crumbs 14,367 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Pulse of the City is reasonably clean in the rear channels, and it's actually a very fun cue! What a shame it wasn't included on the album (even though I understand why, if Williams didn't even write it!) Andy and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I presume Pulse of the City won't be on the FYC because it wasn't written by Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Sadly not But it's intertwined with source music anyway, so I think that was always unlikely. Who knows if anything from the prologue will be included, potentially not! There's plenty of chunks of new music, but it's constantly interrupted by recycled music from scores 1-4. Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 doesn't it violate the oscar rules? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 I got through the first 30 minutes of the film last night. Within those first 30 minutes (actually 30 1/2 minutes), there is 21 minutes of score. The opening Prologue is about 22 minutes long, and contains 18:15 or so of score. Damien F and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 On 14/08/2023 at 10:50 AM, Andy said: Home Video Release Announcement August 29. Digital only, with discs presumably to follow later. The bonus features list John Williams in one of the Making of Chapters. No isolated score is listed. Has anybody on JWFan purchased the film digitally and watched these bonus features yet? If I understand correctly, the bonus features are not on Disney+, and only come with a VOD purchase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,410 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 Where would be the best place to purchase from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 Appears to be $20 on both Amazon and Vudu so I guess it wouldn't matter? https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/indiana-jones-5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,410 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jay said: Appears to be $20 on both Amazon and Vudu so I guess it wouldn't matter? https://www.justwatch.com/us/movie/indiana-jones-5 Well, I was referring more to downloadability, quality etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 29, 2023 Author Share Posted August 29, 2023 OK, I just learned I was misinformed; The movie isn't even on Disney+ yet, it only arrived on VOD today. The Disney+ launch date is not currently known. So, the featurette very well could be on Disney+, once the movie gets added there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,496 Posted August 29, 2023 Share Posted August 29, 2023 I bought the film on YouTube and listened to it at work today. To Morocco has a different ending in the film. Its a very minor difference but it's noticeable and much much better than the one we got on the OST. Brando and Dr. Know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brando 1,889 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 3 hours ago, Bellosh said: To Morocco has a different ending in the film. Its a very minor difference but it's noticeable and much much better than the one we got on the OST. JW: Edmilson, Tydirium, Will and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Isn't the film version just a microedited version of the OST track? It's missing the biggest statement of Helena's Theme. Unless the film version is To Morocco Again, which might be JW poking fun at writing a revised ending? 14 hours ago, LB Makes Stuff said: It’s indeed in that scene, but the line is actually “For who?” also, the music is pitched down for that scene compared to the album version. Yes, you're right! It's Indy's line. Even though it's unscored in this clip, in the film itself it's scored with the first 47 seconds of New York, 1969 (so that section of the OST track must be the cue For Who... Whom?) Brando and CGCJ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB Makes Stuff 240 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Any idea possible theories as to why it’s pitched down in the film? I find that very odd personally, sounds perfectly fine on its own to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 OK got through the Tuk Tuk chase tonight. So there's 48 minutes of score in the first 68 minutes of the film. And nothing from the opening NYC section of the film is on the album except some Voller music. Bill Ross' Pulse of the City cue is GREAT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,038 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jay said: OK got through the Tuk Tuk chase tonight. So there's 48 minutes of score in the first 68 minutes of the film. And nothing from the opening NYC section of the film is on the album except some Voller music. Bill Ross' Pulse of the City cue is GREAT! Have you checked out the Bonus Features? Is there enough Williams in it to purchase it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 I don't have a clue about any features. I'm hoping they show up on Disney+ when the film does Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, DangerMotif said: Have you checked out the Bonus Features? Is there enough Williams in it to purchase it? A few clips have been released and unfortunately it's full of generic music. The first clip they released used Williams' score for Ancient Syracuse, so I hoped the entire documentary would use JW music. Seems I was wrong. But it'd still be great to see whatever interview footage with Williams they've done. Brando and Faleel 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,907 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 I found this kinda neat. During the second half of the chase when the Tuk Tuk gets sandwiched between the two cars, the percussion (bongos?) from earlier picks up again, but you can't hear it in the film at all. In fact as far as I can tell they appear to be completely muted in the front and center channels. Full film audio: 1.mp3 Music only: 2.mp3 EDIT: Also in the same cue, gee this sounds awfully familiar... NotTheConveyorBelt.mp3 LB Makes Stuff, Cerebral Cortex, enderdrag64 and 14 others 6 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CompleteRecordingSessions 43 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 55 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: EDIT: Also in the same cue, gee this sounds awfully familiar... NotTheConveyorBelt.mp3 885.71 kB · 74 downloads Indiana Jones and the Conveyor of Destiny. Manakin Skywalker, Brando, ThePenitentMan1 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,367 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I found this kinda neat. During the second half of the chase when the Tuk Tuk gets sandwiched between the two cars, the percussion (bongos?) from earlier picks up again, but you can't hear it in the film at all. In fact as far as I can tell they appear to be completely muted in the front and center channels. Full film audio: 1.mp3 343.88 kB · 104 downloads Music only: 2.mp3 343.88 kB · 125 downloads EDIT: Also in the same cue, gee this sounds awfully familiar... NotTheConveyorBelt.mp3 885.71 kB · 116 downloads What dark magic have you summoned to extract such spectacularly clean unreleased music?! Colour me impressed!! Will, Brando, Brónach and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 326 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Let’s get the full end credits ripped, please! CompleteRecordingSessions 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 Haha, I noticed that Conveyor Belt moment last night too! Manakin Skywalker and CompleteRecordingSessions 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB Makes Stuff 240 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 7 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I found this kinda neat. During the second half of the chase when the Tuk Tuk gets sandwiched between the two cars, the percussion (bongos?) from earlier picks up again, but you can't hear it in the film at all. In fact as far as I can tell they appear to be completely muted in the front and center channels. Full film audio: 1.mp3 343.88 kB · 344 downloads Music only: 2.mp3 343.88 kB · 368 downloads EDIT: Also in the same cue, gee this sounds awfully familiar... NotTheConveyorBelt.mp3 885.71 kB · 449 downloads JESUS THATS CLEAN WHAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,655 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 8 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Music only: EDIT: Also in the same cue, gee this sounds awfully familiar... NotTheConveyorBelt.mp3 885.71 kB · 523 downloads Crystal Lightsabers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 11 hours ago, Jay said: OK got through the Tuk Tuk chase tonight. So there's 48 minutes of score in the first 68 minutes of the film. And nothing from the opening NYC section of the film is on the album except some Voller music. Bill Ross' Pulse of the City cue is GREAT! I think there is about 20 - 30 seconds from the beginning of the Polybius Cipher track that plays when Helana follows Indy from the college to the bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 Oh good tip, I hadn't discovered that yet! Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,251 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Damien F said: I think there is about 20 - 30 seconds from the beginning of the Polybius Cipher track that plays when Helana follows Indy from the college to the bar. I believe that's tracked, because the same music appears again along with the rest of the Polybius Cipher material. That would explain why 'Helena's Tutorial' is in the cue list in two different places. My little theory is the very opening of the Prologue track is the original cue composed for Helena's introduction. Will and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 I agree with Brothersound. BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Andy 4,242 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 10 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I found this kinda neat. During the second half of the chase when the Tuk Tuk gets sandwiched between the two cars, the percussion (bongos?) from earlier picks up again, but you can't hear it in the film at all. In fact as far as I can tell they appear to be completely muted in the front and center channels. Full film audio: 1.mp3 343.88 kB · 684 downloads Music only: 2.mp3 343.88 kB · 716 downloads EDIT: Also in the same cue, gee this sounds awfully familiar... NotTheConveyorBelt.mp3 885.71 kB · 938 downloads And that my friends is how the J-Team works. I love it when a plan comes together. Jay, Brando and Manakin Skywalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Chewy 2,414 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 The Other Intersection Scene WOTW.wav crumbs, Brando, Jay and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 The FYC album has arrived: https://debut.disney.com/fyc/twds/movie/indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny-1687388228406?tab=music 01 - Prologue to Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny 4:58 02 - Helena's Theme 3:30 03 - Germany 1944 4:42 04 - To Morocco 3:21 05 - Voller Returns 3:06 06 - Auction at Hotel L'Atlantique 2:58 07 - Tuk Tuk in Tangiers 2:29 08 - To Athens 2:17 09 - Perils of the Deep 2:31 10 - Water Ballet 2:29 11 - Polybius Cipher 2:29 12 - The Grafikos 1:59 13 - Archemedes Tomb 1:59 14 - The Airport 1:59 15 - Battle of Syracuse 1:59 16 - Centuries Joins Hands 1:29 17 - New York 1969 1:29 18 - Helena's Theme (For Violin and Orchestra) 1:29 Chewy, Cameron1138, LB Makes Stuff and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,414 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Hopefully this great cue is available on the FYC GreatCue.wav EDIT: really??? FYC=OST ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 The lengths are different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,414 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 The FYC is in 24-bit / 96kHz!! 11 minutes ago, Jay said: The lengths are different Many files look corrupted, with a cut ending. Only some files are correct, and have the same contents as the OST: 2. Helena's Theme 3. Germany 1944 4. To Morocco 5. Voller Returns 6. Auction at L'Hôtel Atlantique 8. To Athens 9. Perils Of the Deep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 Yea it looks like they tried to upload the OST album (in 24bit / 96khz), but 11 tracks got corrupted along the way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 Yes, so it looks like there will be no separate FYC album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,414 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jay said: Yea it looks like they tried to upload the OST album (in 24bit / 96khz), but 11 tracks got corrupted along the way Sent an email to inform them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,742 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, Chewy said: Sent an email to inform them! Can you also ask them to upload the complete sessions. enderdrag64, Bayesian, A. A. Ron and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,907 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 So... were the rules changed recently or something, so now they're able to use OST masters? Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 Either the rules changed or whoever is in charge of uploading doesn't know them. The same thing happened last year with Fabelmans, it was just all the OST tracks instead of the actual film versions. It's a big disappointment after the great run of '11-'19 of getting new music from every Williams scores via FYC iamleyeti, Andy, enderdrag64 and 6 others 4 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,144 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 I just assumed the rules didn’t really apply to Williams, that they’d let him skate by because of his stature. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 Anyone follow any other 2022 scores to know if their FYCs matched their OSTS or not? I know for 2021 scores, Dune's FYC was definitely different than the OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DangerMotif 1,038 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, Jay said: Anyone follow any other 2022 scores to know if their FYCs matched their OSTS or not? I know for 2021 scores, Dune's FYC was definitely different than the OST Wakanda Forever was the same, I think the same for Avatar, all the disney titles and The Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 Yeah, sounds about right. Bad news for film score fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KittBash 283 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jay said: Yeah, sounds about right. Bad news for film score fans. Bad news indeed... I was so waiting for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,410 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 It's also possible, however unlikely, that they might find a weakness and re-upload it. Err... they might put out an updated version that's closer to as in the film, sort of like how Rogue Nation (I know different studio etc.) had like 3 different versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted August 30, 2023 Share Posted August 30, 2023 We got some absolutely vital cues from the FYCs over the years. It's a pity that has seemingly come to an end. Andy and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,479 Posted August 30, 2023 Author Share Posted August 30, 2023 I really wanted Fabelmans to have that great "Escape to Nowhere" cue, and was hoping Indy 5 would have more music from the Prologue and NYC sections. But as soon as I saw Disney not bother with FYCs for their other summer-release movies (BFG's never going on the website and Solo not getting one at all), I had zero hopes that Indy 5 would even get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Damien F 1,742 Posted August 30, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 30, 2023 We are here lamenting about unreleased JW cues and Jon Broxton (who I have a lot of time for) just tweeted to complain that a new album for a TV series is too long because it is 4 hours. I'd rather have too much released music than not enough. Edmilson, enderdrag64, Holko and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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