The Last Jedi THE LAST JEDI - Score mentions in online reviews & social media, etc

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No reactions on Twitter about the score yet. Don't really want to read too many reactions lest someone reveals some huge spoiler.

 

Also, is it weird we've heard next to nothing from JW about the score? TFA had, what, two separate featurettes with JW, two 60 Minutes features, a 30 minute Tavis Smiley interview, countless newspaper articles. I think the only time JW's even mentioned TLJ was that radio interview for the Spielberg/Williams collaboration, plus the infamous "I don't want anyone else scoring for Daisy!" anecdotes at his concerts.

[Manakin Skywalker 5,296]

The 60 Minutes episodes were done because this was the first Star Wars film by different people, and it had been a decade since the previous film. Now that we've had a few films already nobody on those shows care.

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Still, no newspaper articles? TV interviews? It's the 40th anniversary since the first film.

[Jurassic Shark 13,158]

20 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Still, no newspaper articles? TV interviews? It's the 40th anniversary since the first film.

 

Don't complain, at least we got the 40th anniversary 3LP set.

 

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Don't forget the hologram!

[toothless 985]

 

[Obi 409]

I'm so bored about guys who wants better score than TFA. Guys who only want a new Duel of the Fates are no scores or JW real fans.

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Musical surprises, hey? I wonder what that means! Seems oddly specific to be surprised by something in a score.

[SafeUnderHill 205]

[Obi 409]

33 minutes ago, crumbs said:

Musical surprises

 

An electric guitar!

 

The E.T. theme!

 

Jurassic Park theme!

 

A hommage to Johnny Halliday!

 

 

 

 

[Chen G. 4,620]

1 hour ago, Obi said:

I'm so bored about guys who wants better score than TFA. Guys who only want a new Duel of the Fates are no scores or JW real fans.

 

Or maybe they are guys who are fans of film music as music in a film?

 

Each of these scores need a pair of "big" memorable themes with strong, well-mixed statements. Once you have that, you can be as lyrical and as leitmotivically dense as you want, but you have to give the casual moviegoer something to rest his or her hat onto.

[Demodex 573]

1 hour ago, Obi said:

I'm so bored about guys who wants better score than TFA. Guys who only want a new Duel of the Fates are no scores or JW real fans.

 

The TFA score is the weakest of the series. I will be disappointed if this one is not a lot better. 

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It's not an unjustified opinion to consider the TFA score disappointing as it appears in the film. Not only were some of the score highlights deleted from the film, but the score itself was treated poorly in the mix (rendering a lot of the score's finer details inaudible). Not to mention all the microedits which do the score no favours.

[BloodBoal 7,541]

Still, finding TFA to be the weakest score in a series that has AOTC in it...

[Jurassic Shark 13,158]

Rogue One is the weakest.

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Poor Gia.

[Remco 688]

11 minutes ago, Chen G. said:

 

Or maybe they are guys who are fans of film music as music in a film?

 

Each of these scores need a pair of "big" memorable themes with strong, well-mixed statements. Once you have that, you can be as lyrical and as leitmotivically dense as you want, but you have to give the casual moviegoer something to rest his or her hat onto.

 

When people refer to the prequels like that, I feel like they often mean a heavy choral presence like ‘Duel of the Fates’ or a large portion of RotS. And that’s ultimately not a main characteristic of the series’ music, historically speaking. 

[Lewya 360]

Are there any more comments on the score? I have only seen two comments on is so far, the comment above and the other one who said it sounded like good Williams but didn't say more than that.

[Bilbo 3,828]

2 hours ago, Obi said:

I'm so bored about guys who wants better score than TFA. Guys who only want a new Duel of the Fates are no scores or JW real fans.

 

I want a better score than the sub par TFA but I don’t need a new Duel of the Fates.

[Demodex 573]

I'm not referring to TFA as it is in the film. The music as a whole is weak and forgettable.  I enjoy the AOTC soundtrack a lot more. 

[Obi 409]

5 minutes ago, Bilbo said:

 

I want a better score than the sub par TFA but I don’t need a new Duel of the Fates.

 

I caricatured a little, because it's often that I read (but not here).

 

I personnally adore the TFA score. 

[Remco 688]

Oh well, I know the score by heart and it's been my most listened to album in the last two years probably - but each to his own.

 

Opinions aside, I hope that Rian Johnson's movie leaves more room for the music to play a prominent role.

[ocelot 554]

Just now, Obi said:

 

I caricatured a little, because it's often that I read (but not here).

 

I personnally adore the TFA score. 

Me too.

[Chen G. 4,620]

22 minutes ago, BloodBoal said:

Still, finding TFA to be the weakest score in a series that has AOTC in it...

 

Yes, Attack of the Clones is another contender for worst Williams Star Wars score. But at least it has this incredible love theme that any member of the audience will not necessarily hum but certainly be made aware of and learn to recognise. There's nothing like that in The Force Awakens, except for statements of existing themes.

 

15 minutes ago, Remco said:

When people refer to the prequels like that, I feel like they often mean a heavy choral presence like ‘Duel of the Fates’ or a large portion of RotS. And that’s ultimately not a main characteristic of the series’ music, historically speaking. 

 

Sure, choir can feel out of place in a Star Wars score. I don't need a SATB choir chanting (even though I do love a good choir), but I do need a grand theme that's easily identifyable in the film.

[BloodBoal 7,541]

Just now, Chen G. said:

Yes, Attack of the Clones is another contender for worst Williams Star Wars score. But at least it has this incredible love theme thay any member of the audience will not necessarily hum but certainly be made aware of and learn to recognise. There's nothing like that in The Force Awakens, except for statements of existing themes.

 

Rey's theme is just that.

[ocelot 554]

1 minute ago, Chen G. said:

 

Yes, Attack of the Clones is another contender for worst Williams Star Wars score. But at least it has this incredible love theme that any member of the audience will not necessarily hum but certainly be made aware of and learn to recognise. There's nothing like that in The Force Awakens, except for statements of existing themes.

 

 

Sure, choir can feel out of place in a Star Wars score. I don't need a SATB choir chanting (even though I do love a good choir), but I do need a grand theme that's easily identifyable in the film.

 

1 minute ago, BloodBoal said:

 

Rey's theme is just that.

I was about to say the same thing. But its cool for people to prefer different scores. Whatever. I just don't like how the woodwinds were mixed out of the score and some of the sloppy string playing in a few sections. Nothing major with the playing just not super tight. Plus the trumpets were a tad too loud in general masking every intricacy behind them. Otherwise a great score in my opinion.

[Chen G. 4,620]

I bet most audience members wouldn't recognise Rey's theme. For the majority of the score, its much too gentle a piece of music to really leave an impression in a movie with loud noises. Star Wars main themes need to be bold and brassy (or scored for tuti strings, or a SATB choir).

 

You'd also want two such themes to play one off of the other, otherwise the main theme would become an idee fixe. I gave The Force Awakens a rewatch and re-listen and Rey's theme is much too prevalent. Any other composer would be given grief for using a theme over 10 or 12 times, even in a longer composition, but Williams gets away with what seems like twenty statements or more.

[Remco 688]

Chen G., what makes you think Rey's Theme is not popular/not remembered by audiences? When it was played last week at the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam alongside with the rest of the TFA suite, the applause and reaction was overwhelmingly positive on both nights.

[Chen G. 4,620]

I mean the moviegoing public, not people who are preconditioned to single out the music.

[ocelot 554]

Most of my casual Star Wars friends love Rey's theme and hum it all the time. Well, all the time after the film, lol, not getting ready to go out and party

[BloodBoal 7,541]

I don't think Rey's theme is any less popular than Across The Stars amongst the moviegoing public, to be honest.

[Bilbo 3,828]

The Star Wars fans I know on twitter were all about Rey’s theme for weeks after TFA and they generally know nothing about film music! 

[Kostov 58]

Why, why, why??? I'm really disappointed.

[ocelot 554]

3 minutes ago, Kostov said:

Why, why, why??? I'm really disappointed.

Wait, I'm confused now. What part are you disappointed about? That there is no mention of score yet or that there's nothing being put out? or both?

[Demodex 573]

1 hour ago, BloodBoal said:

 

Rey's theme is just that.

 

NO.  For me, Rey's theme is very forgettable.  I remember listening to the soundtrack many times and not remembering how it went. 

[Kostov 58]

4 minutes ago, ocelot said:

Wait, I'm confused now. What part are you disappointed about? That there is no mention of score yet or that there's nothing being put out? or both?

I prefer to see JW conducting. I don't wanna know so much about peoples thoughts and don't get me wrong here, I respect others opinions but now exactly I really want to hear(not to read comments) the music and enjoy it.

[gkgyver 1,647]

56 minutes ago, Bilbo said:

The Star Wars fans I know on twitter were all about Rey’s theme for weeks after TFA and they generally know nothing about film music! 

 

Star Wars Fans not being aware of film music is an oxymoron.

 

Not a valid gauge of the popularity.

[mrbellamy 6,753]

 

 

 

[Balahkay 629]

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Some wonderful callbacks to past films.

 

Awesome comments!  But the above interests me the most!  Luke and Leia's theme perhaps?  I wonder what else?

 

Spoiler

Yoda's theme?

 

[Taikomochi 1,222]

That Anthony Breznican tweet seems like he was doing his best to find the nicest way to say he didn’t even notice the score. 

[mrbellamy 6,753]

2 minutes ago, Taikomochi said:

That Anthony Breznican tweet seems like he was doing his best to find the nicest way to say he didn’t even notice the score. 

 

Lol kinda my thought too.

[Bilbo 3,828]

3 minutes ago, Taikomochi said:

That Anthony Breznican tweet seems like he was doing his best to find the nicest way to say he didn’t even notice the score. 

Yeah, I don’t think he has a clue.

[KK 3,308]

10 hours ago, BloodBoal said:

Still, finding TFA to be the weakest score in a series that has AOTC in it...

Chase Through Coruscant >>>>>>>>>>> everything and anything in TFA

[ocelot 554]

So on the John Campea show on youtube today he was asked about the score.

 

"Was the musical score up to par?"

 

"I loved the music. Loved it. They new exactly when to use the recognizable Star Wars music and they knew exactly when to put John Williams's new stuff. Williams does it again. Williams totally does it again, I love the music in the movie"

 

@ 45.26 (apologies, I don't know how to clip things or make things start in certain places.) EDIT: Also at 51.48 he says somewhat the same thing.

 

 

 

[Chewy 2,510]

Great, can't wait anymore now  You know how to make people even more excited right? xD

[ocelot 554]

Hope so. I see people arguing up there rather than being excited together for a new score! lol

[BloodBoal 7,541]

[Ollie 1,136]

He put the arrows backwards.

[BloodBoal 7,541]

Oh, my bad then, KK!

[KK 3,308]

26 minutes ago, BloodBoal said:

Idiot >>>>>>>>>>> you!

 

24 minutes ago, El Jefe said:

He put the arrows backwards.

 

Fools! Both of you!