Star Wars: Rogue Squadron (2023)

[TheUlyssesian 2,478]

Will Patty return for it though?

[crumbs 14,316]

Ahhh, the classic "scheduling conflict" excuse!

 

Seems to be a trend with Lucasfilm, after prematurely hiring "the next big thing." D&D's Star Wars trilogy was quietly shelved after the final season of GOT, Josh Trank was fired after his Fantastic Four meltdown (and the Boba Fett film was retooled as a TV show), Rian Johnson's trilogy will clearly never happen (and I say that as a huge fan of TLJ), and now there's "scheduling conflicts" with Patty Jenkins a few months after the critical drubbing of WW84.

 

Seems the franchise is at a crossroads and they can't decide between films or Disney+ series (especially after the latter has proven so successful).

[mstrox 6,651]

Probably the same scheduling conflict that Desplat had

[TheUlyssesian 2,478]

I think Kathleen is very touchy.

 

She has now fired 8 directors from Star Wars films I think.

 

 

[Tallguy 3,389]

17 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said:

I think Kathleen is very touchy.

 

Yup. I like Solo a lot. But I always wonder what could have been.

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• Edwards (Rogue One)
• Trank (abandoned Boba Fett film)
• Lord and Miller (Solo)
• Trevorrow (Episode IX)
• Benioff and Weiss (abandoned Old Republic trilogy)
• Jenkins? (Rogue Squadron)

 

Arguably Johnson as well, though I doubt his "new trilogy" ever progressed beyond the 'conversations' phase. He'd already moved onto other projects after TLJ wrapped.

 

I hope Waititi isn't next; his is the only film I'm looking forward to!

[Manakin Skywalker 4,893]

In that case it'll probably be at least another 5 or so years before we get another film, considering that Old Republic film rumor is most definitely bullshit.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

Best Star Wars News in a long time (ago). It just made my day!

Disney ultimately makes a pause between Star Wars Films even though it doesn't seems to be willingly but because of Kennedy unstoppable ability to fire directors away...

[crocodile 8,012]

11 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Star Wars: Patty Jenkins' Rogue Squadron Delayed Indefinitely

 

Good news for Wonder Woman fans, I guess, now that the third movie will probably come out sooner than RS.

Hans! Hans! Hans! 

 

Karol

[Brando 1,863]

18 hours ago, crumbs said:

Ahhh, the classic "scheduling conflict" excuse!

 

Seems to be a trend with Lucasfilm, after prematurely hiring "the next big thing." D&D's Star Wars trilogy was quietly shelved after the final season of GOT, Josh Trank was fired after his Fantastic Four meltdown (and the Boba Fett film was retooled as a TV show), Rian Johnson's trilogy will clearly never happen (and I say that as a huge fan of TLJ), and now there's "scheduling conflicts" with Patty Jenkins a few months after the critical drubbing of WW84.

 

Seems the franchise is at a crossroads and they can't decide between films or Disney+ series (especially after the latter has proven so successful).

https://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy
 

I feel like if Rian Johnson’s trilogy was canceled, this article would’ve been removed from the website. I hope it’s not canceled, I’d love to see what he could do with a trilogy.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

I'd love to see what he'd do when not forced to play in JJ's playground

[Jay 37,364]

Disney has removed Rogue Squadron from its release schedule

[Edmilson 7,454]

So now the only Star Wars movie that is currently in production is Taika Waititi's? And I don't even trust that one after the mixed reception of the latest Thor flick.

[Jay 37,364]

Ep 7 and 8 are the only 2 Disney Star Wars movies that got released with their original directors staying on the whole time

 

Josh Trank's Boba Fett movie : canceled

 

Rogue One : Gareth Edwards not on hand for rewrites and reshoots done by Tony Gilroy

 

Solo: Phil Lord and Christopher Miller fired, Ron Howard replaces

 

Episode 9 : Colin Trevorrow fired, JJ Abrams replaces

 

Obi-Wan movie : turned into TV series

 

Benioff & Weiss's trilogy: canceled

 

Rian Johnson's trilogy : seemingly canceled

 

Patty Jenkin's Rogue Squadron : seemingly canceled

 

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Kevin Feige's movie : still happening?

 

Taika Waititi's movie : still happening?

[Anthony 572]

It's almost like they have no clue what they're doing...

[Tallguy 3,389]

Didn't I see something with Kennedy (the internet tells me that she's going to be fired any. Day. Now. We. Mean. It!) that they have no current plans for movies? 

[Jay 37,364]

Technically true.

 

They've announced this for a schedule:

 

December 2022: Avatar 2

December 2023: Star Wars

December 2024: Avatar 3

December 2025: Star Wars

December 2026: Avatar 4

December 2027: Star Wars

December 2028: Avatar 5

 

But have not announced which Star Wars projects in development will get assigned which date.

 

And at this point, since they haven't started filming yet, it's unlikely there will be one done in time for December 2023.

[Brando 1,863]

28 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

 

Rogue One : Gareth Edwards fired, tony Gilroy reshoots and reedits

 

 

He was fired?

[Jay 37,364]

Wasn't he?  If I'm misremembering, please share what happened

[Faleel 5,348]

29 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

 

Patty Abram's Rogue Squadron : seemingly canceled

 

 

Who?

[Jay 37,364]

Typo fixed

[Brando 1,863]

3 minutes ago, Jay said:

Wasn't he?  If I'm misremembering, please share what happened

I just Googled if he was and nothing came up, I don't think he was fired, I think Gilroy came in to help with the reshoots/rewrites. If he was fired I don't think he would return at the 5 year anniversary for an interview with SW.com

[Jay 37,364]

Alrighty then

[enderdrag64 624]

I believe him being fired was just speculation. There's no question he was replaced with Tony Gilroy near the end of production, but he seemingly still stuck around for the film's marketing.

[Edmilson 7,454]

I vaguely remember a video of Edwards with Giacchino during the end of the recording sessions, thanking the musicians for their hard work. But I might be wrong.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,893]

Yeah he wasn't "fired", just not invited back to direct the reshoots. He was still involved with post production though.

[Jay 37,364]

OK, changed my post

[Groovygoth666 668]

Gareth was working on the reshoots as well, from December 2016 -

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“When we did the pickup shoots, Tony came in to write the screenplay for those scenes, and because we shot it documentary-style and had so much material, essentially, we ended up being a bit crunched for time. So we all dove in and did different things: Tony did some second-unit on the pickup shoot and so did I, and we went from 600 visual effects to 1,600 visual effects.”

 

And he shot the Vader corridor scene, which was a last minute addition -

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[Vader] arrives and obliterates the Calamari ship, and then the blockade runner gets out just in time and he pursues the blockade runner. And then Jabez was like, ‘I think we need to get Darth on that ship,’ and I thought, yeah, that’s a brilliant idea and would love to do it, but there’s no way they’re going to let us do it. It’s a big number and we had, what, like 3 or 4 months before release. Kathy [Kennedy] came in and Jabez thought, f*ck it, and pitched her this idea, and she loved it. Suddenly within a week or two we were at Pinewood shooting that scene.

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“Then, through just the way things just played out, it had sort of slipped by that we didn’t have this T. Rex ‘Jurassic Park’ moment of the main bad guy coming back at the very end. Jabez brought it up and said, ‘We should do this. How about if he’s in the sequence that leads to the blockade runner?’ And I was like, ‘Yeah, I’d love to do that, obviously, but we’re just out of time.’ So when Kathy came in to look at something, Jabez just brought it up with her, and she went, ‘That’s a great idea.’

So suddenly we were allowed to do it. It was this last-minute scramble where we all went to Pinewood a few weeks later and were shooting that. It was weird. I felt like, when we were filming it, I didn’t realize how significant it would be in the film. I just thought it was a nice little cherry on top. I really didn’t think it would be what everyone talked about when they talk about the movie. I just thought it was just tying a bow, having a Vader reprise at the end of the story. “

“You sort of play out your career in your mind and think, ‘I’m never going to do anything that significant again where it means so much to me to get to play in that sandpit with Darth Vader at the end of that film.’ And obviously, I’ve got my cameo in there, launching the ship.

 

[Luke Skywalker 1,795]

What a mess the future of sw is.

[DangerMotif 1,037]

3 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:

What a mess the future of sw is.

It's really sad that the future of Star Wars is their mediocre Volume Disney+ show. Andor is the only one that didn't use "the Volume" and looks pretty great

[Not Mr. Big 4,639]

Can't wait!

[Groovygoth666 668]

3 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said:

What a mess the future of sw is.

I dunno, apart from TLJ and the animated stuff Disney Star Wars has consistently had messy productions, with the main idea be let's film whatever and figure out how to fix it later and hope it works out. 

[GerateWohl 4,369]

18 hours ago, Jay said:

Kevin Feige's movie : still happening?

 

Taika Waititi's movie : still happening?

Isn't that one and the same?

[Jay 37,364]

No? 

[GerateWohl 4,369]

I thought, I first heard Kevin Feige is going to produce a Star Wars movie and then he brought in Taika Waititi as director for it. But I might be wrong.

[Pellaeon 593]

Yeah, I thought Kennedy and Feige were going to produce the next three Star Wars films (originally slated for 2022 - 2024 - 2026), which were all going to have different directors.

[mstrox 6,651]

I’m begging, BEGGING you all to consider the source when you read movie news on the internet!

[Pellaeon 593]

Can you be more plain in what you are suggesting, and why it’s such a big deal to you?

[Drew 590]

I hope Jenkins leaves the project after all the delays. We don’t need a Zimmer Star Wars score.

[mstrox 6,651]

3 hours ago, Pellaeon said:

Can you be more plain in what you are suggesting, and why it’s such a big deal to you?

Don’t think I could state it plainer if I tried.

[PokeDocMatt 57]

I don’t particularly care who does Rogue Squadron (as long as it’s not Rian Johnson), I just want it made. Disney and Kennedy are clueless if they think that a Rogue Squadron film wouldn’t have a good chance of being commercially successful and a fantastic film. Of all the “legacy” Star Wars media, Rogue Squadron, from the books to the comics to the video games, probably had some of the greatest reach. 

[Brando 1,863]

6 hours ago, Pellaeon said:

Can you be more plain in what you are suggesting, and why it’s such a big deal to you?

There’s a guy on YouTube named Mike Zeroh who uploads videos weekly of events and discussions and stuff and none of it has ever come true. He is one of the most clickbaitiest clickbaiters there is. And he gets thousands of views somehow. It’s a big deal because these people are straight up making stuff up and feeding it to hungry idiots. 

[SilverTrumpet 638]

On 15/09/2022 at 2:55 PM, Jay said:

Ep 7 and 8 are the only 2 Disney Star Wars movies that got released with their original directors staying on the whole time

 

Josh Trank's Boba Fett movie : canceled

 

Rogue One : Gareth Edwards not on hand for rewrites and reshoots done by Tony Gilroy

 

Solo: Phil Lord and Christopher Miller fired, Ron Howard replaces

 

Episode 9 : Colin Trevorrow fired, JJ Abrams replaces

 

Obi-Wan movie : turned into TV series

 

Benioff & Weiss's trilogy: canceled

 

Rian Johnson's trilogy : seemingly canceled

 

Patty Jenkin's Rogue Squadron : seemingly canceled

 

~

 

Kevin Feige's movie : still happening?

 

Taika Waititi's movie : still happening?

 

...and even then, Episode 7 had tons of production problems. They had their big falling out with Lucas, they lost Michael Arndt, they had a big delay that pushed the movie from May 2015 to December 2015 which pushed everything back along with it. 

 

The funniest part is the only movie without massive production issues is the one that tore the world in half. 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,893]

25 minutes ago, Brando said:

There’s a guy on YouTube named Mike Zeroh who uploads videos weekly of events and discussions and stuff and none of it has ever come true. He is one of the most clickbaitiest clickbaiters there is. And he gets thousands of views somehow. It’s a big deal because these people are straight up making stuff up and feeding it to hungry idiots. 

 

Oh I'm sure everyone here knows who that is. 

[Drew 590]

I would love another Rian Johnson-directed Star Wars film. He just needs to direct and not be involved with the writing. Star Wars always does better when a director distances themself from the screenplay.

[mstrox 6,651]

The problem is equally applied to dozens of sites and channels like ScreenRant, Inside The Magic, etc etc as well, and they spread like mad on social media and get tons of people to believe fanpleasing or fan-enraging nonsense, and then when the nonsense doesn’t comes true, the noise around it perpetuates the cycle.  These people don’t deserve attention or clicks, but they have it down to an art.

 

One of the trades touched on it a bit lately for non-Star-Wars.

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/marvel-fans-sad-henry-cavill-jodie-comer-1235218078/amp/

[Brando 1,863]

34 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

 

Oh I'm sure everyone here knows who that is. 

I’m sure, he just came to mind first🤣

I didn’t even consider the numerous websites who constantly put out bullshit since they’ve got nothing better to do. 

[Tallguy 3,389]

Heh. Remember a couple of years ago when all these sites were saying that none of the announced Star Trek shows would ever see the light of day?

[Jay 37,364]

22 hours ago, mstrox said:

I’m begging, BEGGING you all to consider the source when you read movie news on the internet!

 

This is good advice in general, but I am perplexed why you have chosen to remind us of this here, in this thread, now. 

 

Because Disney had in fact removed Rogue Squadron from their schedule. This isn't some internet rumor, it's just a thing they did. Here's a reuters source for you

 

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/disney-removes-star-wars-film-rogue-squadron-schedule-2022-09-16/

 

So why are you choosing here in this thread to get on your high horse about rumors, when nobody here is talking about rumors at all? 

[mstrox 6,651]

The two posts immediately before mine about Feige’s planned movie are straight from the clickbait misinfo factory, and sharing them as fact just perpetuates the misinformation even if you aren’t citing the original source.