Jay 37,368 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I had forgotten this piece already premiered at a public concert this June. Am I correct in thinking there was no broadcast of the concert, and no one on JWFan has heard it yet? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted August 29, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 29, 2021 If this was to be broadcast at some point would be on Catalunya Ràdio. I've been checking it daily, but no luck so far. Back in June, over at Facebook, I asked Gloria Cheng if the concert was due to broadcast but she never replied... Bayesian, Will and Jay 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocores 96 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 13 hours ago, Jay said: I had forgotten this piece already premiered at a public concert this June. Am I correct in thinking there was no broadcast of the concert, and no one on JWFan has heard it yet? I attended to the concert as I explained a few posts before yours. There was no broadcast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Thanks for the info, jocores, I forgot to say that earlier. I like the fact that the prelude is a calmer piece -- the rather frenetic scherzo needed that. Hope I get to hear it some day. jocores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jocores 96 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 14 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: If this was to be broadcast at some point would be on Catalunya Ràdio. I've been checking it daily, but no luck so far. Back in June, over at Facebook, I asked Gloria Cheng if the concert was due to broadcast but she never replied... I asked Marc Timón, and he said to me that it would not be broadcasted Miguel Andrade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted August 30, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2021 29 minutes ago, jocores said: I asked Marc Timón, and he said to me that it would not be broadcasted Thanks for the tip. I supposed that would be the case. 2 hours ago, Thor said: Hope I get to hear it some day. The work is due to recording with the Albany Symphony, under David Alan Miller right after the American premiere. My guess is that, as with most of the Albany Symphony recordings, this one will be out on Albany records. Tom Guernsey, Will, WilliamsStarShip2282 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 hours ago, jocores said: I attended to the concert as I explained a few posts before yours. There was no broadcast. Absolutely right! Just read it again, thanks for sharing your thoughts! jocores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 hour ago, jocores said: I asked Marc Timón, and he said to me that it would not be broadcasted When I asked he said it might be broadcast next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,368 Posted June 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2022 On 25/03/2021 at 7:10 PM, Miguel Andrade said: Since this is being premiered with the Albany SO under David Alan Miller and he usually seems to record his comissions on Albany Records, I would surely hope for a recording of Prelude and Scherzo in the near future. On 04/05/2021 at 3:41 AM, TownerFan said: Btw, Gloria confirmed me that the piece is going to be recorded by the Albany Symphony next year. On 30/08/2021 at 7:14 AM, Miguel Andrade said: The work is due to recording with the Albany Symphony, under David Alan Miller right after the American premiere. My guess is that, as with most of the Albany Symphony recordings, this one will be out on Albany records. This concert is TOMORROW! https://www.albanysymphony.com/upcomingconcerts/2022/6/4/american-music-festival-trailblaze Timo Martikainen, Andy and BB-8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post pete 907 Posted June 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 3, 2022 My head's exploding from all the new CDs, music, and concert work premieres. In my 30 years of being a fan, I don't recall a richer period... He should have turned 90 years ago! WilliamsStarShip2282, Bespin, Once and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 On 03/06/2022 at 10:18 AM, Jay said: This concert is TOMORROW! https://www.albanysymphony.com/upcomingconcerts/2022/6/4/american-music-festival-trailblaze But that's tonight! Also, Gabriella Smith is a fantastic young composer! What a wonderful program. Damn, we're in the renaissance of great music, there is so much talent and fine music being made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Rats, I saw this just after 4:30 pm PDT - so as the concert was starting and the system would not let me buy a digital ticket. Hopefully someone did and captured the stream. And hopefully an official release happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 I heard the piece a few months ago when it was played by Ralph van Raat and the North Netherlands Orchestra, the Prelude is a wonderful jazz-inspired piece that complements the Scherzo very well. Can’t wait for the piano concerto that he will write! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted June 5, 2022 Share Posted June 5, 2022 On 5/6/2022 at 3:47 AM, Remco said: I heard the piece a few months ago when it was played by Ralph van Raat and the North Netherlands Orchestra, the Prelude is a wonderful jazz-inspired piece that complements the Scherzo very well. Can’t wait for the piano concerto that he will write! Very cool. And having just looked van Raat up, I see he is performing it again on June 21, 2022. https://ralphvanraat.com/event/national-belgian-orchestra-and-ralph-van-raat/ Oops. Misread it. False alarm. Remco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 Unfortunately not: https://www.bozar.be/en/calendar/fete-de-la-musique-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 16 hours ago, fommes said: Unfortunately not: https://www.bozar.be/en/calendar/fete-de-la-musique-0 Ahh. I misread it. Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 I'm stupid for not even checking to see if it was streamed! Hopefully it will surface someplace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post jocores 96 Posted September 29, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 29, 2022 The Palau de la música català has just published the Prelude and Scherzo as played by Gloria Cheng las summer, for free. Here you can watch it: https://www.palaudigital.cat/destacats/videos/preludi-i-scherzo-de-john-williams Ricard, BB-8, ragoz350 and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 Awesome! jocores 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falstaft 2,132 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 2 hours ago, jocores said: The Palau de la música català has just published the Prelude and Scherzo as played by Gloria Cheng las summer, for free. Here you can watch it: https://www.palaudigital.cat/destacats/videos/preludi-i-scherzo-de-john-williams Magnificent, thanks for sharing! There's a lot to dig into in that Prelude, isn't there! And afterwards, fascinating to hear the difference in tempi and approach between Gloria Cheng and Lang Lang. I have to say I much prefer Cheng's take. jocores and Miguel Andrade 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted September 29, 2022 Share Posted September 29, 2022 I really like the Prelude. While unique overall, it has some similarities to the first movement of Five Sacred Trees. There are cool little "Williams in concert mode" touches that really do unite his concert oeuvre taken together (which I suppose is what an oeuvre does) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanticStrings 10 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 17 hours ago, Tom said: There are cool little "Williams in concert mode" touches that really do unite his concert oeuvre taken together (which I suppose is what an oeuvre does) . I've never been quite able to articulate those "Williams in concert mode" touches. Perhaps it has to do with some atonality, clusters, less-defined melody. What are your thoughts on the details of those elements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJH132 48 Posted September 30, 2022 Share Posted September 30, 2022 Waiting for some quality album art for this audio... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted October 1, 2022 Share Posted October 1, 2022 12 hours ago, TJH132 said: Waiting for some quality album art for this audio... Waiting for that album to be released, per the title of this thread… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 The Prelude is nice! Reminds me of the first movement of the Viola Concerto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,983 Posted October 3, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 3, 2022 Now on YouTube as well: Will, Falstaft, Nick Parker and 15 others 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamsStarShip2282 308 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 This is a great piece, would be a great overture to a concerto in a concert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 I think a third movement could make this piece feel more complete--something in the vein of the Horn concerto with first and last movements that bookend the piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 I love this little stretch. It is nice Williams's magical drama mode. Will and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJH132 48 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 On 02/10/2022 at 8:52 PM, Will said: The Prelude is nice! Reminds me of the first movement of the Viola Concerto. I hear a bit of Bassoon Concerto in the Prelude. Quite a nice introduction to the Scherzo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 I would say that this has the most exciting ending of any of Williams concerto-type pieces. The Tuba has a fun one, but he really lets everything rip in this one closer to his celebratory pieces and Soundings. He seems to have fun with it. I find it so odd that it came about 10 years ago with so little fanfare or comments from Williams. Whoever pestered him (I assume Cheng) to revisit it needs to be strongly thanked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tom said: Whoever pestered him (I assume Cheng) to revisit it needs to be strongly thanked. Here's your answer! https://thelegacyofjohnwilliams.com/2022/08/19/gloria-cheng-podcast/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 The prelude is absolutely beautiful and I love how metal Williams' piano writing can be, but I've felt for a long time that Williams can fall back on a lot of familiar territory in his concert music and seems to lean heavily on writing for particular instruments to escape the molds he's created for himself. When he doesn't have the idiosyncrasies of those instruments to force him to explore, you get something like this scherzo, which sounds almost temp-tracked and warmed over from...well, his scherzo in the Cello Concerto. Combine that with a pretty limp and wet-noodled motif that others have pointed out fits right in as a mid-tier supporting melody in a post-00s score, and I don't think the end result is very successful, some badass moments and effects notwithstanding. Remco and ragoz350 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Based on the title of this thread, this is going to be released, now that we're in 2023, anyone know the status? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,368 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 1 hour ago, karelm said: Based on the title of this thread, this is going to be released, now that we're in 2023, anyone know the status? On 29/09/2022 at 12:51 PM, jocores said: The Palau de la música català has just published the Prelude and Scherzo as played by Gloria Cheng las summer, for free. Here you can watch it: https://www.palaudigital.cat/destacats/videos/preludi-i-scherzo-de-john-williams On 03/10/2022 at 3:26 PM, TownerFan said: Now on YouTube as well: karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I haven't listened to this prelude enough to have any opinion of it. Trying to correct that now thanks to this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 Both live performances have been recorded and made available online (though the Albany one, just for subscribers). Additionally, a recording was made with the Albany Symphony for an upcoming CD release. To my knowledge, not final release date has been announced. WilliamsStarShip2282 and karelm 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 3 hours ago, Miguel Andrade said: Both live performances have been recorded and made available online (though the Albany one, just for subscribers). Additionally, a recording was made with the Albany Symphony for an upcoming CD release. To my knowledge, not final release date has been announced. Thanks - that upcoming CD release is what I'm looking for, not just a stream of the performance. Looking for the proper sonics, mastering, etc., of the commercial release. Basically, it's still TBD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 I thought, He would write a third movement to it before it gets recorded for an album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted January 7, 2023 Share Posted January 7, 2023 He said he will be writing a full piano concerto for Emanuel Ax. At the Albany premiere, Alan David Miller clear stated they were recording during that week the Prelude and Scherzo for a upcoming CD. WilliamsStarShip2282 and GerateWohl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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