Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 Indeed. It will be interesting to see how the movie is spotted and how many pop songs are tracked in (inevitable given the time period). Bridge of Spies rather notably didn't have a single score cue for the first 30 minutes or so of the movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 I reckon huge chunks of the OST will be the standard concert arrangements which aren't in the movie. He did the same for Lincoln and Munich, because both films were sparesly scored but he wanted to elaborate on his ideas. Even then, it won't be a long OST. They might pad it out with source music, ala CMIYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 1, 2017 Share Posted November 1, 2017 He could fill an entire CD with source music and concert arrangements, and not put a single bit of actual score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2017 Then I guess we'll have to wait for the video game. MikeH, artguy360, Chewy and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 I got confused for a while...so it's not called The Papers anymore? I thought I was getting a third JW score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 3, 2017 Share Posted November 3, 2017 You really need to read JWFan more often KM On 8/27/2017 at 11:59 AM, mrbellamy said: Back to The Post. Chewy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 So what are we expecting from the score now, based on the trailer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,318 Posted November 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2017 Hard to judge from a trailer but maybe there'll be a ticking clock element to the film, if it's a race against time to post the story? JW could do some cool synth stuff with that. Just hope it has some of the conspiracy type music from his Oliver Stone movies. In fact, he might channel that style of writing for the film overall. Presumably he'll write a theme for Streep given she's clearly a strong, female protagonist dealing with conflict on many fronts, which is music to JW's ears with his noble/patriotic writing. Will, Not Mr. Big and Ludwig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I bet it'll sound like Catch Me if You Can meets Lincoln meets The Book Thief meets Stepmom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 1,120 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 8 minutes ago, crumbs said: Just hope it has some of the conspiracy type music from his Oliver Stone movies. In fact, he might channel that style of writing for the film overall. Presumably he'll write a theme for Streep given she's clearly a strong, female protagonist dealing with conflict on many fronts, which is music to JW's ears with his noble/patriotic writing. I was just going to say as much. The plot seems very focused on the kind of morality, politics, and patriotism that characterize Stone's films, and with courtroom scenes included as well, it seems most like JFK. Perhaps we'll get a similar theme to JFK, which has a do-the-right-thing kind of vibe. But somehow I sense the main theme will be much darker and less "heroic" than the JFK main theme. Which is cool. I'm always down with darker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Looks like a film that needs about 5 minutes of score. Doesn't quite reflect the stories of doom we've heard though. Looks quite good actually. Not Mr. Big and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I imagine it'll be a 30/40 minute score at the most Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I expect the spotting to be very sparse also. I might be mistaken but it seems like not a lot of the OST in Lincoln was in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 I'm excited for this one (film and score)! I can't hazard a guess as to the kind of sound JW will bring, but I sure admire how they used Helvetica throughout the trailer. Nicely done. : ) Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Just hope it has some of the conspiracy type music from his Oliver Stone movies. I hope not but that's exactly what it will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 For the love of God, please no more Americana. crumbs and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 Feed it to me. I hunger. I hunger for Americana. Let it dribble down my chin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 The film reminds me of All the president's Men. I would like for Williams to write the most minimalistic score of his entire career, to see how that would sound! Up until now I think it's Munich. (although the main theme is not minimalistic at all) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 8, 2017 I want an entirely solo piano score played by Johnny himself! crumbs, Smeltington, Once and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 5 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I want an entirely solo piano score played by Johnny himself! Oh, that would be VERY VERY interesting indeed! (like The Firm was) or maybe a score only for percussion! (including marimba, vibraphone and such instruments too). Unfortunately Williams doesn't think outside of his comfort zone nowadays.. (at least in film music) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted November 8, 2017 Share Posted November 8, 2017 It's not so much that he doesn't think outside the box, it's more what Spielberg wants -or at least what I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Feed it to me. I hunger. I hunger for Americana. Let it dribble down my chin. I need to resist...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Muad'Dib said: It's not so much that he doesn't think outside the box, it's more what Spielberg wants -or at least what I think. well, maybe. But I'm sure if Williams suggested something, Spielberg would accept it. I assume he trusts him after all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2017 Yeah, I think it's a little of both. Williams could probably push himself more, but Spielberg could also be pushing both himself and JW. Possibly Williams just knows too well by now exactly what Spielberg likes. As it is their collaboration is still pretty satisfying to me in its familiarity, with reliably lovely themes that tug the ol heartstrings by the final scenes while throwing in novelties here and there (Tintin opening titles, Dream Jars) Still feel like Last Jedi could potentially have more of those curiosities than his scores have had in a little while, purely based on the unknown quantity of Rian Johnson's choices/preferences for this type of movie and score. Even though obviously it's ultimately going to be an 8th Star Wars, Johnson is the youngest director Williams will probably ever work with at this point and at least comes from more of an "indie" background than anybody Williams has worked with lately. Hopefully the film will have something in its technique or sense of atmosphere that might exploit or emphasize other sides of Williams than the routine, whether that might mean chamber-like music or more horrific-sounding suspense/action writing or something more impressionistic or religioso. Whatever! Not Mr. Big, Cerebral Cortex and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoltan_902 141 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I'm still holding out for another JW score that's as rich and sweeping and thematic as the first Harry Potter. I discovered JW through that film, and it will always be his strongest work to me. Bridge of Spies had relatively little music in it to accommodate Spielberg's original intention of Disney releasing JW from TFA only for a couple of weeks to write the score. Then alas, a pace-maker operation came in the way. You'd think if Williams had to forfeit (for scheduling reasons) one Spielberg film over another, in this case RPO, he'd pick the one that offer the most fulfilling challenge to him? Unless he's really slowing down and only picking the projects that are easier (but that wouldn't explain committing to a whole Star Wars sequel trilogy).... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 30 minutes ago, zoltan_902 said: I'm still holding out for another JW score that's as rich and sweeping and thematic as the first Harry Potter. I discovered JW through that film, and it will always be his strongest work to me. Bridge of Spies had relatively little music in it to accommodate Spielberg's original intention of Disney releasing JW from TFA only for a couple of weeks to write the score. Then alas, a pace-maker operation came in the way. You'd think if Williams had to forfeit (for scheduling reasons) one Spielberg film over another, in this case RPO, he'd pick the one that offer the most fulfilling challenge to him? Unless he's really slowing down and only picking the projects that are easier (but that wouldn't explain committing to a whole Star Wars sequel trilogy).... Is it really surprising that he picked this over RPO? RPO looks awful. Like a horrible video game. It's an understandable that an octegenerian will have little to no interest in it. Hell I am in my twenties and it is too teen looking even for me. Post offers him a much more prestigious film that will be seen with great interest by all the critics and industry people and discerning audiences. Not to say he is chasing awards but I think in context, this movie offers a more interesting opportunity to Williams over RPO. Once and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The trailer for this movie gave me the impression that it's a film in the mold of Lincoln with lots of patriotic monologues and people of virtue choosing to stand by their convictions. I fear this means this will result in another Americana, Lincoln-esque score instead of something more unique. Don't get me wrong, I really enjoy Lincoln both film and score but I was hoping The Post would be a film about journalism ala Spotlight and lead to a unique score from JW. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 13 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: Is it really surprising that he picked this over RPO? RPO looks awful. Like a horrible video game. It's an understandable that an octegenerian will have little to no interest in it. Hell I am in my twenties and it is too teen looking even for me. Post offers him a much more prestigious film that will be seen with great interest by all the critics and industry people and discerning audiences. Not to say he is chasing awards but I think in context, this movie offers a more interesting opportunity to Williams over RPO. Also consider the sheer amount of time he has to spend actually watching these things, he'd probably much rather be scrutinizing Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep (who mind you he's never written music for before!) than a bunch of unfinished CGI and TJ Miller running around in front of a green screen. Especially after just spending half a year with 2.5 hours of Star Wars. publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Though it probably will not result in music that is overly exciting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,715 Posted November 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2017 2 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Also consider the sheer amount of time he has to spend actually watching these things, he'd probably much rather be scrutinizing Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep (who mind you he's never written music for before!) than a bunch of unfinished CGI and TJ Miller running around in front of a green screen. Especially after just spending half a year with 2.5 hours of Star Wars. Actually Johnny has written for Meryl Streep before. She was the voice of the Blue Fairy in A.I. Once, TheUlyssesian and mrbellamy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 Haha I knew someone would mention that. Not the same! 24 minutes ago, publicist said: Though it probably will not result in music that is overly exciting... Unfortunately we probably did lose out a bit with this trade-off but I like to keep it in perspective as a fan of an 85 year old. I want the music but I also want him to enjoy himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I would rather enjoy Spielberg doing a rousing historical movie for a change (the Trumbo script, for instance), but more oscar-friendly 'liberal' self-congratulation it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I'm really trying not to think about that one anymore at this point. But even the Mortara thing probably would have been a little more interesting, even just for the change of setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 ANYTHING would be a little more interesting than 'The Post'. mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 YouTube on my phone just put the trailer for this in front of me so I watched it. Starring the two highest ranking luvvies in all of Hollywood, The Papers, or "Vignette: The Movie" (seriously tired of Kamiński now) looks to be the biggest Oscar bait of Spielberg's entire career, yes even more than Schindler's List was. Of course, it'll be perfectly constructed and oh so elegantly played, but I just don't have the mood for it. The Williams score, well, I've already heard it dozens of times before. Boring all round! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 17 minutes ago, Quintus said: The Williams score, well, I've already heard it dozens of times before. Boring all round! Huh? where do you know how the score's gonna be? Or you're guessing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 It's going to feature two things: Americana, and a conspiracy theme ala the presidential films... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 18 hours ago, Scintillating_CA said: I'm excited for this one (film and score)! I can't hazard a guess as to the kind of sound JW will bring, but I sure admire how they used Helvetica throughout the trailer. Nicely done. : ) They should have used Comic Sans to make it a bit funnier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sandor 797 Posted November 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2017 Just an idea of what the CD cover might look like. Will, Cerebral Cortex and Disco Stu 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I feel like the poster art will be bordered with white, and the Williams and OST credits will feature in the border (in black text, presumably). A bit like The Last Crusade's OST cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 6 minutes ago, crumbs said: I feel like the poster art will be bordered with white, and the Williams and OST credits will feature in the border (in black text, presumably). A bit like The Last Crusade's OST cover. Yeah could be..! Was thinking about it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Sandor said: Just an idea of what the CD cover might look like. Why would the actors be credited on the soundtrack cover? Is it usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 9, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 9, 2017 26 minutes ago, crumbs said: I feel like the poster art will be bordered with white, and the Williams and OST credits will feature in the border (in black text, presumably). There you go: publicist, TheUlyssesian and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I had this. 9 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: Why would the actors be credited on the soundtrack cover? Is it usual? It was quite unusual, but -for example- LINCOLN did it. The promotion of Lincoln was heavily focussed on Daniel Day Lewis' perfomance and hence his name was promptly feautured on posters and such, even the soundtrack cover. I see with The Post a similar trend: HANKS and STREEP are everywhere, and it's a Spielberg-film, just like Lincoln. It could very well be incorporated in the final CD artwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The credit for Williams will be "Composed and Conducted By". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 5 minutes ago, crumbs said: The credit for Williams will be "Composed and Conducted By". Lincoln and TFA had ‘Music By’... It’s no longer a given... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 I dunno why Lincoln was worded that way, but TFA had to be that way because Ross and that other guy conducted a bunch of cues Williams conducted all of TLJ and The Post himself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,666 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 This is the second past tense post I have read about the recording of the score. I know there were sessions. Do we know if the recording of the score is completely done, or are we just assuming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 4 minutes ago, Tom said: This is the second past tense post I have read about the recording of the score. I know there were sessions. Do we know if the recording of the score is completely done, or are we just assuming? Yes, the film is finished. Spielberg will lock sound mix next Monday: http://www.indiewire.com/2017/11/steven-spielberg-the-post-ready-player-one-ben-mendelsohn-arthur-miller-writer-1201895214/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 9, 2017 Share Posted November 9, 2017 The score finished recording on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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