Did you get the Dial of Destiny soundtrack on the CD format before it sold out?

[Holko 9,529]

24 minutes ago, mstrox said:

That idea goes beyond the rights holder, because a bootleg doesn’t financially benefit any other associated parties - for instance, the composer or union musicians who fought hard to negotiate reuse fees for their work.  A bootleg release or a law facilitating such would essentially just cut through all the red tape (which may be the barrier to release in the first place) by ignoring it.

Well they're not getting any money from nonexistent releases either. The situation doesn't change.

[enderdrag64 624]

1 hour ago, mstrox said:

That idea goes beyond the rights holder, because a bootleg doesn’t financially benefit any other associated parties - for instance, the composer or union musicians who fought hard to negotiate reuse fees for their work.  A bootleg release or a law facilitating such would essentially just cut through all the red tape (which may be the barrier to release in the first place) by ignoring it.

I mean neither do used sales on ebay....

[Bespin 8,484]

After watching "Tenet" today, a strange coincidence occurred – an email arrived, notifying me that my Indiana Jones 5 Limited Edition OST on CD will arrive next week. 

[GlastoEls 563]

Still forlornly refreshing the website a few times a day!

[mstrox 6,651]

3 hours ago, Holko said:

Well they're not getting any money from nonexistent releases either. The situation doesn't change.

The situation does change, because now their work is being used and they are not being paid for it - despite the fact that payment is due to them.

1 hour ago, enderdrag64 said:

I mean neither do used sales on ebay....

Sure - the artist would have been reimbursed at the first sale by law.  If you buy used, dues related to that piece of plastic have already been paid

[filmmusic 1,838]

2 hours ago, Bespin said:

After watching "Tenet" today, a strange coincidence occurred – an email arrived, notifying me that my Indiana Jones 5 Limited Edition OST on CD will arrive next week. 

? I thought you hadn't bought it.

[rough cut 1,714]

Did you see Tenet? 😉

[JTN 2,038]

14 minutes ago, rough cut said:

Did you see Tenet? 😉

Tenet saw him.

[crocodile 8,018]

That film was so backwards.

 

But, seriously, perhaps Nolan is performing miracles again? Bringing back sold out releases from the dead.

 

 

Everyone, go watch Oppenheimer!

 

Karol

[Bayesian 1,363]

2 hours ago, Bespin said:

After watching "Tenet" today, a strange coincidence occurred – an email arrived, notifying me that my Indiana Jones 5 Limited Edition OST on CD will arrive next week. 

Did the email explicitly indicate the CD as a limited edition?? That would be interesting, seeing as it hadn’t received that disclaimer on the emporium website. 

[Bryant Burnette 654]

Some of y'all are dense.

[Bespin 8,484]

23 minutes ago, Bayesian said:

Did the email explicitly indicate the CD as a limited edition?? That would be interesting, seeing as it hadn’t received that disclaimer on the emporium website. 

 

Oh no, it's a 500 000 units edition! In fact, the album is already Gold! 😝

[Brónach 1,302]

Hidden Treasure and the CD of Gold.

[Jay 37,372]

1 hour ago, filmmusic said:

? I thought you hadn't bought it.

 

 

Konstantinos, Tenet is a time travel film. 

[filmmusic 1,838]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

 

 

Konstantinos, Tenet is a time travel film. 

Oh, I didn't know it. I'm not a Nolan fan.

[Bespin 8,484]

I prefer Mangold's movies over Nolan's ones. Mangold's scores are selling like hotcakes.

[ciarlese 251]

Is it possible that they had to suddenly stop any pre-orders and distribution plans due to some issues regarding legal and rights? Maybe someone noticed something wrong in one of the contracts so they had to put everything on hold while they look for a solution? That would explain why the "limited edition" was never mentioned, as well as the fact that the CD was a Disney Emporium exclusive 🤔

[DangerMotif 1,038]

The real answer is that Disney just doesn’t care and nothing will change that

[jamesluckard 80]

1 hour ago, ciarlese said:

Is it possible that they had to suddenly stop any pre-orders and distribution plans due to some issues regarding legal and rights? Maybe someone noticed something wrong in one of the contracts so they had to put everything on hold while they look for a solution? That would explain why the "limited edition" was never mentioned, as well as the fact that the CD was a Disney Emporium exclusive 🤔

Highly unlikely.

 

Any suddenly appearing legal issue with the album itself that would have prevented them from releasing the CD more widely would also have prevented them from fulfilling preorders.

[ajc384 144]

7 hours ago, ciarlese said:

Is it possible that they had to suddenly stop any pre-orders and distribution plans due to some issues regarding legal and rights? Maybe someone noticed something wrong in one of the contracts so they had to put everything on hold while they look for a solution? That would explain why the "limited edition" was never mentioned, as well as the fact that the CD was a Disney Emporium exclusive 🤔

Wishful thinking, I fear.  Any contractual or licensing problems would have affected the LP set too which they're still taking pre-orders for.

[DrTenma 116]

No... I assumed it would be sold in Amazon and other places as a regular CD. This was the first time I read this was a limited run CD, which doesn't even makes sense.

[filmmusic 1,838]

I was wondering, is this the first time an ost (I mean not an expansion) is limited?

[Jay 37,372]

No. 

 

Some that come to mind are John Carter and Tomorrowland. Which I just realized were also Disney Records. 

 

And again, the album itself is not limited. It's available in every store that sells and streams digital music, which is how 99.9% of people on earth listen to music in 2023. It's only one physical media option that was a limited run. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

I'm waiting for the cassette. 

[JTN 2,038]

15 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

I'm waiting for the cassette. 

What do you have against vinyl?

[BB-8 3,481]

Vinyl scratches.

 

I can take cassesttes with me in my Walkman.

[filmmusic 1,838]

35 minutes ago, Jay said:

And again, the album itself is not limited. It's available in every store that sells and streams digital music, which is how 99.9% of people on earth listen to music in 2023. It's only one physical media option that was a limited run. 

Yes, of course. I meant the cd.

[JTN 2,038]

43 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

I'm waiting for the cassette. 

No wonder, the music is in Dolby System. 

[ciarlese 251]

57 minutes ago, Jay said:

Is available in every store that sells and streams digital music, which is how 99.9% of people on earth listen to music in 2023.

 

It would be interesting to know any source at that statistic, as I am not sure it's so accurate.

[Jay 37,372]

I obviously made up the number, but the point is valid. 

 

Disney Records did not fail at making the album available to consumers in any stretch of the imagination. 

 

They only failed at making the CD version available and did not communicate clearly that it was a limited edition option from the start. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

1 hour ago, JTW said:

What do you have against vinyl?

 

The sound quality. 

[BB-8 3,481]

Ah, Cassettes!

 

[Brónach 1,302]

i like the casette aesthetic and the floppy disk.

[JTN 2,038]

I feel like we’re back in the 90s where I had to go to Germany to get a soundtrack CD in a music store. Or to New York at the Virgin Megastore. There were only a handful of stores in Hungary where they sold soundtrack CDs. I got my first three CDs at a small underground store (literally below street level) in Budapest in 1994 .

[rough cut 1,714]

We could just buy it on Amazon music, where it's available in MP3-quality.

 

To clarify: only MP3-quality.

 

[BB-8 3,481]

7 minutes ago, rough cut said:

We could just buy it on Amazon music, where it's available in MP3-quality.

 

To clarify: only MP#-quality.

 

But the sound quality is bad: the dynamic range within loud tacks is limited, while quiet tracks are amplified and sound disproportionally loud.

[King Mark 3,631]

3 hours ago, BB-8 said:

Vinyl scratches.

 

I can take cassesttes with me in my Walkman.

I hate cassettes with a passion, the sound warbles after a few plays or the tape tangles and become unusable. Minidisk was a decent format and a godsend before the digital file era.

 

With the film flopping so badly they might not even consider pressing more c.d.'s and this could even hurt the chances of a new Indy Expansion anytime soon as they might not want to invest in this franchise anymore.

[Brónach 1,302]

my dislike of vinyl may be unjustified if the alternative was casettes but in a context of "CDs disappear and vinyl comes back" i'm undoubtedly a bit salty. the CD was my childhood!

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

28 minutes ago, rough cut said:

We could just buy it on Amazon music, where it's available in MP3-quality.

 

To clarify: only MP#-quality.

 

 

On 21/07/2023 at 11:20 PM, Jurassic Shark said:

If that doesn't work, the album is available in CD quality as FLAC files. Then we just need high res scans of the booklet pages and inlay so everybody can make their own CD.

 

https://www.prestomusic.com/classical/products/9507510--indiana-jones-and-the-dial-of-destiny

 

[Bespin 8,484]

Call at 1-800-MODMAGIC with your modem and you'll be able to download a 64 kbps mp3 version of the OST!

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

For those who didn't get the DoD CD album, there's always this.

 

[enderdrag64 624]

2 hours ago, King Mark said:

With the film flopping so badly they might not even consider pressing more c.d.'s and this could even hurt the chances of a new Indy Expansion anytime soon as they might not want to invest in this franchise anymore.

Or, maybe their loss of interest in the franchise will cause them to remove it's WDR exclusivity and open it up to Intrada 

[JTN 2,038]

1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said:

For those who didn't get the DoD CD album, there's always this.

 

If you wink long enough, she might look like Helena. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

33 minutes ago, JTW said:

If you wink long enough, she might look like Helena. 

 

JW would have loved to score Barbie.

[JTN 2,038]

14 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

JW would have loved to score Barbie.

He would have loved to write a theme for Margot  Robbie. 
 

It would have been a really fun score, that would now be available for purchase on CD.

[Bellosh 3,419]

Well my CD arrived.....

 

Cracked case and all.  Simply because this shit company packaged a CD with 1 thin layer (if you can even call it that) of bubble wrap in an envelope.

 

I honestly thought someone mailed me a document instead of a CD when i opened my mailbox

 

Dogshit Emporium. 

[JTN 2,038]

10 minutes ago, Bellosh said:

Well my CD arrived.....

 

Cracked case and all.  Simply because this shit company packaged a CD with 1 thin layer (if you can even call it that) of bubble wrap in an envelope.

 

I honestly thought someone mailed me a document instead of a CD when i opened my mailbox

 

Dogshit Emporium. 

Send it back for a replacement.

[Bellosh 3,419]

i need to edit my post.  they used those shipping envelopes that have the bubble wrap as the liner.

 

lazy.

 

cavemen wore more protection f*cking than this CD got in shipping

[jamesluckard 80]

10 hours ago, Jay said:

No. 

 

Some that come to mind are John Carter and Tomorrowland. Which I just realized were also Disney Records. 

 

And again, the album itself is not limited. It's available in every store that sells and streams digital music, which is how 99.9% of people on earth listen to music in 2023. It's only one physical media option that was a limited run. 

I don't think 99.9% of film score fans listen to music through streaming though. This isn't the latest pop album. Most film scores still get CDs, even new releases. I'd be curious to know what the breakdown is in our community of CD vs digital purchase vs streaming (for albums where the final two options are available).

 

Also, Indy 5 is similar to John Carter and Tomorrowland in another way - they all lost Disney over $100 million. Indy 5 may lose over $200 million. John Carter came close. I wonder if that played into the CDs not getting wider releases.

6 hours ago, King Mark said:

With the film flopping so badly they might not even consider pressing more c.d.'s and this could even hurt the chances of a new Indy Expansion anytime soon as they might not want to invest in this franchise anymore.

 

Highly likely, unfortunately. I wouldn't be shocked if they write off the whole Indiana Jones franchise after this financial catastrophe.

 

Still, pressing more CDs from a master that already exists, and was recently in use, is not that difficult.

 

I still maintain that a request from James Mangold or Frank Marshall (or John Williams himself, if that's possible by some miracle) is our last hope for the few hundred more CDs we need to satisfy the rest of our community.

[Jurassic Shark 12,083]

I've contacted the agent of John Williams the guitarist, just to be on the safe side.