Will 2,291 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 As expected, it will be released the same day as the movie, and will be just one disc: https://www.amazon.com/Star-Wars-Last-John-Williams/dp/B0758KSWZK/ Currently, there's a placeholder cover, although given what the cover looked like for TFA I wouldn't be surprised if they just add "Music by John Williams" and give us that. Not Mr. Big and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 41,625 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,357 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 To be super pedantic, that's just a cropped version of the teaser poster. The starfield in the TFA poster differed from the starfield in TFA's OST artwork, so the final cover (with album credits) will not match this placeholder. Speaking of album credits, the standard Composed and Conducted by John Williams will almost certainly be reinstated for TLJ. I checked every JW OST cover in the past two decades and only Lincoln and TFA had Music by John Williams (and COS had the William Ross credit, for obvious reasons). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,291 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, crumbs said: That's just a cropped version of the teaser poster. The starfield in the TFA poster differed from the starfield in TFA's OST art. The official cover, credits included, will not match this placeholder (pedantic, I know!) The standard Composed and Conducted by John Williams credit will certainly be reinstated for TLJ, considering he conducted the entire score. I checked every OST cover in the past two decades and only Lincoln and TFA had Music by John Williams. Good point. Although Disney may want consistency and insist on "Music by." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,357 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, Will said: Good point. Although Disney may want consistency and insist on "Music by." Williams' contract & agency will want consistency with the duties he actually served on the film. It will revert to Composed and Conducted. We're still unclear on how much of TFA he conducted, but he obviously didn't conduct enough of the OST inclusions to feel comfortable claiming a credit. Contrast that with Jurassic Park, where Artie Kane conducted parts of the score yet the OST artwork specifies JW as conductor. Besides, we lost consistency in the prequels. Who was the moron at Sony who decided to change the album spine for ROTS, after TPM & AOTC were consistent? Bilbo and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 9,811 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 6 minutes ago, crumbs said: Williams' contract & agency will want consistency with the duties he actually served on the film. It will revert to Composed and Conducted. There will be a legal battle between Williams's lawyers insisting on "Composed and Conducted" and Disney. The credit on the cover will be dropped altogether as a result, and Williams will be fired from Ep. 9. chinaismine, Smeltington, Will and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,618 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 14 minutes ago, crumbs said: I checked every JW OST cover in the past two decades and only Lincoln and TFA had Music by John Williams Wow, I never noticed that about the Lincoln soundtrack. Who conducted this score, then? Did JW conduct a few tracks? Is this information available!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,357 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, Josh500 said: Wow, I never noticed that about the Lincoln soundtrack. Who conducted this score, then? Did JW conduct a few tracks? Is this information available!? I'm assuming the inclusion of a source track neither composed nor conducted by JW was the reason for that one. Doesn't explain CMIYC though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,618 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 7 minutes ago, crumbs said: I'm assuming the inclusion of a source track neither composed nor conducted by JW was the reason for that one. Doesn't explain CMIYC though. Huh? Aren't there tons of JW albums that contain pieces not composed and conducted by Williams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 41,625 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Williams conducted 100% of Lincoln Josh Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 15,357 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 Cerebral Cortex, Josh500, Will and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,508 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Well Ross has done some conducting hasn't he? In the later sessions? I thought I saw that somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Josh500 1,618 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 In the movies we're used to "Music by John Williams." On the original soundtrack albums, nothing can be more exciting than the magical seven words, "Music Composed and Conducted by John Williams." But anyway, that's a relatively small matter. The important thing is, the music was written by JW! Manakin Skywalker, Will and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,291 Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share Posted September 1, 2017 42 minutes ago, crumbs said: I'm assuming the inclusion of a source track neither composed nor conducted by JW was the reason for that one. Doesn't explain CMIYC though. You know, I just checked, and it turns out that, as @Jay alluded to above, the back of the album (and booklet) says "composed and conducted"! Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,357 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Well Ross has done some conducting hasn't he? In the later sessions? I thought I saw that somewhere. Doesn't mean he was necessarily conducting anything. Even if he did, Williams would still take the conducting credit for the OST. He could easily omit any cues Ross may have conducted. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Josh500 1,618 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 10 minutes ago, crumbs said: That's a rather boring cover artwork, though, I gotta say. The prequel trilogy was much better, in this regard. And I bet SW IX will feature the Star Wars logo in green (or blue).... Not Mr. Big, greenturnedblue, John and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,357 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 minute ago, Josh500 said: And I bet SW IX will feature the Star Wars logo in green.... They've painted themselves into a corner there. Personally I'd guess blue, maybe white? And yes, they are thoroughly boring covers but that just means we can look forward to more creative covers for the inevitable expansions! Josh500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,618 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Just now, crumbs said: They've painted themselves into a corner there. Personally I'd guess blue, maybe white? No, not white. Blue or green, is my guess. We should make a poll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 15,357 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 Boy, this is going to be a lonnnnnnng 3 1/2 months. John, Will and Cerebral Cortex 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,958 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 Anyword in how many levels of emboss? aj_vader, Will and Manakin Skywalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 15,357 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 A level of emboss for every track included. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,787 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 20 minutes ago, Josh500 said: That's a rather boring cover artwork, though, I gotta say. The prequel trilogy was much better, in this regard. And I bet SW IX will feature the Star Wars logo in green (or blue).... I bet it'll be black John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin Copilot 9,373 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Someone was talking about co-conducted scores, only three scores where "co-conducted" with others I think: - Jurassic Park (co-conducted by John Williams and Artie Kane [uncredited], 1993) - Midway (co-conducted by John Williams and Robert O. Ragland, 1976) - The Force Awakens (co-conducted by John Williams, William Ross and Gustavo Dudamel, 2015) And of course, there are those other few ones, which where conducted completely by others: http://www.goplanete.com/johnwilliams/music/composer/others.htm Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 2,208 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 28 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: I bet it'll be black Black on a white background would be interesting. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeH 799 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 Music by John Williams (The Force Awakens, E.T., Jaws, and A Toast!) Mr. Lovejoy, Not Mr. Big and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,542 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 toothless and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,787 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Muldoon said: Black on a white background would be interesting. It would be the standard starry background but with black text. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,830 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 For TFA, I listened to the OST before seeing the movie. Probably the same. Listen to the album on a loop and then see the film. It'll be an interesting and fun few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lovejoy 7,760 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 The forums at the time were a million times more entertaining than the film turned out to be. Nothing could top the desperation of JWFan debating over whether music in the commercials was from the score and questioning the validity of the officially released Amazon track list. artguy360 and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 7,154 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Boy, this is going to be a lonnnnnnng 3 1/2 months. The wait for TFA seemed to drag on and on even more in the later months since we were constantly wondering if/when we were gonna hear any of it before release. Every random commercial was fraught with possibilities, wondering if samples would ever get posted etc. At least this year we have a better idea what to expect i.e. next to nothing. I'm not holding my breath for anything until the requisite final trailer in October. Maybe they'll use something there or later in a TV spot again when those start spilling out. Otherwise we'll get a film clip and hopefully a sessions featurette like TFA and Rogue One, and that'll be it until I suppose it leaks a day or two before. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,400 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Boy, this is going to be a lonnnnnnng 3 1/2 months. I'm on a trip in Canada until the end of February. Anything which will be released within the next 6 months, I can only listen to when I'm back at home. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 7,154 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 You can't listen to music in Canada? Mr. Lovejoy and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,400 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 21 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: You can't listen to music in Canada? Yes, I can. But I cannot order CDs, since my location is constantly changing and I would just have a rucksack to carry the CDs - I can imagine what they would look like after 6 months stuffed in a rucksack. The only music I can listen to is the music which I have on my mp3-player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 7,154 Posted September 1, 2017 Share Posted September 1, 2017 Disney's YouTube channel will surely have the OST, though. There is hope for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post King Mark 3,804 Posted September 1, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted September 1, 2017 Another 1 disk incomplete release ,Same fucking shit when stupid scores like The Mummy and Transformers get deluxe 2 c.d. releases right away. another year of hoping we get crumbs from the oscar promo and videogames toothless, Holko, CGCJ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,291 Posted September 2, 2017 Author Share Posted September 2, 2017 48 minutes ago, king mark said: Another 1 disk incomplete release ,Same fucking shit when stupid scores like The Mummy and Transformers get deluxe 2 c.d. releases right away. another year of hoping we get crumbs from the oscar promo and videogames Remember that the good news with these December releases is that the FYC will be released only a few days after the OST! Same with The Papers, so I'd be surprised if we have any unreleased music from the latter, given that it will probably be a shorter score. kelliwisethebrave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,400 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 5 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Disney's YouTube channel will surely have the OST, though. There is hope for you! A friend of mine is gonna order all the new stuff that will be released until February. So when I come home it's like I'm in heaven and spend the first week listening to new expansions Luckily you cannot spoil music like movies. - "The horn section at 2:46 is gonna blow you away!" - "Man, I didn't want to know that! I haven't listened to it yet! 1 hour ago, king mark said: Another 1 disk incomplete release ,Same fucking shit when stupid scores like The Mummy and Transformers get deluxe 2 c.d. releases right away. I would really like to know, who is interested in these complete scores. greenturnedblue and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,255 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 6 hours ago, king mark said: Another 1 disk incomplete release ,Same fucking shit when stupid scores like The Mummy and Transformers get deluxe 2 c.d. releases right away. another year of hoping we get crumbs from the oscar promo and videogames You realize the reason is John Williams, right? Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,483 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Doesn't King Mark like OSTs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,992 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I'm fine with how JW arranges his OSTs. It's his presentation of his music the way he wants people to listen to it. Lady Dimitrescu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,483 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 minute ago, artguy360 said: I'm fine with how JW arranges his OSTs. It's his presentation of his music the way he wants people to listen to it. RotJ and ToD being the best ones. Why do people have such a problem with those ones? They're no shorter than the Jaws, CE3K or 1941 OSTs. Mr. Lovejoy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,590 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Anyone notice how boring all of the posters for Star Wars seem to be now? I miss the days of Drew Struzan. aj_vader 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,483 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 His ones were boring too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,958 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Anyone notice how boring all of the posters for Star Wars seem to be now? I miss the days of Drew Struzan. His TFA one wasn't great either though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,178 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 36 minutes ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: His TFA one wasn't great either though. That was more of a commemorative/promotional piece and not a full-blown traditional Struzan poster though. I'm sure if he was brought in to do the official theatrical posters, it would've been more in line with the prequel designs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,590 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 1 hour ago, Bilbo Skywalker said: His TFA one wasn't great either though. That was basically just a quick promo sketch done specifically for the attendees of the event that they were given out at. A full-blown poster by him I'm sure would have been amazing as always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,958 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Maybe but movie posters have been shit for so long that I've stopped caring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,590 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 I've stopped caring as well, but I'd like to care again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,178 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Eh, some of them are good, I always look out for the commissioned posters from a range of artists, particularly those affiliated with Mondo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Dimitrescu 9,483 Posted September 2, 2017 Share Posted September 2, 2017 Mr. Lovejoy and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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