Smaug The Iron 516 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Got my copy today as well. Just one question, on the web site it says limited to 2 000 copies but on the cover it says 3 000? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Share Posted March 21, 2022 That's a relatively new thing for Varese Sarabande. Basically, since they now have a US store and a UK store, they split the allowed amount between the two stores. So I guess in this case it's limited to 3,000 total, and they are selling 2,000 through the US store and 1,000 through the UK store? Something like that. Smaug The Iron and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Nearly finished listening to the main score. The opening insert sucks. Its placement I mean. The source cues are also a necessary evil, but other than that it's outrageously good. It surpasses the first score on every level. A. A. Ron and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 I actually don't mind how the album opens. It flows better than similar thing on the previous one. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,374 Posted March 21, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 I think it sounds poopy. They should have edited the new opening into the rest of the original cue to open the album, and put the full original cue with its original opening as a bonus track after the song reprise, before the demos. Tom Guernsey, JNHFan2000 and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,695 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Gonna have to agree to disagree there I'm with you on the arrangement for the first score, but I think it works here. The more relaxed film opening feels like it's a warm-up, then the (IMO) superior alternate opening gets things going more energetically. The film opening doesn't really end in a very satisfying way, as in no interesting chords or anything, but I still think it works fine as a standalone cue. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Honestly, the official assembly works well enough for me musically, I just prefer having both full versions of the cue so I can swap them out for different playlists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Disc 2. Presentation is still too raw (worst album ending ever), but the music is still as mind-boggling as always. I especially love the demos. There’s something so polished and clear about the choir and the whole thing in general that you just don’t get in a real orchestra. Flying with mother… surreal. The complete demos have to leak for this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bored 309 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 All I know for sure, after all of these years of sitting with this score... is that "Where No One Goes" still sucks! tee_oh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I've loved Sigur Ros since 2001 but yeah that song is not among his best work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 A great shame, since I think the two mixes of the song on the DE arguably does more to make itself fit better among the rest of the score. Particularly with how Jonsi's vocals are in the mix, since it doesn't overwhelm at any point, and arguably feels more like an instrument that's part of the soundscape. Of course, the general package is still the same, so you can only do so much, but I do think it does enough unique things that anyone more apprehensive should give them a shot at least once. (Of course you could also just keep listening to Test Drive. That works too.) Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,360 Posted March 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 22, 2022 WNOG is great, you guys are high. OK, maybe its just OK, but I still like it. Holko, scallenger and A. A. Ron 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,402 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, Power Windows said: WNOG is great, you guys are high. OK, maybe its just OK, but I still like it. I think it's good. But my daughter loves it so that makes it great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 58 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: The complete demos have to leak for this score. Yeah, there are some that actually have differences that have yet to leak (without SFX), including early versions Where No One Goes and Drago Is Coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 I really do wonder what criteria Powell uses to choose which 6 demos out of all the ones that exist to include on each of these DEs so far. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 I think he puts them on the sets, as a curio, sort of like his instagram/youtube videos that have the piano roll thingy. Not so much as to present different versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 I know, I meant how he settled on the exact 6 he went with for each score, not why he included some at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,360 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 Just now, Jay said: I know, I meant how he settled on the exact 6 he went with for each score, not why he included some at all Probably chooses the ones fans seem to respond to, or the what he considers the major setpieces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 100 Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 They are likely what he considers the highlights of the score (and I agree with him, if that is the case). They also seem to be from sequences where music is mixed to the front; where music carries the scene all by itself - which is to say dialogues and sound effects are almost inconsequential, if not nonexistent. Besides, a cue like "Dragon Racing" represents a composer's studio gear, sound bank/sample quality, and demo-making skills much better than, say, "Riding to Drago’s". Just my guesses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 Ah OK, that's the best explanation I've heard yet! Thanks! Drawgoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Finally... it has arrived. I knew you were all waiting for this important update. However, I'm going to add a minor bitch... for about the third time in a row, Varese have sent something wrong in my order. I got HTTYD (1) instead of Iron Giant. I appreciate mistakes happen but it's getting a bit ridiculous now! Ah well, at least I have HTTYD2 and Dante's Peak to enjoy and further anticipation for the Iron Giant. I'm patient. Honest. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 Damn that sucks. My Varese box had all the correct titles in it Haven't had time to open up HTTYD 2 yet, though! If I still had a car with a CD player in it, I would have opened it up already to play there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted March 23, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Jay said: Damn that sucks. My Varese box had all the correct titles in it Haven't had time to open up HTTYD 2 yet, though! If I still had a car with a CD player in it, I would have opened it up already to play there... Thanks Jay, I don't like to be that guy who bitches about delivery issues as I know shit happens, but it's getting kinda annoying now! First time I got two copies of something (think it was Babe) and they sent me another copy! Then another copy of Lionheart turned up weeks after I had received my original order. I'm just glad it had HTTYD2 in it, I think I'd have had a meltdown not getting it knowing that it was stuck at some sorting office since Saturday (thanks Royal Mail tracking app...). I'm guessing it's an international store thing. They seem to have a new fulfilment company but given they are making the same errors, I'm wondering if it's not just the old one with new branding! They have literally one job. Anyway... moving on! Awesome you got yours, hope you're loving it as much as I am. This is proper holy grail stuff for me, I absolutely love HTTYD2, it's everything that makes me love film music, tuneful, uplifting, sad, epic, brilliantly using the full scope of a symphony orchestra and yeah, I even love the song, (I love Jonsi and Sigur-Ros, which helps) especially when hints of JP's themes are woven in and out of the texture like echoes, it's magical. Excuse me a moment, I think I have something in my eye... Jay, scallenger and Incanus 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,716 Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 14 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Finally... it has arrived. I knew you were all waiting for this important update. However, I'm going to add a minor bitch... for about the third time in a row, Varese have sent something wrong in my order. I got HTTYD (1) instead of Iron Giant. I appreciate mistakes happen but it's getting a bit ridiculous now! Ah well, at least I have HTTYD2 and Dante's Peak to enjoy and further anticipation for the Iron Giant. I'm patient. Honest. I have to say that Music Box Records is the exact opposite experience in terms of delivery and service. With all my orders the delivery has taken 2 days to Finland from France without fail and always with up-to-date tracking. Plus they to my surprise in this latest package with HTTYD 2 even included replacement discs for my The Eiger Saction and The Sleepy Hollow sets I ordered via them without me even having to specifically ask for them. MaxTheHouseelf, Holko and Tom Guernsey 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxTheHouseelf 324 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Yesterday, I canceled my pre-order from soundtrackcorner and placed a new order at Music Box Records, along with Superman and Always. They already have their second batch of HTYYD2 in stock while soundtrackcorner not even mentions when they will get their first. 26 minutes ago, Incanus said: Plus they to my surprise in this latest package with HTTYD 2 even included replacement discs for my The Eiger Saction and The Sleepy Hollow sets I ordered via them without me even having to specifically ask for them. That's actually really impressive. When I asked them about replacement discs for A.I. that went smoothly as well. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Loved every minute. I almost wish I could go back in time and listen to it for the first time again, but I'll console myself with just being able to enjoy the whole thing in superb sound. I'm glad JP has moved to more natural, less compressed mixes these days, his music sounds much better like that! If anyone wants an embarrassment of custom covers, I heartily recommend https://www.thesoundtrackgallery.com/2020/12/how-to-train-your-dragon-2-john-powell.html which will make you cry at having to actually choose... There's also some on Deviant Art and elsewhere. However, for the main programme, I went for this one as it perfectly mixes epic with the core relationship between Hiccup and Toothless. I believe it was from here http://customscorecovers.blogspot.com/2019/ but I'm not 100% sure! Lovely stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 Sold out in the US store https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/how-to-train-your-dragon-2-the-deluxe-edition-cd Still available in the UK store https://intl.varesesarabande.com/products/how-to-train-your-dragon-2-the-deluxe-edition-cd Holko and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,396 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 5 hours ago, Jay said: Sold out in the US store https://www.varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/how-to-train-your-dragon-2-the-deluxe-edition-cd I guess it's just temporarily out of stock. Would be very surprised if this sold out in one week, considering the first one that came out more than a year ago is still in print (even if it has more units). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timelord327 4 Posted March 28, 2022 Share Posted March 28, 2022 Is it possible to edit together the film version of Dragon Racing just using the first 2 tracks? And if so, how would I do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 28, 2022 Author Share Posted March 28, 2022 1 hour ago, timelord327 said: Is it possible to edit together the film version of Dragon Racing just using the first 2 tracks? Of course 1 hour ago, timelord327 said: And if so, how would I do it? Here's the FYC track you can listen to as a reference for how to edit using the Deluxe timelord327 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 ...26$ for shipping from the UK store? Yeah, I’ll stick with the album as is. Chewy and bollemanneke 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 Confirmed that it did sell out from what they allocated for the US (not my image, it's from the FSM thread) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Haha less copies for those chumps in Europe! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 Wow, very interesting! While they did produce 1,000 less units for this score compared to the first, this one definitely seems to be more popular! Kind of surprised but not at the same time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 I'm glad I ordered this the day it went up for sale, and already received my copy in fine condition! scallenger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 This sort of quick sell out hasn't happened in a long time, has it? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,374 Posted March 29, 2022 Author Share Posted March 29, 2022 Plenty of film scores pressed to vinyl sell out instantly still But for film scores on CD, I know the Kritzerland Missouri Breaks sold out in 72 hours, 9 years ago. I can't remember if there's been any quick sellouts since then scallenger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scallenger 483 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 The power of Powell! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I might still grab it, as I love these scores to death. But if I miss the chance, eh, we’ll probably get a Super Mega Deluxe Edition in ten years with “even more improved sound quality! You can hear the chairs moving, omg!!”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 They're all gonna be on streaming platforms eventually (1 already is!), so you can go off that to make your decision from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 372 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Jay said: Plenty of film scores pressed to vinyl sell out instantly still The Tron legacy Mondo vinyl sold out pretty much instantly, and so did the rerelease a year or two later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,352 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 10 hours ago, scallenger said: Wow, very interesting! While they did produce 1,000 less units for this score compared to the first, this one definitely seems to be more popular! Kind of surprised but not at the same time? 2 is the better score. No competition. 1 has great ideas, but 2 is a much tighter listening experience. scallenger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Received my copy today! So glad to have this set and that these companies are invested in producing them. Everything sounds so pristine and clear! I reckon once people got a taste for the first score's deluxe edition, they jumped on this one with more fervour. Hopefully Disney are watching this. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,287 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 On 28/3/2022 at 1:01 PM, Jay said: Of course Here's the FYC track you can listen to as a reference for how to edit using the Deluxe I knew there was a reason to keep the FYC in my library! Aside from anything, it’s a good excuse to be able to use more of the gorgeous custom artwork out there. Is there anything else from all the various “custom” editions out there that are worth keeping? Unlike the first score, I kept the original album and FYC in my iTunes library but I slightly regret taking deleting the first film OST. It had some of the highest individual track plays of any soundtrack I own! See you tomorrow and test drive would be totally worn through if it were vinyl… think I’ll re-add it. If nothing else, it’s my one signed JP score when I met him a few years ago so has significant sentimental value even if on iTunes it’s just files. Interesting that the one key alternate on both of the first two scores is the opening. I wonder if Powell composed two versions to let the director pick? I think I’d rather have had the full version of both alternates on both scores and Powell just chose the one he liked/felt fitted best in the main program with the other as an bonus track. Conversely to some, I find it less distracting on the first score than the sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Score 770 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 hours ago, bollemanneke said: 2 is the better score. No competition. 1 has great ideas, but 2 is a much tighter listening experience. Ooh, the HTTYD2 listening experience is TIGHT! Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bollemanneke 3,352 Posted March 30, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 30, 2022 And super easy too, barely an inconvenience! Score, Tallguy and A. A. Ron 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,402 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 So... Why was the film version of the finale (Where No One Goes Reprise) left off of the original album? Wouldn't that have made a satisfying conclusion to the CD? Unclear, sir! OK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 I received my two Dragons, now I have to encode train them! Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 15 hours ago, bollemanneke said: 2 is the better score. No competition. 1 has great ideas, but 2 is a much tighter listening experience. 1 feels more intimate and fantasy oriented. 2 is just a straight up balls-to-the-wall swashbuckler and as such has always been my favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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