Tydirium 1,167 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Oh man, wasn’t really looking forward to this show but I may have to tune in just to hear Abels! Really unexpected but exciting choice! Yavar Moradi and dyemery 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,582 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I love Abels' BAD EDUCATION, but his scores for the Peele films don't ignite me much (neither do the films themselves, for that matter). Will be interesting to see what he brings to the STAR WARS table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,975 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Bad Education is spectacular!!! Thor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,622 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 21/02/2024 at 4:53 PM, HunterTech said: It's definitely an interesting pick. I certainly appreciated how varied Nope was in its sound, even if the standout track was one that he'd already written years prior: 8 hours ago, DarthDementous said: Oo he's got orchestral chops, that could bode well indeed I still really dig the original 10+ min concert piece which is on YouTube (the same performance Jordan Peele ran across, apparently!) So awesome. My favorite new music in Nope is honestly his Morricone western homage...one of the very best I have ever heard. Yavar dyemery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,060 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: My favorite new music in Nope is honestly his Morricone western homage...one of the very best I have ever heard. Yavar Ya can't say that and then not post the track Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,622 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 5 hours ago, DarthDementous said: Ya can't say that and then not post the track Yavar DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DarthDementous 1,060 Posted February 24 Popular Post Share Posted February 24 4 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Yavar Oh wow, that's quite tasteful and also a great track. Bodes well for his ability to adopt other's musical styles This track is really nice, I've been checking out a bunch of random stuff from his repertoire and I've pretty much liked all of them. Very excited to see what he does with Star Wars Oh this is quite John Williams-y (or more accurately his influences! Yavar Moradi, dyemery, Not Mr. Big and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,033 Posted February 24 Popular Post Share Posted February 24 Having heard some of his concert output, and the few tracks posted above, I am even more excited about this. I hope they give him the opportunity to harken back to a more space opera classical idiom for this project, something that the concept (hopefully) might ask for. Fingers crossed! Karol Evanus, Yavar Moradi and DarthDementous 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JNHFan2000 2,975 Posted March 18 Popular Post Share Posted March 18 Trailer tomorrow! Premiere June 4th Suro-Zet, Brando and dyemery 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,400 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 Edit: Ooops should looked https://www.facebook.com/100044523785847/posts/959838962176888/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,456 Posted March 18 Author Popular Post Share Posted March 18 In The Acolyte, an investigation into a shocking crime spree pits a respected Jedi Master (Lee Jung-jae) against a dangerous warrior from his past (Amandla Stenberg). As more clues emerge, they travel down a dark path where sinister forces reveal all is not what it seems…. The series stars Amandla Stenberg, Lee Jung-jae, Manny Jacinto, Dafne Keen, Charlie Barnett, Jodie Turner-Smith, Rebecca Henderson, Dean-Charles Chapman, Joonas Suotamo, and Carrie-Anne Moss. The Acolyte comes from creator and showrunner Leslye Headland (Russian Doll), who also serves as executive producer alongside Kathleen Kennedy, Simon Emanuel, Jeff F. King, and Jason Micallef. Charmaine DeGraté and Kor Adana are the co-executive producers; Rayne Roberts, Damian Anderson, Rob Bredow, and Eileen Shim are producing. https://www.starwars.com/news/the-acolyte-teaser-poster Bayesian, Brando and enderdrag64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,526 Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 4 hours ago, Faleel said: Edit: Ooops should looked https://www.facebook.com/100044523785847/posts/959838962176888/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v This tagline kinda reminds me of Bane... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JNHFan2000 2,975 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 Finally! Lightsabers enderdrag64, Bayesian, Brando and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,424 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 "No lieutenant, your Jedi are already dead." Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,456 Posted March 19 Author Share Posted March 19 Nice to see Carrie-Anne Moss again! What they did with the O at the end reminded me of Lord of the RIngs marketing enderdrag64 and JNHFan2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,526 Posted March 19 Popular Post Share Posted March 19 The final shot of all the Jedi going to confront the single Sith (which means most of them will probably get slaughtered) reminds me of Obi-Wan's line to Palpatine in ROTS: "Sith Lords are our specialty". No, you moron, they're not! One Sith has been shown to be capable of soloing two or more Jedi for, what, centuries now?!? Even in the context of ROTS that line is funny because they haven't been able to defeat Dooku for 5 years or so and two minutes later Obi-Wan himself gets knocked out by the Count. Brando, Yavar Moradi, Andy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,072 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: The final shot of all the Jedi going to confront the single Sith (which means most of them will probably get slaughtered) reminds me of Obi-Wan's line to Palpatine in ROTS: "Sith Lords are our specialty". No, you moron, they're not! One Sith has been shown to be capable of soloing two or more Jedi for, what, centuries now?!? Even in the context of ROTS that line is funny because they haven't been able to defeat Dooku for 5 years or so and two minutes later Obi-Wan himself gets knocked out by the Count. Classic Jedi hubris. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,499 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 People are discussing the possibility that the series may feature a young Darth Plagueis... Is it true? Finally, we'll get to see his Master for sure... Darth Tenebrous? Unfortunately for us, these Sith will be portrayed by humans wearing plastic or CGI masks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,429 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 50 minutes ago, Bespin said: Unfortunately for us, these Sith will be portrayed by humans wearing plastic or CGI masks... What else should they do? Plastic surgery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Gabriel Bezerra 308 Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 5 hours ago, Bespin said: People are discussing the possibility that the series may feature a young Darth Plagueis... Is it true? Finally, we'll get to see his Master for sure... Darth Tenebrous? Unfortunately for us, these Sith will be portrayed by humans wearing plastic or CGI masks... Leslie has said in a new interview (THR or for Star Wars .com) that she implemented EU lore in the series, and that it plays a big part in the beginning and end of the show... what exactly is stilm a mystery, could just be an EU alien. I've been reading The High Republic books and comics, and they got me way excited for this series, hope it's good and draws more people to the books. (They are not really necessary for the show, since it takes place a hundred years in the future) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 701 Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 Surely they can't be sith? If this series is set 100 years before Phantom Menace and in TPM they've "been extinct for a millenium." so the Jedi can't discover that there are sith running around the galaxy yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,400 Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 27 minutes ago, Groovygoth666 said: Surely they can't be sith? They can, and don't call me Shirley Tom, Groovygoth666, JTN and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 701 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 49 minutes ago, Faleel said: They can, and don't call me Shirley (stares directly into camera) What a pisser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,574 Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 5 hours ago, Groovygoth666 said: Surely they can't be sith? If this series is set 100 years before Phantom Menace and in TPM they've "been extinct for a millenium." so the Jedi can't discover that there are sith running around the galaxy yet? Since when has disney cared about continuity and not contradicting the movies? Edmilson, Groovygoth666, Nick1Ø66 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Groovygoth666 701 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, Holko said: Since when has disney cared about continuity and not contradicting the movies? Well....there's probably at least one example....can't think of any right now though 😅 JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,424 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 When exactly did they not? I can call many sins on Disney Star Wars but flagrantly contradicting 1-6 isn't one I can think of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,574 Posted March 21 Popular Post Share Posted March 21 Watch Obi-wan nah actually please don't Edmilson, GerateWohl, JTN and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,658 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 What contradicts the movies in Obi-Wan? Btw, The Sith were never extinct - they were always surviving two by two until Palpatine’s age. You can posit that, for instance, they were having similar machinations to what you see in canon media between 1-6 - Sith killing Sith to become “the master,” non-Sith darksiders squabbling for a position like Ventress, non-Sith insiders working for the cause like the inquisitors. You could also have them leave no surviving witness. But a dark side user doesn’t have to be a member of the Sith cult to be a jerk to some Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,429 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 11 minutes ago, mstrox said: What contradicts the movies in Obi-Wan? "When I left you, I was your apprentice. Now I am the master." 1 hour ago, Tallguy said: I can call many sins on Disney Star Wars but flagrantly contradicting 1-6 isn't one I can think of. The biggest sin of Disney Star Wars was ruining the whole tragic of Darth Vader who became evil because as a powerful Jedi he could not save the ones he loved from death and then in episode 9 suddenly Rey could heal deadly wounds and even bring back Kylo Ren from the dead. Or was it the other way round? I don't remember. But this made everything random and senseless and bullshit. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,574 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 9 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: The biggest sin of Disney Star Wars was ruining the whole tragic of Darth Vader who became evil because as a powerful Jedi he could not save the ones he loved from death and then in episode 9 suddenly Rey could heal deadly wounds and even bring back Kylo Ren from the dead. Nah it's destroying everything the OT crew worked for and making Vader's ultimate turn and sacrifice pretty much completely irrelevant if Palpatine just somehow returns. JTN and Nick1Ø66 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,658 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 16 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: "When I left you, I was your apprentice. Now I am the master.". That didn’t strike me as a conflict - the actual line was “I was but a learner,” a little more vague and perfect for a Star Wars “certain point of view” approach. In Obi-Wan, he got a lesson all right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,424 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 18 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: "When I left you, I was your apprentice. Now I am the master." Don't contradict the movies. "When I left you I was but a learner, now I am the master." 9 minutes ago, Holko said: Nah it's destroying everything the OT crew worked for and making Vader's ultimate turn and sacrifice pretty much completely irrelevant if Palpatine just somehow returns. That's not a contradiction, that's just stupid. 20 minutes ago, GerateWohl said: The biggest sin of Disney Star Wars was ruining the whole tragic of Darth Vader who became evil because as a powerful Jedi he could not save the ones he loved from death and then in episode 9 suddenly Rey could heal deadly wounds and even bring back Kylo Ren from the dead. Or was it the other way round? I don't remember. But this made everything random and senseless and bullshit. The tragedy (such as it is) of Anakin Skywalker is that he is misled into thinking that he is powerless unless he makes these society destroying choices. And then he is still powerless. Which IMHO is a contradiction of the OT by turning Darth Vader from a bold and malevolent leader to a weak and easily duped follower. Perhaps the tragedy is that he could have done exactly what Rey did if he never followed the obviously suspect teachings of a corrupt Sith Lord / Chancellor of the Republic. The tragedy is that while The Rise of Skywalker is a fun and momentarily enjoyable film it's still monumentally stupid even on the sliding scale of a Star Wars movie. At no point do I watch this film and say "Well. I just don't care about Darth Vader at all anymore!" As for some sort of Sith thing in The Acolyte: This is hundreds of years in the past. (Right?) The Jedi Order in the PT lost a planet and somehow accidentally ordered a clone army. Maybe they forgot about a Sith encounter here and there over the millennia. 16 minutes ago, mstrox said: That didn’t strike me as a conflict - the actual line was “I was but a learner,” a little more vague and perfect for a Star Wars “certain point of view” approach. In Obi-Wan, he got a lesson all right. What he said. Also: It was better when it was Ahsoka in Rebels. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badzeee 110 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Count me as one who knows Abels only from his Jordan Peele scores, which I really liked. Should be interesting! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,060 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 21 hours ago, Groovygoth666 said: Well....there's probably at least one example....can't think of any right now though 😅 Andor Yavar Moradi and Groovygoth666 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,803 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 Some jedi could discover the sith in this series, but all are killed and cannot report the news. that happened in the legenda novel darth maul shadow hunter…. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,424 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 4 hours ago, DarthDementous said: Andor First: YOU TAKE THAT BACK. Second: Example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,154 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 So I hear there is yet another Disney Star Wars streaming show. What's crazy to me other than Disney still milking this poor dead cow, is the fact that there are still any fans left of this bastardized and humiliated car crash of a franchise that used to be one of the greatest, groundbreaking film trilogies ever made. 22 hours ago, Holko said: Nah it's destroying everything the OT crew worked for and making Vader's ultimate turn and sacrifice pretty much completely irrelevant if Palpatine just somehow returns. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,526 Posted March 22 Popular Post Share Posted March 22 Wow, the Star Wars fatigue has really set in... none of it is exciting anymore. Disney has completely diluted the IP with all this fluff content. A new Star Wars product used to be an event, now it's just flavor of the week that no one anticipates or remembers once it's over. They have have burnt bridges so bad that I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than watch any SW content from Disney. GerateWohl, JTN and Andy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,154 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 5 minutes ago, Edmilson said: They have have burnt bridges so bad that I'd rather shit in my hands and clap than watch any SW content from Disney. I don't think that my exact thoughts have ever been put so eloquently. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,855 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 On 21/3/2024 at 6:11 AM, Tallguy said: I can call many sins on Disney Star Wars but flagrantly contradicting 1-6 isn't one I can think of. Luke Skywalker's a walking contradiction. #NotMyLukeSkywalker JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,424 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 25 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: Luke Skywalker's a walking contradiction. #NotMyLukeSkywalker I will defend TLJ's Luke with my dying breath. Again, not a contradiction. It just didn't go the way you thought it would. Also he dies selflessly defending the Rebeli-Resist-- Some kind of R word. Now, did it contradict the end of The Force Awakens? A smidge. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,154 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 34 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: Luke Skywalker's a walking contradiction. #NotMyLukeSkywalker #JakeSkywalker Mr. Hooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,424 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 This IS the Luke Skywalker who, if the Empire hadn't messed up HIS little corner of the universe, would have left the Princess rotting in her cell, yes? This IS the Luke Skywalker who, when confronted with Darth Vader and the possible truth of his parentage (and losing a hand) decided that it was better to TAKE HIS OWN LIFE and then wound up saved by luck, yes? Jedi, Jedi, Jedi... The two Jedi I knew of from George Lucas' Star Wars when the Empire was on the rise WENT AND HID at the ends of the galaxy for 20 years. Keeping a polite distance from ONE of the two Skywalker twins. Mostly. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,154 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 No, that is Jake Skywalker. THIS is Luke Skywalker: 20 minutes ago, Tallguy said: decided that it was better to TAKE HIS OWN LIFE That was one of the bravest acts I’ve ever seen in a film. Willing to sacrifice your own life rather than being taken as a prisoner before your enemy to be used against your friends and allies is what a true martyr does. He wouldn’t give into Vader and be a pawn of the Emperor when he wasn’t ready yet. But in RotJ a wiser and stronger Luke DOES confront Vader and lets him capture him and take him to the Emperor, because then he was ready, or more ready, and because Yoda told him that he needed to face Vader in order to become a Jedi. So Luke did that. And he saved his father from the Dark Side by not wanting to fight and kill his father, and thus making his father realize how much his son means to him when the Emperor was about to kill him. What a beautiful character arch, both for Luke and Vader/Anakin. And the “sequels” destroyed all of it by “somehow” bringing Palpatine back. Mr. Hooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,855 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 24 minutes ago, Tallguy said: I will defend TLJ's Luke with my dying breath. Again, not a contradiction. It just didn't go the way you thought it would. Luke not giving up on his father—who wasn't a future mass-murderer, but a confirmed mass-murderer—but succumbing to raising a lightsaber to kill his nephew, because of some vague premonition of what might happen, is a contradiction and totally undermines Luke's character. "But he had a moment of weakness"... That might fly if he was a novice that hadn't yet mastered his emotions vis-à-vis the Force, but this was Luke Skywalker—Jedi Master. And yeah, sure, because of his "intense shame," he selfishly decided to exile himself and leave his sister behind to fight the "First Order" alone... Exiling Luke was just a lazy story contrivance to keep him out of the first movie to put the focus on Rey. Somebody try to deny that. Nope. Take your "subverted expectations" and stick 'em where the twin suns don't shine, Rian—Mr. I Like To Anger The Audience Because It's More Interesting To Me. JTN and Badzeee 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,651 Posted March 22 Popular Post Share Posted March 22 Mr. Hooper, enderdrag64, Yavar Moradi and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 1,855 Posted March 22 Popular Post Share Posted March 22 1 minute ago, Not Mr. Big said: JTN, Tallguy, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,424 Posted March 22 Share Posted March 22 15 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: Luke not giving up on his father—who wasn't a future mass-murderer, but a confirmed mass-murderer—but succumbing to raising a lightsaber to kill his nephew, because of some vague premonition of what might happen, is a contradiction and totally undermines Luke's character. "But he had a moment of weakness"... That might fly if he was a novice that hadn't yet mastered his emotions vis-à-vis the Force, but this was Luke Skywalker—Jedi Master. And yeah, sure, because of his "intense shame," he selfishly decided to exile himself and leave his sister behind to fight the "First Order" alone... Exiling Luke was just a lazy story contrivance to keep him out of the first movie to put the focus on Rey. Somebody try to deny that. Nope. Take your "subverted expectations" and stick 'em where the twin suns don't shine, Rian—Mr. I Like To Anger The Audience Because It's More Interesting To Me. A Skywalker running away / doing a galaxy changing act just because of a premonition of some kind? He's removing himself from the situation by "hiding". Again, not something I agree with, but not out of character for a person we saw three times and was WILDLY different each time - Return of the Jedi Luke is a totally different character from even The Empire Strikes Back. It works really well if you accept that Luke really does have delusions of grandeur. I've sung this song before, but JJ had no idea why Luke was hiding. And Rian came up with something that was at least interesting. (And gave Hamill something to perform to!) And also pretty Star Wars-y. (A Jedi master hiding out and being hunted by all sides because something has gone wrong in the Galaxy? Forsooth, you say!) The really bad part of all of it is that if you're going to bring back The Original Cast then actually put them in a SCENE together. Of course, that's something that Return of the Jedi or even The Empire Strikes Back didn't do very well either. JJ and Rian didn't do it at ALL. JJ closed the door when he (and Ford) killed Han. And life (and a lot of drugs) nailed it shut with Fisher's passing. Yavar Moradi and CGCJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,526 Posted March 22 Popular Post Share Posted March 22 Honestly, out of every Disney SW movie/TV show/etc., TLJ is the one I really like. Mostly because I saw it with a pretty nice group of friends on opening weekend and it was a blast. I enjoyed the movie, my best friend didn't care about it (he tends to prefer Dark side characters and c'mon, Kylo Ren only brought shame and embarrassment to every Star Wars villain ever) and our other two friends thought it was okay. Very fun day. We spent the next few weeks trading Star Wars memes on WhatsApp, which was how I got in touch with the utter masterpiece that is Backstroke of the West. Sure, TLJ has its flaws but due to fond personal memories I tend to overlook them. Yavar Moradi, Mr. Hooper and Tallguy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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