Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 I agree...with Croc. Ben Burtt is a great sound designer, but he's not a good editor. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Hehe you're making fun of me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 These...are serious charges. I'd like to have seen what someone like Michael Kahn would have done with the prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Richard said: I hear what you're saying, @Richard Penna, but JURASSIC PARK/SCHINDLER'S LIST was a two-picture deal. He had to shoot SL in March, to get an authentic "winter" feeling. I see no problem with going from a summer blockbuster, to December Oscar bait, and Lucas doing post on JP certainty didn't do Universal any harm, in 1993: 15 Oscar nods, 10 awards, from just two movies, and the biggest film in history. It was a win/win. I don't have any issue at all with him making both films, but it seems that in both dual productions, the oscar bait got more of his attention. Can't he just finish a film before moving on, like other directors do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted March 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2018 That's usually the way that he works, but sometimes he will have more than one film released, in any given year. That doesn't necessarily mean that he favours one, over another. Like I said, the start-date of SCHINDLER'S LIST was fixed in stone, so he left JURASSIC PARK in the capable hands of his good friend, while he supervised post, via satellite, in Prague. I defy anyone to show me which parts of JURASSIC PARK were overseen by Spielberg, and which parts were overseen by Lucas. As for "Oscar bait"; put side-by-side, it's pretty easy to see which film will sell more popcorn, and which will earn more Oscar nominations. It was almost expected that Universal would "push" SCHINDLER'S LIST, come January, 1994. Jurassic Shark, Once and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Will 2,215 Posted March 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2018 Saw this today. Loved it! Very faithful to the spirit of the book (although it's been a while since I read it so I'd imagine many details were changed). This film built suspense well, I thought -- even having read the book I was still on the edge of my seat at times. The action was generally well-paced and realized, although the castle battle did seem interminable, perhaps the film's weak point. I think in many ways Spielberg was the perfect man to direct this -- it had a Charlie and the Chocolate Factory feel. Sure, it was dystopic to some extent (and indeed the message about staying in touch with reality is important in our time) but Spielberg made sure to bring out the sentimentality, nostalgia, and plain old optimism in the story, as he tends to do in his films. Particularly in many of the scenes with James Halliday (played with typical sensitivity and grace by Mark Rylance) and his "leap not taken," his breakup with Morrow, etc., the film, combined with Silvestri's beautiful score, tugged just a bit at the heartstrings. It was a pleasant surprise to see Simon Pegg playing Morrow (I'd forgotten Pegg was in this). Another pleasant surprise was Aech, a character that I'd remembered from the novel but seemed much more funny and distinctive here. In general, there was a lot of great "video game banter," some of it genuinely funny. I can practically hear half of those lines coming from people at my high school! I guess in conclusion I'd say this is a very good Spielberg film in that it's got something fairly important to say but, unlike Minority Report or A.I (which, let me be clear, I both love) doesn't become oppressive in darkness. Ultimately, Wade does get his golden ticket, taking in the cheers amidst swirling snow and a soaring orchestral score, kissing the girl as the bad guys are carted off in handcuffs. If that isn't classic 80s Spielberg, I don't know what is. Is it hopelessly optimistic? Sure, but then, so is the book, and it's not like the world needs to become any more jaded right now. Bayesian, Pieter Boelen, John and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted March 31, 2018 The film was really good. In the hands of any other director, it would have turned to tacky shit but Spielberg really elevates the material. Will, Bayesian and Demondm810 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 I totally agree with Will about his take on RPO. The way the Halladay character is portrayed by Rylance (and the script) is especially well done. Going into the movie, I kind of expected Halladay to be disagreeable in a kind of Silicon Valley tech-bro way. I couldn't have been more wrong. Also, after seeing it, I'm convinced Spielberg does action almost as good as James Cameron. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 31, 2018 Share Posted March 31, 2018 There are many great musical moments. Did I imagine I heard a snippet of 1941. I loved the Max Steiner bit Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 The movie was alright. Not Mr. Big and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 18 minutes ago, Margo Channing said: The movie was alright. J.J. Abrams-like, innit? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, crocodile said: J.J. Abrams-like, innit? Karol Sort of. Kinda reminded me of Super 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Just now, Margo Channing said: Sort of. Kinda reminded me of Super 8. Yes! And it probably is a slightly better film. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 Thanks Spielberg, but we already have a RPO. From the actual 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 My review. Definitely a great time at the cinemas. https://dailyuv.com/feed/949657?location=norwich-vt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 1, 2018 Share Posted April 1, 2018 The fact that there's a SS film that opens with a Van Halen song and has a scene that basically "references" AKA rips off iconic scenes from The Shining without contributing much of anything of an original spin to said scenes aside from floating CG things is...odd, to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 Saw it last night, overall I think it was a fun film. A few slight problems here and there with severely underdeveloped characters/motivations and a few too many 80's references for a story set in 2045, but I think it was one of Spielberg's more engaging films of the last few years. Silvestri's score was there, but I was kind of hoping for a diversity of themes, and half of it is drowned out by the sound fx. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 The problem of new Spielberg films is not that they are worse than the old ones, but downright forgettable. Does this also apply for Ready Player One? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 I can never forget KOTCS...however hard I try Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Brundlefly said: The problem of new Spielberg films is not that they are worse than the old ones, but downright forgettable. Does this also apply for Ready Player One? You say that like none of the old Spielberg movies are forgettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted April 2, 2018 Share Posted April 2, 2018 44 minutes ago, Muad'Dib said: You say that like none of the old Spielberg movies are forgettable. I do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I haven't seen the film myself, but from the sound of it, it reminds me of someone dangling a cat toy in front of a cat, but instead it's Steven Spielberg dangling nostalgia in front of middle-aged nerds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 On 4/2/2018 at 6:36 AM, Brundlefly said: The problem of new Spielberg films is not that they are worse than the old ones, but downright forgettable. Does this also apply for Ready Player One? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 I saw it earlier today. Hadn't read the book, so I'm just going by the movie's own merits. It was entertaining, had its heart in the right place, but undone by excessive VFX and a bit too long for its own good. I realize that the story necessitates a lot of VFX, but Spielberg could've used a few more in-camera tricks to make it more convincing. It got really distracting, and in the 3D format that I saw, it hurt my eyes at times. Alan Silvestri's score was also entertaining, but it wasn't as memorable as it should've been. It's eye candy but it needed to be leaner and more tangible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 5 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I haven't seen the film myself, but from the sound of it, it reminds me of someone dangling a cat toy in front of a cat, but instead it's Steven Spielberg dangling nostalgia in front of middle-aged nerds. It is exactly that. But, surprisingly, the film isn't as bad as that description. Just forget everything you know about the artistry of cinema and you'll be fine. Karol Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Think of RPO as the spiritual cousin of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I don't recall anyone in the 80's wondering what the point was of putting Donald Duck and Daffy together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 Bad comparison. Roger Rabbit was mainly live action with supporting animated characters and environments. It also had a much better story. RPO is like taking Eddie's brief excursion through the insanity of Toontown and making that the majority of the movie! The CG in this film is just overwhelming and headache-inducing. It also lacks Spielberg's touch, as though he wasn't even involved with those sequences. It's like he handed it over to the computer guys and they made a 2 hour video game cut scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 The most interesting scenes in the film are those with Halliday (Rylance) and I was hoping there could've been more dynamic interactions between him and Wade sprinkled throughout the film. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 It's obvious that's the movie SS wanted to make, but 2 hours of the running time became a CGI mess. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I was left wanting more human interaction, scenes shot on a set and with more substance and heart - just to break up the constant assault of CG. I haven't read the book but apparently Wade doesn't meet Sam in the real world until the very end, God, how interesting and emotional that would've been but instead we meet her almost 1/4 through the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natedog 7 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 I’ve read the book. I thought in the film The oasis stuff was really great, I just wish the real world tone was a bit darker and more threatening, like minority report or AI. Instead we kind of good a version of hook where the bad guys aren’t really that bad, and the stakes aren’t all that high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 On 28/3/2018 at 8:55 PM, Richard Penna said: I don't have any issue at all with him making both films, but it seems that in both dual productions, the oscar bait got more of his attention. Schindler's List isn't "oscar bait" (whatever that means), but instead a very personal project that Spielberg nurtured for many years. Whatever you may think about the film's inner qualities, it's not something he did just to win trophies and awards. Quite the contrary, he almost put his own career at risk with such a project (hence why he had to deliver a huge blockbuster to Universal Pictures before getting the greenlight for Schindler's List) On 4/4/2018 at 12:34 PM, Stefancos said: Think of RPO as the spiritual cousin of Who Framed Roger Rabbit. I think it's a very fitting comparison. Spielberg tried to do his own version of Zemeckis' classic in many ways. And like that film, I think the most interesting angle to see and "read" RPO is the meta-textual one. It's very much a film about movies almost to the point that, like Jurassic Park, it's also a film that talks about itself. It's almost obvious to see Hallyday as a representation of Spielberg himself, while Wade/Parzival is a character that represents the young generation that Spielberg hopes will come to save the escapist entertainment movie industry. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Saw the film last night. It was a lot of fun. It won't rank very high on the list of Spielberg films but it's far from terrible. Overdoes the 80s nostalgia but then again so does the book. There's a distinct lack of peril in the book and I think SS made an effort to address that in the film. Even Simon Pegg's stupid face didn't ruin it for me. I enjoyed it. I'd rather watch this than another superhero film anyway, that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Check out @WoodyAllenPages’s Tweet: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Sad to see Allen try and appropriate a part of this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I doubt Allen knows what Twitter is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Saw the film this weekend. It was ok. Didn’t really feel like a Spielberg film. The Shining bit had me laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 No Spielberg films really feel like Spielberg films anymore. RPO felt more JJ Abrams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Abrams, really? Wow! It felt absolutely nothing like an Abrams picture to me. Edgar Wright or Matt Vaughn, sure. But nothing whatsoever like the work of JJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Staggering, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 It was quite watchable so yeah, nothing like JJ at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 I see that RPO was blown out of the water by a relatively small film this weekend. I wonder if Spielberg will ever come close to recapturing the glory of a true blockbuster that has real legs and cultural impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 He's 70, so no. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,658 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 As in he does not have enough time left to do so, or a 70 year old just cannot tap into pop culture in a way that really resonates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Do blockbuster “have legs” anymore anyway? They usually reach the billion within 3 weeks and disappear again. Titanic, Fellowship of the Ring, and Avatar seemed to stay in theatres forever but those are few and far between. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 Jurassic World stuck around long enough for me to be able to see it four times! ..not that...I...saw it...four times...of course not...that'd be silly...ehehe...eheh..heh...ahem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 RPO's legs are destined to lie in streaming, years worth of home release rewatches by the geeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 So, all in all the film doesn't work, like Children of Men and Mad Max: Fury Road, as linear spectacle entertainment with a multilayered environment which is there but not focussed on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted April 9, 2018 Share Posted April 9, 2018 17 minutes ago, Tom said: As in he does not have enough time left to do so, or a 70 year old just cannot tap into pop culture in a way that really resonates? Directors usually decline when they get older - exceptions prove the rule - but Spielberg is a prime case. He was tops when he was young and hungry. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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