit points may be slightly different at times. In other words: each cue was performed by the orchestra multiple times until they got everything they needed, Williams and co decided on what portions of which takes to use to make the final edit, and then the team putting things into the movie performed those cuts on analog tape and the cut version was sent to the team assembling the film. Later, any cue that was going to go on the OST, they took a digital transfer and used digital editing software to re-create the same take portion choices in the digital world. This is how most, if not all of, Williams' 90s scores were done. Inserts later written to replace portions of original cues in the film didn't go into the OST album at all - The flight to Neverland, The Never-feast, and the beginning of The Ultimate War are all examples of this. The Neverfeast and Ultimate War inserts were not even recorded yet by the time of the OST was mastered. Some of the piano in Remembering Childhood is different than the take in the film for whatever reason, and I think one other tiny thing is different too somewhere. But other than that, the entire album is all the same takes as the film uses, and including it on a future expansion would be redundant, since it's not like the album used a different mix than the film mix or anything, and the album mastering is barely any different from the film mixes as well. The old boot, the session leak, and the LLL CD were all sourced from a digital archive of entire, unedited takes (the selected takes only, I would wager). The boot/session leak makers likely didn't even have access to the performance-edited analog masters of each cue to attempt to re-create the same performance takes - but let's be honest, even if they did, it's unlikely they would have done so - in fact, they likely would have just released the already performance edited assemblies, and not the raw takes at all! The Far and Away boot is the same thing - entire clean takes, no performance edits. (by comparison, the Raiders and Indy 3 boots are performance edited assemblies, indicating that different bootleggers get access to different things and you never know what you're gonna get) The sad thing about the LLL CD is that Didier's team obviously had the film's clean music stem they could have used as a reference, so actually HAD all the tools they needed to re-make every performance edit exactly as heard in the film (for all the music that wasn't dropped from the final film, of course) - but they didn't do that. Or, really even attempt it. Many cues on the LLL CD are just a full unedited takes, though there are some times when you can tell they did some editing (IE, it matches up with the take that's on the session leak for a while, then differs later on). If you really get down in the nitty gritty and compare the session leak to the LLL CD, sometimes you can find a different good take ended up on the leak than the LLL CD. And if you then bring in the DVD/BD rip of the cue, you can actually re-create the proper film version by cutting back and forth between the two. But it's impossible to do this for every cue, as often the LLL take and session leak take are the same one, and you can hear performances in the film that are just not available on the boot, leak, or LLL CD (presumably coming from other takes that didn't happen to be the ones used on the leak or CD) So long story short, if Matessino ever gets to do Hook over, and Sony Pictures can provide him every take of every cue (or at least the selected takes) he'd be more than capable of recreating the proper performance edits of the whole score and we'd finally get the actual performances we were meant to hear outside of the film for the first time since 1991. The boots, the leak, and the LLL CD only provide us the same music heard in the film if the take chosen for those is coincidentally the same as a film take for a while. blondheim, Chewy, crumbs and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 21 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Do you have the complete track listing? Thanks! Complete track listing of what? The Eno compilation? It's on his site and in my iTunes library: Spoiler 01 Top Boy (Theme) from Top Boy - Series 1 (2011) 02 Ship in a Bottle from The Lovely Bones (2009) 03 Blood Red from Francis Bacon’s Arena (2005) 04 Under from Cool World (1992) 05 Decline And Fall from O Nome da Morte (2017) 06 Prophecy Theme from Dune (1984) 07 Reasonable Question from We Are As Gods (2020) 08 Late Evening In Jersey from Heat (1995) 09 Beach Sequence from Beyond The Clouds (1995) 10 You Don’t Miss Your Water from Married to the Mob (1988) 11 Deep Blue Day from Trainspotting (1996) 12 The Sombre from Top Boy - Series 2 (2013) 13 Dover Beach from Jubilee (1978) 14 Design as Reduction from Rams (2018) 15 Undersea Steps from Hammerhead (2004) 16 Final Sunset from Sebastiane (1976) 17 An Ending (Ascent) from For All Mankind (1989) 5 hours ago, Jay said: So long story short, if Matessino ever gets to do Hook over, and they can provide him every take of every cue (or at least the selected takes) he'd be more than capable of recreating the proper performance edits of the whole score and we'd finally get the actual performances we were meant to hear outside of the film for the first time since 1991. The boot, leak, and LLL CD are all a mixture of portions of takes we were meant to hear and portions of takes we were not. I must admit, I am quite unfamiliar with Hook and all of that sounds like a nightmare! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted November 21, 2020 Share Posted November 21, 2020 Thanks for the Eno list. I only have APOLLO and Prophecy ( taped off the lo!). Most of the films are not familiar. Looking forward! TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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