TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 26 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I know this has been discussed before, but what would a 2-disc Philosopher's Stone that includes the Children's Suite look like? I thought it had to be 3. The main one I want is Azkaban anyway, I don't really care how they release it as long as I get it! HPPS complete film score clocks around 129 minutes. The Children's Suite is around 18 minutes. The alternates we know about and the source music (including the Coke ad) are not beyond 6 minutes, but it's likely some few things (perhaps minor things like the Christmas Spell music box or Hagrid Plays the Flute) won't be included. Or perhaps they will do the same thing they did with Superman and will include source music from the first three films on future expansions of the non-JW-scored sequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The Children's Suite is just over 20 minutes isn't it? Plus 5 minutes for the Hedwig's Theme concert arrangment. I'm no expert on the score, so I fully defer to others! Just wanted to get the discussion going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TownerFan 4,991 Posted October 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2018 Well, down to technical details. The pieces of the Children's Suite JW recorded at the time of HPPS film sessions aren't exactly the same as the published suite, there are minor differences (Diagon Alley has a different finale, for example). The final movement of the suite (Harry's Wondrous World) is actually "End Credits Pt.1", but with a different, more bombastic coda. But from what we know, he didn't record it that way. The concert finale fix was recorded the year later by William Ross for the CoS album. Disco Stu, TSMefford and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,593 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 It's 24 minutes as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 The more I think about it, the more likely it seems that LLL and not Watertower will release this, given their books quote and the upcoming Black Friday release. And if it's not BF, they just moved a 'super cool' release to next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brundlefly 2,385 Posted October 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2018 51 minutes ago, King Mark said: the Indy box was made to be as cheap as possible i'm still convinced we got that bonus disk with extra cues because all the panic it caused here just prior to release .You can tell it wasn't meant to initially go into the box Try once to suppress your pessimism for at least three posts, please. Taikomochi, Alan, Bayesian and 4 others 3 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,754 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 And the idea that the bonus disc had anything to do with jWFan panicking is ridiculous. I think it's just an indication of the battles Bouzerou had to go through to release anything more than a few bonus tracks, and that JW must have relented and agreed to more music once the packaging had already been designed. We're in a different era now. The only danger is if MM has indeed done it for Watertower and has had to make concessions for a mass market release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 23 days until we find out... 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alan 689 Posted October 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 31, 2018 2 hours ago, King Mark said: it's the Indy box all over again It's one of our big holy grail franchise scores so they'll screw it up somehow , they always do . A semi half-assed set with as many "cost cutting" decisions as possible Then MM will say he had his "hands tied" for many of the decisions of what went on there What on earth are you basing any of that on?? You'd think the years of fantastic MM produced Williams releases we've had would at least give you some comfort. We've had zero indication of what these sets will look like outside of an early reveal that they're happening and that MM is involved. That's all I need to know we're going to get the best release possible. We're quite probably at the end of a 7 year wait since we were first told that these releases were close - enjoy it! Molly Weasley, Chewy, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 I think he's basing that on his own pessimism... 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 KM is a natural pessimistic person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,646 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Careful, don't make fun of KM's insecurity, it may be perceived as vicious attacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 8 hours ago, Josh500 said: I think he's basing that on his own pessimism... 😂 we've had a lot of crushing disappointments in the history of JWfan. But I have confidence every single expansion that's not Star Wars,Indiana Jones and Harry Potter will be 100% perfect though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,500 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 « Disappointment is our lot in life » - JWfan-PO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,364 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I do find it curious that right after the poster for Schindler's List spilled the beans about that score being re-released, LLL informally confirmed the release on FSM. It's been nearly a week since the Potter expansions were "leaked" and there hasn't been a whisper from anyone at LLL or Mike about the releases. Kinda weird? Mike wrote the program, presumably including his bio, so... bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,414 Posted November 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, crumbs said: It's been nearly a week since the Potter expansions were "leaked" and there hasn't been a whisper from anyone at LLL or Mike about the releases. Kinda weird? To me, it's a good sign. I think they would deny any fake information but as soon as it is real, I doubt they'd confirm it if it isn't supposed to be announced now. Molly Weasley, A. A. Ron and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alan 689 Posted November 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, crumbs said: I do find it curious that right after the poster for Schindler's List spilled the beans about that score being re-released, LLL informally confirmed the release on FSM. It's been nearly a week since the Potter expansions were "leaked" and there hasn't been a whisper from anyone at LLL or Mike about the releases. Kinda weird? Mike wrote the program, presumably including his bio, so... I suspect that'll have something to do with the amount at stake for this release, if indeed it is LLL releasing it. I don't imagine that for something the size of Potter they'll want to say anything until everything is in order and certain. You can delay Superman 2 & 3 without annoying too many people. Harry Potter feels like another thing altogether. Bayesian, Arpy and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 WB will want every detail, artwork and all to be locked down. I can imagine it being a tense project with expectations through the roof... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Meanwhile, I keep comforting myself by looking at Jay's 'JW scores by studio' thread and telling myself that WB didn't interfere with Matession's past WB titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Maybe, just maybe, we'll know later today (I think it's much more likely to be announced on 23rd though) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 38 minutes ago, Alan said: I suspect that'll have something to do with the amount at stake for this release, if indeed it is LLL releasing it. I don't imagine that for something the size of Potter they'll want to say anything until everything is in order and certain. You can delay Superman 2 & 3 without annoying too many people. Harry Potter feels like another thing altogether. Yes, it's the kind of release they're going to want to have a strategy for making sure it filters out into the general entertainment news industry online. They would want a Potter soundtrack release to be reported everywhere from The Leaky Cauldron to Slashfilm to Variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 So Fantastic Beasts 2 is released on 16th November and they're announcing three titles today. I know I just said I think it's more likely the be the 23rd for BF shipping, if they're releasing this year, but suddenly I've starting thinking they might try to release earlier to tie in to FB2? My excitement levels are rising. Someone please slap me. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,213 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 It would make sense if the expanded HPs weren't limited releases, so then perhaps Watertower is the more likely label? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Maybe they're in cahoots! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I hope The Swarm or Innerspace will be announced today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 November 16th is exactly 17 years after the release of the first film. Of course, who cares about 17th anniversaries? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 In my opinion, it seems more likely to be a BF release. I mean, we know Schindler's List and Superman are also coming and we can't possibly have three JW titles on one day, right? I'm thinking Superman today (because of the FSM 'super' release quote) and then HP and SL on Black Friday. Jurassic Shark and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: November 16th is exactly 17 years after the release of the first film. Of course, who cares about 17th anniversaries? You're right. I'm going to write to LLL and Watertower and ask them both to delay until 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Speaking of 2021, if MM has managed to pull off another beautiful release here, what will that mean for the endless franchise butchering in the future? Or would WB finally have realised only WE care about these sets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Don't underestimate the power of re-issues with different packaging and "collectable" art cards Also, I think WB will be more interested in releasing some sort of HP 1-8 soundtrack boxset to celebrate the 20th anniversary. Their wider audience will be far less interested in separating the JW scores from t'others. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,213 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: November 16th is exactly 17 years after the release of the first film. Of course, who cares about 17th anniversaries? Well, it is a prime number. Chewy and redishere 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 9 hours ago, King Mark said: we've had a lot of wonderful and incredible moments in the history of JWfan. There, fixed it for you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,364 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: In my opinion, it seems more likely to be a BF release. I mean, we know Schindler's List and Superman are also coming and we can't possibly have three JW titles on one day, right? I'm thinking Superman today (because of the FSM 'super' release quote) and then HP and SL on Black Friday. What time today? I want to sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Well, it's 6:30am in la la land right now, so they won't even be in the office yet. If they roll right into the office and unfurl the banner, you'd still have 2-3 hours. Most of the time when they announce stuff, it's in the afternoon, meaning 6+ hours from now. Just sleep! If something is announced, it'll still be here when you wake up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2018 11 minutes ago, mstrox said: Well, it's 6:30am in la la land right now, so they won't even be in the office yet. If they roll right into the office and unfurl the banner, you'd still have 2-3 hours. Most of the time when they announce stuff, it's in the afternoon, meaning 6+ hours from now. Just sleep! If something is announced, it'll still be here when you wake up Or they could announce it at ANY second Once, crumbs, Alan and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,364 Posted November 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2018 47 minutes ago, Bilbo said: Or they could announce it at ANY second Well, better put the kettle on! mstrox, Disco Stu and Bilbo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Dang it! I'm gonna have to find out in the morning, or whenever I wake up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redishere 697 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 On 10/31/2018 at 12:59 PM, Disco Stu said: "Hedwig's Theme (Paul Oakenfold Remix)" I laughed way louder than a normal human being should laugh, 'cause I imagined the damn thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,754 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 3 hours ago, Alan said: Don't underestimate the power of re-issues with different packaging and "collectable" art cards Also, I think WB will be more interested in releasing some sort of HP 1-8 soundtrack boxset to celebrate the 20th anniversary. Their wider audience will be far less interested in separating the JW scores from t'others. I'm not with you there. To the average person the scores to 4-8 are, I'd argue, pretty irrelevant and unknown. I'd say that if there's going to be any box set for public consumption, it's only going to have one name on it. bollemanneke and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: I'm not with you there. To the average person the scores to 4-8 are, I'd argue, pretty irrelevant and unknown. I'd say that if there's going to be any box set for public consumption, it's only going to have one name on it. There was a box set released this year or last that was a collection of all eight OSTs, I've never seen it but it has been done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,593 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I remember a I-V vinyl box set and the announcement of an unauthorised South American 16-disc boxset comprised of the leaked sessions, some fanedits and some rips. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 The average people I know only know 1-4, but you can't just not release 4-8! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Who 924 Posted November 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2018 I would say the very average person only knows Hedwig's theme, not who composed it or in which movie it appeared first. They would just say the Harry Potter theme or "Harry Potter song". Chewy, bollemanneke, Once and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 535 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, Mr. Who said: I would say the very average person only knows Hedwig's theme, not who composed it or in which movie it appeared first. They would just say the Harry Potter theme or "Harry Potter song". This makes blood come out of my ears 😂 bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 924 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 4 minutes ago, aj_vader said: This makes blood come out of my ears 😂 Haha of course. But my point is that these people wouldn't be humming Marge's Waltz any more than they would be humming Lily's theme. Once and aj_vader 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,334 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. Who said: I would say the very average person only knows Hedwig's theme, not who composed it or in which movie it appeared first. They would just say the Harry Potter theme or "Harry Potter song". Well that's starting with the average person who has only seen half of the movies or less. Theoretically, I think someone who has seen all the movies could stretch a few more from Williams, maybe not humming them on command but at least calling out "Harry Potter" if they heard it blindly. I don't think Double Trouble or the Nimbus 2000 themes are too much of a deep cut. If you started playing the last building statement of the family theme from "Leaving Hogwarts" and said name that movie, half would get it and the other half would be going "Ohhh I know this" until Hedwig's Theme gives it away. But yeah, not much more than that. Buckbeak's Flight maybe. As for 4-8, I might actually guess Fireworks would be the most recognizable. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I know someone who recognises the Nimbus 2000 theme as HP material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, mrbellamy said: Well that's starting with the average person who has only seen half of the movies or less. Theoretically, I think someone who has seen all the movies could stretch a few more from Williams, maybe not humming them on command but at least calling out "Harry Potter" if they heard it blindly. I don't think Double Trouble or the Nimbus 2000 themes are too much of a deep cut. If you started playing the last building statement of the family theme from "Leaving Hogwarts" and said name that movie, half would get it and the other half would be going "Ohhh I know this" until Hedwig's Theme gives it away. But yeah, not much more than that. Buckbeak's Flight maybe. As for 4-8, I might actually guess Fireworks would be the most recognizable. Yes. Fireworks and I also know several people who love Lily's Theme and recognize it as such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,240 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: I know someone who recognises the Nimbus 2000 theme as HP material. To most people, that's probably just a part of Hedwig's Theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,367 Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Well, in a way it is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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