Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 Or MGFan.com, a site filled with forums of people ripping on Gia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 This site has an entire subforum devoted to Tolkien, but no subforum devoted to the one true successor of John Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 18, 2017 Share Posted July 18, 2017 The Tolkien subforum is obsolete. JRR stopped writing books and PJ stopped making movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 11 hours ago, JohnSolo said: This site has an entire subforum devoted to Tolkien, but no subforum devoted to the one true successor of John Williams? *waits patiently for the bounty to come in for this comment* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,399 Posted July 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2017 For some reason, and unlike the LotR threads, I never tire of Gia bashing threads. Carry on. Not Mr. Big, Dixon Hill and Brónach 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Oh, no. Don't be mistaken: I'm a Gia fan. I'm just patiently waiting for the bashers to come in. It's as inevitable as rain in a British summer. James and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Giacchino is a hack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Giftheck 917 Posted July 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 19, 2017 James, Manakin Skywalker, Fancyarcher and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Shouldn't this discussion be in the Official Michael Giacchino Thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 30 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: Giacchino is a hack! Listen, buster, he was a hack at Stanford, and a hack at Bell! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Hack to the Future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 Since it's clear this is a shitposting thread, here's some shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 HACK IN THE USSR GET HACK Just now, Gistech said: Since it's clear this is a shitposting thread, here's some shit. I've never smiled when I've stepped in it, but each to their own. I'll go on record by saying that I like his scores. Like Horner, he seems to have genuine talent. He just doesn't know quite what to do with it, sometimes. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 I knew JWFan had ties to Russia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 No. No. Not true. Never been there. Couldn't find it on a map. False post. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 What's that in your profile, Richard? Rush? Rush-ia, Russia? Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Not true. None of it. More falsies. RPurton is a false name. JWfan is a false website. I am false. I did not say this, I am not here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 JWFan is an objective, authoritative platform for all news and information pertaining to John Williams, and sometimes Michael Giacchino. A bastion of enlightenment, nothing false can ever be found on these pages. (Except everything on this forum...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 19 hours ago, Quintus said: For some reason, and unlike the LotR threads, I never tire of Gia bashing threads. I do. And HOW!!! Good God, it is quite unbelievable just how tremendously sick I am of it. The moment that it finally ends cannot possibly come soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Complaints about Zimmer or Giacchino have a little to do with their actual compositions. They are mostly a reflection of someone's irritation with the quantity and enthusiasm of the composers' fans being disproportionate to the quality of the composers' works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Pieter_Boelen said: I do. And HOW!!! Good God, it is quite unbelievable just how tremendously sick I am of it. The moment that it finally ends cannot possibly come soon enough. It's not going to end as long as people have opinions. It is grating as I've said earlier that it's essentially the same tired things repeated, all hanging on the standards of those who are critical of Giacchino's work. Most of the time, it's harmless trolling, Zimmer and RCP receive more flak, yet often get a pass ''because innovation". I don't think it's likely to die down either, as Giacchino is offered more projects that might infringe on people's tastes. I say: suck it up, take the noise of opinions on both sides and then relegate it to the back of your mind until something else comes along! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, Miz said: Complaints about Zimmer or Giacchino have a little to do with their actual compositions. Wait, what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, RPurton said: Most of the time, it's harmless trolling Trolling is indeed exactly what this is and trolling is NOT harmless. Not even in the slightest. To my great regret, I know that to be true better than most. This is also why I very strongly object to it. It is simply and purely sickening. It is also retarted*. (* = Word deliberately misspelled because it is SO unbelievably stupid that it doesn't deserve to have it spelled correctly!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Your dismissal of people's opinions, however frequently and repetitively expressed, as "trolling" and all these other hyperbolic adjectives you've conjured up, is a tad silly friendo. Perhaps more than a tad. Good grief! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Pieter_Boelen said: Trolling is indeed exactly what this is and trolling is NOT harmless. Not even in the slightest. To my great regret, I know that to be true better than most. This is also why I very strongly object to it. It is simply and purely sickening. It is also retarted*. (* = Word deliberately misspelled because it is SO unbelievably stupid that it doesn't deserve to have it spelled correctly!) There isn't enough hatred here for any hurt feelings to be had to begin with, Pieter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: Your dismissal of people's opinions, however frequently and repetitively expressed, as "trolling" and all these other hyperbolic adjectives you've conjured up, is a tad silly friendo. Perhaps more than a tad. Good grief! "Dismissal of people's opinions"? You are literally making that up! Only an hour ago I wrote this: 1 hour ago, Pieter_Boelen said: For the people who do like him, good for them! Why should anyone object to that? And for those who don't, that's their full right; I sincerely hope they have other music to enjoy instead. That is not "dismissal of people's opinions". It is the complete polar opposite. The word "trolling" in this context was used first by RPurton above. I only reused it, so don't put that on me. And yes, this whole affair IS silly. It is the very definition of silly. You'll hear no argument from me there. It is silly behaviour leading to more silly behaviour in an ever-downwards spiral of silliness. All I have done is to point out that it is silly. I can stop pointing it out, but that doesn't stop it from being silly. I wish for it to DO stop being silly. But I do not have the power to do that. Not by myself. Since there are many people involved in the silliness here, the only way to put an end to it is if we all decide to stop it. Or if we, at the very least, decide to limit the silliness to specific sections of the forum that could be easily avoided. Then the people who want to be silly on purpose and actually enjoy pointless toxic arguments can go ahead and do just that. But at least it won't be forced onto the people who are not interested. Unlike now, where it can and does crop up at any time and in any place. Giftheck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Silly people stop being silly! (sounds right out of a Marx Brothers movie) Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I really enjoy the stark title of this thread. Something perfectly comedic about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 17 minutes ago, Pieter_Boelen said: "Dismissal of people's opinions"? You are literally making that up! Only an hour ago I wrote this: That is not "dismissal of people's opinions". It is the complete polar opposite. The word "trolling" in this context was used first by RPurton above. I only reused it, so don't put that on me. And yes, this whole affair IS silly. It is the very definition of silly. You'll hear no argument from me there. It is silly behaviour leading to more silly behaviour in an ever-downwards spiral of silliness. All I have done is to point out that it is silly. I can stop pointing it out, but that doesn't stop it from being silly. I wish for it to DO stop being silly. But I do not have the power to do that. Not by myself. Since there are many people involved in the silliness here, the only way to put an end to it is if we all decide to stop it. Or if we, at the very least, decide to limit the silliness to specific sections of the forum that could be easily avoided. Then the people who want to be silly on purpose and actually enjoy pointless toxic arguments can go ahead and do just that. But at least it won't be forced onto the people who are not interested. Unlike now, where it can and does crop up at any time and in any place. Especially on every thread about Giacchino's work. It's as if some people are actively trying to change the opinions of the people who like Giacchino's work. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 I assume MGFAN would be a pale imitation of JWFAN, attempting to capture a similar style but with less engaging forums. The forums however, would have neat, punny titles. Pieter Boelen and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Believe me, I'd like nothing more than for Giacchino to 'git gud'. God knows, I've given him enough chances, I've trialled his music many a time over the years. But it just won't come. So when I see people comparing him with John Williams - and by extension Jerry Goldsmith and James Horner - I am proactively dismissive of these perplexing and insulting(!) views. Giacchino isn't fit to sniff JW's shit! He never will be! It'd be great if he was, but he's had plenty of time to demonstrate it now, and it just isn't happening. So when I slag off Gia's music and his low level position in the talent heiarchy, you can be absolutely certain I'm mainly trolling the people who in the past have claimed the guy is a suiter to the throne (and they know who they are). @Pieter_Boelen For the record this doesn't mean you. Bilbo and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Quintus said: Believe me, I'd like nothing more than for Giacchino to 'git gud'. or to get rekt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 @thestat I'm not entirely sure what the goal of this thread was for you: You start by critiquing the recording techniques of the engineers who record his music, then praise a bunch of his work, without a clear discussion point you're trying to get others to elaborate on. It's no surprise this turned into a Giacchino bashing thread, so I'm going to go ahead and merge it into the existing main Giacchino thread. Now everyone, feel free to genuinely discuss recording techniques and/or his music here, let's not just emptily bash his stuff over and over again. There's nothing wrong with not liking his music whatsoever, but let's have an actual discussion about it and not just empty bashing. Thanks! Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Here is a slightly longer trailer for the upcoming concert at the Royal Albert Hall in October. See also here an interview from Starburst in which Giacchino answers some questions. James and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, Omen II said: Here is a slightly longer trailer for the upcoming concert at the Royal Albert Hall in October. See also here an interview from Starburst in which Giacchino answers some questions. He's a liar! Quote As such a prolific composer, do you instantly know when you’ve hit upon a great theme or piece of music, and is it then a case of matching to right project? I always write the music after I see the film, not before. Or he's already forgotten about Jupiter Ascending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 Surely Gia watched some of it before, not thinking about sync points, but characters etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 He wrote it based off the script. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 19 hours ago, Omen II said: See also here an interview from Starburst in which Giacchino answers some questions. Thanks for sharing, I enjoyed reading that. The question about Rogue One and the timecrunch was kind of interesting Quote You only had four weeks to complete the Rogue One score – did you have to adapt your way of working given the short time period, or was it a case of “just getting on with it”? I had been planning a vacation following Dr. Strange, after having finished Book Of Henry, Zootopia and Star Trek Beyond. But this was STAR WARS! And that original trilogy is one of the main reasons I am in the business that I am in today. As a kid, I was inspired not only by the adventures of Luke Skywalker and Han Solo, but by John Williams and his fantastic score. I knew back then that I was going to work in film, and here was my chance to be a part of the Star Wars universe. I had to make it work, time crunch or not. I basically sat down and went to work as I normally do, creating themes for characters. Looking back, I think my adrenaline shot up so quickly, all I was thinking of was getting it done, and getting it done at a level that I would be happy with if I, as a fan, saw it in a theatre. I talked to my brother about it, and he said, “Come on, you’ve been writing this since you were 10 years old.” The magnitude of it didn’t really hit me until the first day of the recording sessions. We were at Fox, and we used the original Star Wars main title as a warm-up, to have some fun and test our mics. When those musicians started playing that music, I thought, “This is absolutely insane that I get to be doing this.” And then I got really scared. But everyone at Lucasfilm was so supportive, and we really ended up having a lot of fun during the sessions. It actually ties into this bit from a later question Quote Since I work with many of the same directors over and over, I often have been speaking to them about their script a lot earlier than the usual time a composer would come in on the project. So, these ideas begin marinating in my brain and by the time I see the first cut, I have a good sense of what the story is that the director wants to tell. This really explains why Rogue One isn't that effective for me: Usually, he knows the story and characters of a score he's going to write years in advance, so when he sits down to write it, he has already done years of subconscious writing, marinating on what he knows before he sees a first cut. With Rogue One, it was a true 4 week rush job, where he didn't know thing one about the film until he got the gig. And it shows. greenturnedblue 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I still think it's impressive, a four week deadline with no army of ghostwriters and just the sheer dread of getting it done must've been a killer. I don't think it's a great score, but I think it works with the film. James 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DominicCobb 194 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 I think the score is pretty good actually, and he says it right there, the ideas of a Star Wars score has been marinating in his head for decades. Maybe not that specific story, but it's not like he was working from scratch at go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 It's one of the better Giacchino scores written for a live-action feature film. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted August 22, 2017 Share Posted August 22, 2017 The result is not your best, but it's easy to forgive him for it. The guy has been thinking about working with SW for all his life and he suddenly sees the possibility of doing it, but he can not give it all because of the time. Maybe if it was not SW, with all the hype around of the project, he would have done something better. Yeah, he doesn't look like a 50 years old. About the bland puns (they still do not make sense): Quote Yeah, it’s become somewhat of a thing, and it is a group effort. It actually started when I was working on Alias with my music editor, Stephen Davis. We would have these little contests about who could come up with the best title for the cue. He won most of the time, because he is really great at it. When I started working on other films with different music editors, they wanted to keep it up. It became a little contest between all of us, and it’s something we continue to this day. Some people love them, and some consider it the lowest of humour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Have you seen the special guests at Giacchino's 50th birthday concert? It's incredible. Not only is Giacchino personally there to conduct a few pieces throughout the concert, including world premieres, but check this list out - "Special guests Gareth Edwards (Rogue One), Colin Trevorrow (Jurassic World), Carlton Cuse (TV’s Lost) and Pixar alumni Pete Docter (Up, Inside Out), Brad Bird (The Incredibles, Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol) and Andrew Stanton (who worked with Giacchino on John Carter) will introduce music from their memorable collaborations with Michael." https://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/events/2017/michael-giacchino-at-50/ Will and James 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 Why doesn't he conduct his own recording sessions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 24, 2017 Share Posted August 24, 2017 3 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: Have you seen the special guests at Giacchino's 50th birthday concert? It's incredible. Not only is Giacchino personally there to conduct a few pieces throughout the concert, including world premieres, but check this list out - "Special guests Gareth Edwards (Rogue One), Colin Trevorrow (Jurassic World), Carlton Cuse (TV’s Lost) and Pixar alumni Pete Docter (Up, Inside Out), Brad Bird (The Incredibles, Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol) and Andrew Stanton (who worked with Giacchino on John Carter) will introduce music from their memorable collaborations with Michael." https://www.royalalberthall.com/tickets/events/2017/michael-giacchino-at-50/ Quite impressive!! 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Why doesn't he conduct his own recording sessions? Because he's not a good conductor, and because her prefers to be in the booth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James 119 Posted August 31, 2017 Share Posted August 31, 2017 Another Giacchino's interview. This time in a comic book store. JWMike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted September 28, 2017 Share Posted September 28, 2017 Okay this is getting insane! The guest-list just keeps getting more impressive for Giacchino's Royal Albert Hall 50th Birthday concert. As of now, he'll be joined on-stage by J.J Abrams, Matt Reeves, Brad Bird, Pete Docter, Gareth Edwards, Andrew Stanton, Colin Trevorrow, and Carlton Cuse. https://www.royalalberthall.com/about-the-hall/news/2017/september/j-j-abrams-and-matt-reeves-join-stellar-cast-of-michael-giacchino-celebration/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTGL 173 Posted October 12, 2017 Share Posted October 12, 2017 I am going to this concert. The guest-list is impressive indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 I am psyched. I have been looking forward to this concert for 15 years, since I found music files in the installation folder of Medal Of Honor: Allied Assault. Listening to his oeuvre grow since then has led all the way up to this performance! I am really hoping for Pin-Ultimate Experience. Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omen II 1,235 Posted October 20, 2017 Share Posted October 20, 2017 It’s about to start! 😀 JWMike and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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