Chen G. 4,929 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: The "Oh, The Empire Strikes Back wasn't well recieved in its day and look at it now!" is a bit of special pleading. Yes, it didn't have the novelty that the original did, and many critics thought it was too serious. But it still got reviews almost on-par with the original. ThePenitentMan1 and Davis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,307 Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 people have eyes and ears! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JazzyNips 65 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 The better question is how long until the Rey movie is cancelled? Davis, Bayesian and Trope 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 4,195 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, JohnTheBaptist said: The better question is how long until the Rey movie is cancelled? There are now reported rumblings that the execs are worried about going forward with the Rey movie after the failure of The Marvels. But I think Kathleen Kennedy is going to exert all the influence she can to pinch it out. Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JazzyNips 65 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: There are now reported rumblings that the execs are worried about going forward with the Rey movie after the failure of The Marvels. But I think Kathleen Kennedy is going to exert all the influence she can to pinch it out. Phrasing! A. A. Ron and Mr. Hooper 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leia Sees Ghosts 325 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 Let's be realistic. It's sad to think about, but 2026 is very far away, especially for someone John's age. He'll be 94 when the movie comes out. Time aside, there's also the possibility that Williams is probably more than happy to step away from action heavy franchise movies (see him talking about how he initially was hesitant to score Dial of Destiny because of the time and effort it takes the score movies of this scale). Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy would probably wanna work with someone else (probably Laura Karpman). Maybe John will write a theme for a new heroine and pass the score to someone else (Powell, Giacchino, Karpman, Ross). But there's no way John Williams will score the whole movie. Davis, Edmilson, Trope and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,792 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 59 minutes ago, Courtney Sees Ghosts said: Let's be realistic. It's sad to think about, but 2026 is very far away, especially for someone John's age. He'll be 94 when the movie comes out. Time aside, there's also the possibility that Williams is probably more than happy to step away from action heavy franchise movies (see him talking about how he initially was hesitant to score Dial of Destiny because of the time and effort it takes the score movies of this scale). Sharmeen Obaid-Chinoy would probably wanna work with someone else (probably Laura Karpman). Maybe John will write a theme for a new heroine and pass the score to someone else (Powell, Giacchino, Karpman, Ross). But there's no way John Williams will score the whole movie. I agree with this. At this stage in his life, I think JW is content with writing concert pieces, adaptations for ASM, and at the most a small scale score for Spielberg if the opportunity arises. Leia Sees Ghosts and Davis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bayesian 1,492 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 How old was the oldest composer to write 2 hours of music and go through the whole process to do so, from spotting to conducting the studio orchestra? I firmly believe DoD will be the last "major" score in JW's film composing career. It's clear that TROS nearly wrecked him, and DoD was physically taxing on him too, right? In this age where picture lock doesn't occur until 10 minutes before the film's world premiere, composers who work like JW does are cogs that simply no longer fit inside the machine. Like others have said, Spielberg is the only one who could coax JW into one more score. I'd personally love it if JW scored the rumored Napoleon miniseries Spielberg is supposedly producing (directing???) from Kubrick's abandoned script. GerateWohl, Cerebral Cortex, Davis and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 5,566 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 In addition, if they are really kicking off a new trilogy with this, it makes sense to put the whole thing into new competent hands (which seemingly don't exist). Trope, Bayesian and Davis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 4,195 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Bayesian said: I'd personally love it if JW scored the rumored Napoleon miniseries Spielberg is supposedly producing (directing???) from Kubrick's abandoned script. It's supposed to be a seven-part series, which would be a massive undertaking. But yeah, that would be something. Davis and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jurassic Shark 14,182 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: It's supposed to be a seven-part series, which would be a massive undertaking. But yeah, that would be something. He can do the main theme. Davis, Leia Sees Ghosts, GerateWohl and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,858 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 He may write an idea or two but there's no chance he does the whole thing. Isn't he too busy writing XIII-XV now anyway? Think he should be done with X-XII by now. Karol Chen G., Giftheck, GerateWohl and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,724 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 2 hours ago, crocodile said: Isn't he too busy writing XIII-XV now anyway? Think he should be done with X-XII by now. That you, Mattris? ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post GerateWohl 5,566 Posted December 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: He can do the main theme. That didn't save the Kenobi series and its score. And it wouldn't save this one. Anyway, any Star Wars input by Williams is welcome. Edmilson, Davis and enderdrag64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 14,182 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: That didn't save the Kenobi series and its score. And it wouldn't save this one. It saved the main theme. Giftheck and GerateWohl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 5,566 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: It saved the main theme. In an interview Nathalie Holt said, she had written something similar. Apart from that I unfortunately really dislike her score for Kenobi. And for Powell's Solo I would say, the moments where he uses Williams' theme are not necessarily the strongest. Apart from William Ross and Alexander Courage and some others, that worked for JW as orchestrators not many composers come to my mind, who are good at handling Williams' themes. enderdrag64 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 9,073 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 13 hours ago, Bayesian said: How old was the oldest composer to write 2 hours of music and go through the whole process to do so, from spotting to conducting the studio orchestra? The late, great Bent Fabricius-Bjerre was 94 when he scored the Danish film KOLLISION in 2019 (he passed away in 2020). I don't think there were 2 hours of music in it, though, and there was a co-composer, so perhaps not comparable. The benchmark now should be the Portuguese director Manuel de Oliveira who directed his last film at age 105(!). Bayesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,980 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 7 hours ago, GerateWohl said: In an interview Nathalie Holt said, she had written something similar. Apart from that I unfortunately really dislike her score for Kenobi. And for Powell's Solo I would say, the moments where he uses Williams' theme are not necessarily the strongest. Apart from William Ross and Alexander Courage and some others, that worked for JW as orchestrators not many composers come to my mind, who are good at handling Williams' themes. Holt's main theme is used to score the scene where Obi Wan and young Leia hold hands while on that desert transport. At least that's what she said herself in an interview about the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,779 Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Well Williams could write a theme for Rey and...wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eitam 375 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 It's not too late for Williams to write a theme for Rey. Remember, he had to wait till Attack of the Clones before he could write the series' first love theme. Giftheck and Trope 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 5,333 Posted December 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2023 This theme will be for the version of Daisy who stopped being his pen pal. Think a blend of Nixon and Images. Edmilson, Sunshine Reger and Davis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 4,195 Posted December 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Tom said: This theme will be for the version of Daisy who stopped being his pen pal. When I heard of this, I began a correspondence with him, pretending to be Daisy... The things we said to each other would make you blush. And he promised me a symphony. Sunshine Reger, Edmilson and Davis 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,779 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 But isn't he he currently more into Helena? Daisy is so 4 years ago Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard P 4,503 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 Williams has already forgotten he wrote a theme for Rey... I mean... 8 years ago. So he'll offer to KK to write another one, then we'll have two! And JWFanners' playlists are thrown into chaos as they have two tracks called 'Rey's Theme' and they're different themes... Sunshine Reger 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,779 Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 He'll call it Indy and the Scavenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Leia Sees Ghosts 325 Posted December 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 29, 2023 On 11/12/2023 at 8:14 PM, King Mark said: But isn't he he currently more into Helena? Daisy is so 4 years ago Wait until Rey's apprentice is played by another cute white British brunette and John Williams will write so much music they'll have to turn it into another trilogy. crumbs, Jurassic Shark, Edmilson and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 4,195 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Courtney Sees Ghosts said: Wait until Rey's apprentice is played by another cute white British brunette and John Williams will write so much music they'll have to turn it into another trilogy. If that's what it takes to lure John back for more Star Wars, then so be it! Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 14,182 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Courtney Sees Ghosts said: Wait until Rey's apprentice is played by another cute white British brunette and John Williams will write so much music they'll have to turn it into another trilogy. The Force is strong with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 3,724 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 I wonder what JW would say if he knew that we talk about him like he is the horniest 91-year-old. “John Williams was many things, but what he was not was a man to say ‘no’ to.” – Daisy Ridley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,929 Posted December 29, 2023 Share Posted December 29, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said: Quote Wait until Rey's apprentice is played by another cute white British brunette and John Williams will write so much music they'll have to turn it into another trilogy. If that's what it takes to lure John back for more Star Wars, then so be it! So, which wig are you taking for the job, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 4,195 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 17 hours ago, Chen G. said: So, which wig are you taking for the job, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin Copilot 9,218 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: Photoshop John Williams with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,858 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 Johnny boy is ever so indecisive. In 2008, it was Blanchett that was "his kind of babe". Karol Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,929 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 And Blanchett in a role that was among the least-appealing she had ever looked in a film... Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 4,195 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 34 minutes ago, Chen G. said: And Blanchett in a role that was among the least-appealing she had ever looked in a film... I wouldn't kick Irina out of bed. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bellosh 4,034 Posted December 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2023 Never wanted to be an ant so bad in my life back in 2008 🤤🤤😩😩 Mr. Hooper, Muad'Dib, Davis and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 9,772 Posted December 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2023 Lucasfilm: *hires a foreign female actress younger than 40 for a proeminent role in the next chapter of their biggest franchises* John Williams: Bellosh, Davis, Giftheck and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 4,195 Posted December 30, 2023 Share Posted December 30, 2023 36 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Foreign female actress younger than 40: "Oh, what big eyes you have!" JW: "All the better to see you with, my dear! Plus I got corrective surgery!" Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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