karelm 2,914 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Many composers have very interesting musical ideas of the sea...a domain of mystery, lore, life, and great danger. Herrmann: Johnny Williams: Atterberg: Britten's Sea Interludes: Frank Bridge: Debussy La Mer: John Luther Adams Become Ocean: Vaughan Williams' Sea Symphony ...millions of others. Other noteworthy examples? Whose musical interpretation of the sea is your favorite? publicist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,484 Posted June 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2018 Well, it's not really the sea... but a cavern by the sea... Mendelssohn's Hebrides Overture. Cerebral Cortex, crocodile, Jurassic Shark and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,208 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,715 Posted June 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2018 Christopher Gordon's Moby Dick: Pieter Boelen, dtw42 and Marian Schedenig 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Karol leeallen01 and publicist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 Did Goldsmith compose any sea music? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 FFFRRROOOOMWOOOOSH! PWUUUOOOSSHTSSSSHHH! That's a good impression, of the sea. 6 minutes ago, karelm said: Did Goldsmith compose any sea music? Try THE MARLIN, from ISLANDS IN THE STREAM. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Debussy wins for me. It is probably impossible to beat La Mer. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 58 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: The Bourne Symphony?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Here by the sea and sand nothing ever goes as planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I'm disgusted these scores haven't already been mentioned. Allow me to correct this contemptible error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,208 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Incanus said: Christopher Gordon's Moby Dick: Philip Sainton's Moby Dick: There's a bit of sea in this one as well: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 2 hours ago, karelm said: Did Goldsmith compose any sea music? His rejected "The Enterprise" and "Leaving Drydock" cues have been described as "aquatic". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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karelm 2,914 Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 hour ago, kaseykockroach said: I'm disgusted these scores haven't already been mentioned. Allow me to correct this contemptible error. You should be ashamed of yourself for not mentioning these sooner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 shockwave 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 The Deep! My favorite score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 I can't find the track on youtube but I suppose a clip will do: This is the most evocative piece of the underwater realm I have ever heard. My favorite passage from the whole score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Loert 2,515 Posted June 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2018 The Swedish composer Gösta Nystroem (1890-1966) composed many pieces based on the sea. The piece which I came to know him by is called Ishavet (Arctic Ocean): Of course, how could we forget Rimsky-Korsakov: (I love this recording but it has an annoying hum in the bass. You might have to play with the EQ in your audio manager to get rid of it). To be honest, when I first listened to this I imagined a lone person walking through a mountain range in the middle of a blizzard. " The work, subtitled a "prelude-cantata", consists mostly of a long and highly pictorial orchestral overture that depicts the sea voyage from Homer's Odyssey: Ulysses, thrown by Poseidon into the sea, is protected by the veil of the goddess Leucothea, daughter of Cadmus." I doubt Chopin really had an ocean in mind when writing this, but, you can't argue with the fact that the sheet music kinda looks like ocean waves... (It never fails to amaze me how Chopin turned what would be normal pianistic studies into something so musical...) 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Great shout with the Wagner! Wagner came up with the idea of The Flying Dutchman whilst voyageing from Königsberg to London to escape his creditors in Riga and Eastern Prussia and seek new opportunities. The voyage would have normally taken eight days, but heavy storms extended this to three and a half weeks as the ship had to seek refuge in the Norwegian fjords. It was the call of the sailors as it was reflected from the coastal rocks that would get implanted into Wagner's memory as he began work on Hollander a few years later, and which he would recreate musically in the call of the sailors just after the overture. My favourite moment from the opera is when the Flying Dutchman crew start singing in the middle of Act Three. Unfortunately, too many recordings fail to capture the thrilling intensity of that moment, including Solti's, but Keilberth's 1955 and 1956 recordings are fantastic. Here's the 1956 version (2:08:20-2:10:55): Btw, since I'm on Wagner, I also want to include the beginning of Act Three from Gotterdammerung. I know it's cheating a bit, since the location is on the edge of a river (the Rhine), but Wagner's impressions of the lapping and rippling water I think are worthy of inclusion in this thread: SteveMc, karelm and Jurassic Shark 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted June 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2018 Chen G., Gruesome Son of a Bitch and Holko 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,530 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 0:12-1:06 This is precisely how I imagine the sea, having never seen it in person: calming, serene, endless, but with an underlying uneasy darkness if you start thinking about it: anything can be under your feet and the endless horizon means you could be lost anywhere. The main post didn't explicitly specify orchestral compositions, so there's the other classic La Mer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 karelm and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,552 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 #The scattered pages of a book by the sea...# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,359 Posted June 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2018 Pieter Boelen, publicist, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,208 Posted June 24, 2018 Share Posted June 24, 2018 Here's an island in the stormy North Sea: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeH 768 Posted June 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 24, 2018 Oh, how could I forget another Herrmann gem. Incanus, publicist and karelm 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,914 Posted June 24, 2018 Author Share Posted June 24, 2018 1 minute ago, MikeH said: Oh, how could I forget another Herrmann gem. How could we have forgotten this gem?! A beautiful film as well. Sort of like the 1948 version of "Ghost". How about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Youtube overload! The Bounty has spurred some great scores. Love Kaper's for MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY -- especially the 'setting out to sea' cue that is not only rousing, but also has cymbal crashes mimicking the waves splashing on to the surface of the ship. And Vangelis' BOUNTY is a spectacular score that captures the sweltering, boiling (both psychologically and physically) heat onboard the ship. The opening cue, in particular, over those red-tinted shots is absolutely stunning. A shame only a couple of tracks have been released on the (IMO must-have) compilation THEMES. stewdog1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, Thor said: Youtube overload! The Bounty has spurred some great scores. Love Kaper's for MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY -- especially the 'setting out to sea' cue that is not only rousing, but also has cymbal crashes mimicking the waves splashing on to the surface of the ship. And Vangelis' BOUNTY is a spectacular score that captures the sweltering, boiling (both psychologically and physically) heat onboard the ship. The opening cue, in particular, over those red-tinted shots is absolutely stunning. A shame only a couple of tracks have been released on the (IMO must-have) compilation THEMES. Show us the Youtube videos! I've actually got the Themes compilation, and it would have been quite perfect if it was updated to include music from 1492. Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Indeed. 1492 is the perfect flipside to THE BOUNTY, with some similar approaches going on (for similarly-tinted sequences). Come to think of it, wasn't there a 'recreation' album of THE BOUNTY released awhile back, performed by someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 This one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 That's it, yes. I've been hesitant to pick it up, since Vangelis is almost impossible to recreate properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 What do you think about his concert work Mythodea? I quite like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: What do you think about his concert work Mythodea? I quite like it! I have it. It's OK, but a bit too massive without the dynamic range of his purely electronic efforts. It gets somewhat tiresome eventually, and I'm not convinced Vangelis works with orchestral forces. I much rather prefer his ROSETTA album from 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Thor said: I have it. It's OK, but a bit too massive without the dynamic range of his purely electronic efforts. It gets somewhat tiresome eventually, and I'm not convinved Vangelis works with orchestral forces. I much rather prefer his ROSETTA album from 2016. I agree that it becomes a bit tiresome in one listen, but it's quite varied and full of highlights. To me, Rosetta was a disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,530 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 The opening's great, never heard more from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Omen II 1,235 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 English composer Clifton Parker had a particular affinity for writing music redolent of the briny main. As well as Treasure Island mentioned above by @Fal, check out his music for The Blue Lagoon, Glory At Sea, Virgin Island, Mystery Submarine and many others. Here is a typical example - Seascape from the 1943 documentary Western Approaches: publicist and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Mythodea is pretty weak, it is among Vangelis's weakest works - it can't be compared to great works like Blade Runner or 1492. The Bounty is a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,208 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 13 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I love Gerhardt's recording of the Hornpipe: Curiously, it seems to be the exact same piece that shows up at around the 5 minute mark in your video, only on the Gerhardt recording it has a snare drum. These should count, too: More: Jurassic Shark and Incanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 6/24/2018 at 8:15 AM, karelm said: Did Goldsmith compose any sea music? I'm sure there are other examples. The unused Star Trek TMP cues are indeed very nautical sounding as well. Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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karelm 2,914 Posted June 26, 2018 Author Share Posted June 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: I'm sure there are other examples. The unused Star Trek TMP cues are indeed very nautical sounding as well. Yavar How could I forget one of my favorite of his scores from an equally lovely film? 1 hour ago, Yavar Moradi said: I'm sure there are other examples. The unused Star Trek TMP cues are indeed very nautical sounding as well. Makes a lot of sense since the ocean was "the final frontier" throughout almost all of our history until the 1960's. I get that the sea can be a metaphor for space too. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 4 hours ago, karelm said: Makes a lot of sense since the ocean was "the final frontier" throughout almost all of our history until the 1960's. I get that the sea can be a metaphor for space too. I don't think it's an accident that so many score for space based adventures (Star Wars, Star Trek, Treasure Planet, etc.) use sea faring swashbucklers and tone poems as a source of inspiration. Both sea and space tap into our collective romanticization and fascination with the unknown; the risks, dangers, and beauties of venturing beyond our comfort zone into an infinite seeming realm where unforseen wonders and catastrophes can await at any moment. On 6/24/2018 at 9:09 AM, Marian Schedenig said: Philip Sainton's Moby Dick: There's a bit of sea in this one as well: Wait, do Topic videos work outside of the US, now? karelm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,086 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 At least some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post leeallen01 2,136 Posted June 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2018 JNH loves swimming. There's obviously Flow Like Water, but this other piece from Airbender always reminds me of a great voyage across an ocean - I also love what Joel Goldsmith did with Stargate Atlantis. He gave his music the sound of the sea. Thor, Yavar Moradi and Incanus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,519 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Good call on "Swimming" from WATERWORLD. It's not only a perfect suggestion in this thread; it might very well be one of my alltime favourite film music cues! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 surprised no one has mentioned Jaws 2 yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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