ManofDestiny 71 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 13th Warrior Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ollie 1,059 Posted November 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2023 Goldsmith: 13th Warrior Timeline Medicine Man Horner: Brainstorm McNeely: Terminal Velocity Silvestri: Quick and the Dead Yavar Moradi, Amer and crocodile 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once 605 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: The Secret Garden (Zbigniew Preisner) -- so much of this great score is unreleased! Oh no, really? I love this score and I loved the film as well, but had no memory of any missing music. Damn, new grail for the list! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I have a feeling that Horner's Brainstorm is a holy grail for approx. 7 out of 10 film music fans. crocodile and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,139 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I always remember it as the music from the trailer to Darkman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Both LLL and Intrada seem to be rich with James Horner titles lately so I wouldn't be surprised if Varese has one or two up it's sleeve. BRAINSTORM would be ideal but I believe there are too technical hurdles on that one. How about Elfman's PEE WEE'S BIG ADVENTURE Or a new edition of ALIENS with the OST ? JTN and Bryant Burnette 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted November 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Jay said: Starship Troopers produced by Mike and/or Neil would be a dream come true -My wallet after last week Jay, JTN, Brando and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 316 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I never got the previous Starship Troopers expansion so that would be very nice for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTN 2,034 Posted November 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2023 ALIENS and STARSHIP TROOPERS Expanded would be amazing. Andy, greenturnedblue and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,550 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 5 hours ago, Amer said: BRAINSTORM would be ideal but I believe there are too technical hurdles on that one. Why, pray tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 10 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Why, pray tell? Typical licensing issue owing to two different recordings with different ownership. MGM/UA Entertainment Company etc. ( I guess?) Varese wanted to do this many years ago but it was way too complicated and involving time consuming legalities to sort. So, someday it may happen but Im not holding my breadth. Its one of the reason I went ahead and sought out a copy from ebay of the OST this year. P.S. Im culling this info from various posts across messageboards Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Not much left from Varese for me - they've knocked it out of the park in the last few years. I'm not particularly pining for Sphere as we have a perfect sounding boot and it probably won't happen anyway as it's WB and Goldenthal (i.e., a perfect storm of legal shit). If the suits can't be bothered to let paying customers have it properly then I'm not going to bother getting excited about having it 'officially', especially given it would sound exactly the same. I'd love to see 13th Warrior for a nice remaster and some extra music, but being Disney it might be more Intrada's territory. Hence Ice Age and I, Robot are probably the two that would make me most interested. What's still remarkable however, is that had Townson not left Varese, I may never have gotten my #1 grail as he evidently thought (alongside Brainstorm) that it wasn't worthy of his label. There may be mixed views on this, but IMO, his departure, and the new producers' more open mind, made a lot of things better. Who knows how many releases they did over the last 2 or 3 years were ones that Townson didn't want to expand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,206 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Amer said: Im not holding my breadth. Sadly, I am. And what with the holidays coming up and everything… Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Isn’t this year the 40th anniversary of Brainstorm? Maybe a big anniversary like this would have provided some incentive for them to finally do it…? I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 @Richard Penna which Varese expansion since 2018 was your #1 grail again? Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Dante's Peak Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,034 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I'm not particularly pining for Sphere SPHERE is a phenomenal score. Yavar Moradi and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 Yes, it's a great score. I just don't need it officially if WB can't be bothered to cooperate. 1977 and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted November 28, 2023 Share Posted November 28, 2023 I can't believe those idiots are still mad at Goldenthal for complaining about Bates borrowing his material for 300. Seems like such a petty thing, especially now a decade and a half over, when Snyder parted ways with Bates and then WB parted with Snyder. That is, if the actual reason for Goldenthal WB scores not being expanded is indeed that. Because I honestly find that hard to believe. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 7 hours ago, Edmilson said: I can't believe those idiots are still mad at Goldenthal for complaining about Bates borrowing his material for 300. Seems like such a petty thing, especially now a decade and a half over, when Snyder parted ways with Bates and then WB parted with Snyder. That is, if the actual reason for Goldenthal WB scores not being expanded is indeed that. Because I honestly find that hard to believe. They probably have forgotten over it by now too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Haven't those individuals left WB by now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,034 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 12 hours ago, Edmilson said: Because I honestly find that hard to believe. So do I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I'm inclined to optimistically agree. Probably more likely that WB's closed doors to licensing is more in play now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 It would be nice if the tumult in WB and changing hands has gotten rid of everyone who bore a grudge with Goldenthal. There’s also something weird with Warner Bros (at least in the 2010s) per MV (god, don’t make me remember but he talked about it at the time of the first Batman and Batman Returns expansions) at LLL that they couldn’t release premiere releases and the expansions needed to have all preexisting music on there. I seem to recall him saying that it might have been easier to release Batman and Robin if they had put a track from it on the OST instead of a track from Forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romão 2,274 Posted November 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2023 We really need more Goldenthal expansions. I would absolutely love to see expanded releases for Interview with the Vampire, Sphere, Final Fantasy. And the planned OST for Batman & Robin is such a great assembly and distillation of the score, I'd be more than satisfied if that is all they released from that score Yavar Moradi, Corellian2019 and JTN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Agreed on all the above and I'd also love an expansion for Michael Collins if there is anything to be added! Maybe Varese can somehow break through the WB blockade with their perpetuity rights. Yavar JTN and Romão 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Clues are up We're doing things a little differently this time around. A single clue that applies to both of the CD Club titles we're announcing on Friday! Let's see if you folks can crack these ones. https://www.facebook.com/varesesarabanderecords/posts/pfbid0TxPQo21KfFFVtc3jXKqYsktg29J4hwuB2RqQhG9BxMqu4pNT3cdTCpKpe9Tfueqfl Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Ok, so a Newman score, evidently. Hopeful guess: David Newman's Ice Age. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Alfred, Randy, David, or Thomas? JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Which Newman? Thomas? Randy? Lionel? Alfred? David? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 3 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Ok, so a Newman score, evidently. Maybe TWO! 2 minutes ago, Jay said: Alfred, Thomas, or David? Or...Randy? I absolutely adore Pleasantville and would love a Deluxe Edition of that even though it had an isolated score track (so did Rudy and Hollow Man, and I still gratefully grabbed those expansions). 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: Which Newman? Thomas? Randy? Lionel? Alfred? David? I'd be beyond shocked if it was Lionel. Varese has never released a Lionel Newman score to my knowledge. Yavar JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Not going to be Disney, so that's all of Thomas/Randy's Pixar scores out. Thomas doesn't have much (prominent, expandable) older stuff that Varese did - The Player perhaps. David has a couple, but nothing I'd call high profile - Serenity and Bowfinger. I reckon Ice Age is more likely/known than those. Just leaves something really old by Alfred, and that's not my area of knowledge at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Alfred Newman scores released by Varese: The Snake Pit (1948) The President's Lady (1953) Randy Newman scores released by Varese: Pleasantville (1998) Meet The Fockers (2004) Leatherheads (2008) David Newman scores released by Varese: Kindred, The (1987) My Demon Lover (1987) Heathers (1989) War Of The Roses, The (1989) Mr. Destiny (1990) Hoffa (1992) - expanded by LLL Sandlot, The (1993) - expanded by LLL I Love Trouble (1994) Matilda (1996) Bowfinger (1999) Affair Of The Necklace, The (2001) Ice Age (2002) Serenity (2005) Thomas Newman scores released by Varese: Welcome Home, Roxy Carmichael (1990) Linguini Incident, The (1991) Player, The (1992) American Buffalo (1996) Mad City (1998) Pay It Forward (2000) In The Bedroom (2001) Salton Sea, The (2002) White Oleander (2002) Good German, The (2006) Help, The (2011) Side Effects (2013) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Didn't Thomas Newman used to be firmly against expansions for most of his work, even though a few of them have been expanded? If he changed his mind, I'd love expansions for Lemony Snicket and The Green Mile (which are probably not Varese territory, but still). TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Lemony Snicket is a Paramount film with Sony Music music rights, so any label could expand it The Green Mile is a Warner film with Warner Music music rights, so any label could expand it (but Warner Pictures isn't working with labels right now) Yavar Moradi and Edmilson 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Could be Phenomenon. I have one track from that. None of the others shout 'expand me!' for me. Pleasantville I reckon is the only Randy from that list that anyone would bother deluxifying. 5 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Didn't Thomas Newman used to be firmly against expansions for most of his work, even though a few of them have been expanded? Yeah, there haven't been many. Only Shawshank and Flesh and Bone come to mind. There's nothing else of his that I want. My favourite Newman score The Horse Whisperer is a magnificent listening experience, and I've seen the film (loved it) and I didn't remember anything missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I would love it to be The Good German. But it probably won't be. Karol JTN and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Check SoundtrackCollector again, Jay. Varese didn’t release Phenomenon (there was just a composer promo of it and they re-recorded a single cue for their Hollywood ‘96 album… I doubt that would get them any perpetuity rights to the score). 5 minutes ago, crocodile said: I would love it to be The Good German. But it probably won't be. YESSSS!!! This would easily be my Thomas Newman want, though I want David’s Mr. Destiny and Randy’s Pleasantville expanded more. 26 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Thomas doesn't have much older stuff that Varese did Looks like quite a bit on SoundtrackCollector… though I confess that some of these titles I have *never* heard of before! (Josh and S.A.M.???) Yavar JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,034 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Check SoundtrackCollector again, Jay. Varese didn’t release Phenomenon (there was just a composer promo of it and they re-recorded a single cue for their Hollywood ‘96 album… I doubt that would get them any perpetuity rights to the score). YESSSS!!! This would easily be my Thomas Newman want, though I want David’s Mr. Destiny and Randy’s Pleasantville expanded more. Yavar Absolutely. I would also want Randy’s The Natural, Awakenings and Seabiscuit and David’s Other People’s Money expanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Those would be good to get but unlikely from Varese because they didn’t release the original albums right? Yavar JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,034 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 David Newman: Anastasia Thomas Newman: The Iron Lady Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 11 minutes ago, Yavar Moradi said: Looks like quite a bit on SoundtrackCollector… I'll rephrase... not much older, expansion-hungry stuff. Essentially this comes down to a discussion of which Varese OSTs need or would find an audience with expanding. I'd argue certainly not all of them. If it's not two Newman scores, I have no idea whatsoever what the other one is. For the record (just looked it up), that address is in a seemingly rather unexciting corner of London. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 My biggest Randy Newman holy grails won't come from Varese or other labels but from the Legacy Collection on WDR: all of his Pixar scores, especially A Bug's Life. That's a score that deseperatly needs an expansion! Toy Story 2 and Cars could be nice ones as well. Yavar Moradi and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I'd love A Bug's Life too, but probably relying on some activity with the legacy collection for that. You've got the promo though? Doesn't have the volume issue that the iso score has. enderdrag64 and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 316 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 My LLL joke about a Newman fiesta comes true indirectly! Brando and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 What about Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,550 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 Paul's dead. He died in 1966. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,358 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 21 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Paul's dead. He died in 1966. 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,206 Posted November 29, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted November 29, 2023 Randy Newman just turned 80 yesterday, so one of his scores would be good timing. Yavar Moradi, enderdrag64 and JTN 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stark 316 Posted November 29, 2023 Share Posted November 29, 2023 I’m hoping for David Newman releases, he has a lot of unreleased goodies, while Thomas tends to write short scores. I wonder who had the rights to Randy’s bizarre rejected Air Force One? Yavar Moradi and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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