Popular Post aj_vader 534 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 OMG! It's real!!! https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/348366007074046-star-wars-john-williams-original-handwritten-music-manuscript-for-the-opening-star-wars-main-title-theme Loert, ThePenitentMan1, enderdrag64 and 10 others 1 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Lost Folio 183 Posted February 15 Popular Post Share Posted February 15 Whoever wrote that description have no idea what they're talking about... Quote The sheet, which is headed and signed in the upper margin, “Star Wars,” “Reel 1 Part 2, ‘Star Wars,’” and “J. Williams,” is identified as “Reel 18,” with an arrow pointing down to the word “Crawl,” indicating the score as belonging to the film’s signature opening ‘crawl’ sequence [...]. The score is numbered in the upper margin as “19” and “18,” and contains what appears to be a total of 13 different arrangements Loert, enderdrag64, Manakin Skywalker and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,398 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 What cool penmanship! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geom_00 36 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Oh to have the money to buy that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,664 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 Miszka, Edmilson, Trope and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,793 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 How much is a kidney worth on the black market these days? Miszka 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 @Falstaft So, it’s actually R1P2 Starwars! Datameister, Falstaft, michael_grig and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,044 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 This is so cool. Notice that JW does call for "drs", i.e. drums, i.e. snare or field drums, along with the timpani. I always wondered about that, since you pretty much just hear timpani in the ANH recording. There isn't any (audible) snare drum until later recordings. Jay, JWScores, Trope and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 624 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 hours ago, BrotherSound said: @Falstaft So, it’s actually R1P2 Starwars! I believe @CGCJactually discovered this a few months ago, The Galaxy That Britain Built documentary includes a handwritten cue sheet with this title BrotherSound and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 543 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 “[Len] was an ‘analog’ man, saying there is no purer sound, and he refused to go digital, to which John Williams (along with the likes of Jerry Goldsmith) heartily agreed.” Is this the first time we’ve had evidence of JW having an opinion on recording technology? I suppose there was the ‘VU-VU’ anecdote about pushing the recording levels on the brass to get a bit of analogue distortion ‘bite’, wasn’t there? Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 14 hours ago, QuartalHarmony said: Is this the first time we’ve had evidence of JW having an opinion on recording technology? I suppose there was the ‘VU-VU’ anecdote about pushing the recording levels on the brass to get a bit of analogue distortion ‘bite’, wasn’t there? Where did he say this? Quote Len built his home in the Bel Air hills in the 1960s and turned it into a state-of-the-art music studio complete with recording, re-recording, and mixing abilities. I wonder what exactly is meant by re-recording ability here. Playing the music through loudspeakers and recording the output in order to add room acoustics? On 15/02/2024 at 4:37 PM, aj_vader said: OMG! It's real!!! https://www.rrauction.com/auctions/lot-detail/348366007074046-star-wars-john-williams-original-handwritten-music-manuscript-for-the-opening-star-wars-main-title-theme I wonder how much Doug Adams will pay for this... to go with his Star Wars pencil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 543 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Where did he say this? Related by Eric Tomlinson in conversation with Chris Malone. See page 11: https://www.malonedigital.com/starwars.pdf Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crlbrg 381 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 High resolution grabs from the website Cerebral Cortex and enderdrag64 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Thank God it was written out to Len Engel(?) and not some random nobody, which would actually decrease the value. That_Bloke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,515 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 It should've been written out to me. On a more serious note, does a recording of the initial run-up exist anywhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,479 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 This really has to go into a museum. George Lucas or John Williams himself should claim it and donate it to some hallowed institution or trust. Trope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 744 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 16/02/2024 at 4:45 AM, Loert said: On a more serious note, does a recording of the initial run-up exist anywhere? The complete recording sessions of the Main Title were a hidden bonus track on the 2-Disc '97 Special Edition set. @phbart managed to piece together the correct take portions used to make the Film Version; later, I combined the best leftover bits that weren't used in the Film Version (including the original run-up, recorded on Takes 16 through 18) into two tracks for fanedits and playlists: phbart and Loert 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,398 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 9 minutes ago, BB-8 said: This really has to go into a museum. George Lucas or John Williams himself should claim it and donate it to some hallowed institution or trust. If this is true then I'm sure The Maestro has some odds and ends at his house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 11 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said: How much is a kidney worth on the black market these days? Actually, Len's kidney's also coming up for sale. Mr. Hooper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,479 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 32 minutes ago, Tallguy said: If this is true then I'm sure The Maestro has some odds and ends at his house. A Bleistift, ja ja. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 Some cookies. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,479 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 22 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Some old cookies. 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: Some old German cookies. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post CGCJ 394 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 8 hours ago, enderdrag64 said: I believe @CGCJactually discovered this a few months ago, The Galaxy That Britain Built documentary includes a handwritten cue sheet with this title Thanks to @enderdrag64 for this composite. Falstaft, JWScores, Trope and 6 others 3 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Trope 527 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 "Desert Song"?! So The Dune Sea of Tatooine was originally a song? I'm assuming George Lucas' plan was for the argument between C-3PO and R2-D2 to be a musical number. Edmilson, Gabriel Bezerra, enderdrag64 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 1,793 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 13 minutes ago, Trope said: "Desert Song"?! Finally! Vindication for all of us who refer to movie music as "songs"! 👍 Edmilson, Manakin Skywalker, Tallguy and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,369 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 "us"? YOU do this!? enderdrag64, Manakin Skywalker, Trope and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,793 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 7 minutes ago, Jay said: "us"? YOU do this!? Yup. And my favourite song is the Imperial March. I love when John plays that song at concerts. 😄 enderdrag64, Jay, Thor and 1 other 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,355 Posted February 16 Popular Post Share Posted February 16 30 minutes ago, Mr. Hooper said: Yup. And my favourite song is the Imperial March. I love when John plays that song at concerts. 😄 I love the lyrics too! They speak to me! "Laa laa laa la la-laaaa" crlbrg, Trope, Brando and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,793 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 22 minutes ago, Faleel said: I love the lyrics too! They speak to me! "Laa laa laa la la-laaaa" And no one could sing the Star Wars Main Title song like Bill Murray! Arnaud2 and bruce marshall 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted February 17 Popular Post Share Posted February 17 4 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said: Yup. And my favourite song is the Imperial March. I love when John plays that song at concerts. 😄 aj_vader, Trope, Gabriel Bezerra and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mr. Hooper 1,793 Posted February 17 Popular Post Share Posted February 17 5 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said: Finally! Vindication for all of us who refer to movie music as "songs"! 👍 5 hours ago, Mr. Hooper said: Yup. And my favourite song is the Imperial March. I love when John plays that song at concerts. 😄 enderdrag64, Tallguy, aj_vader and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,479 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 "...the dots on the paper...they are worth nothing." - John Williams - Brando and aj_vader 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 9 hours ago, Trope said: I'm assuming George Lucas' plan was for the argument between C-3PO and R2-D2 to be a musical number. I'm sure @Chen G. can confirm this from an early draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JWScores 27 Posted February 17 Popular Post Share Posted February 17 9 hours ago, Trope said: "Desert Song"?! So The Dune Sea of Tatooine was originally a song? I'm assuming George Lucas' plan was for the argument between C-3PO and R2-D2 to be a musical number. Yeah, this was the first idea, before revisions: Mr. Hooper, Brando, Fabulin and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post QuartalHarmony 543 Posted February 17 Popular Post Share Posted February 17 10 hours ago, Trope said: George Lucas' plan was for the argument between C-3PO and R2-D2 to be a musical number. For the love of all that’s good and holy, NO-ONE tell Mattris this. We’ll never hear the end of it. In italics. Datameister, Jurassic Shark, Trope and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePenitentMan1 744 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 3 hours ago, BB-8 said: "...the dots on the paper...they are worth nothing." - John Williams - BB-8 and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hooper 1,793 Posted February 17 Share Posted February 17 9 hours ago, BB-8 said: "...the dots on the paper...they are worth nothing." - John Williams - I happen to own an orchestra, so the dots are worth something to me. Please forward all original music sheets with dots on them to my address... BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 18 Share Posted February 18 On 16/02/2024 at 12:08 AM, Jurassic Shark said: Where did he say this? I wonder what exactly is meant by re- recording Re- recording is the final mixing of music, dialog and sound effects for a motion picture soundtrack Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,398 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 On 17/02/2024 at 4:04 AM, QuartalHarmony said: For the love of all that’s good and holy, NO-ONE tell Mattris this. We’ll never hear the end of it. In italics. He already knows. And he's surprised you don't. QuartalHarmony and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,479 Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 How can we be sure this isn't largely Herb Spencer's hand writing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jilal 569 Posted February 19 Popular Post Share Posted February 19 2 hours ago, BB-8 said: How can we be sure this isn't largely Herb Spencer's hand writing? Because we know exactly what JW's and Herb Spencer's handwriting looks like, and also because this is a sketch score, not a fully orchestrated score which Spencer would have produced based on the sketch score. Jay, BB-8 and enderdrag64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,479 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 Picking up the next... ...rush to the auction house Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jilal 569 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 On 16/02/2024 at 5:42 AM, Datameister said: This is so cool. Notice that JW does call for "drs", i.e. drums, i.e. snare or field drums, along with the timpani. I always wondered about that, since you pretty much just hear timpani in the ANH recording. There isn't any (audible) snare drum until later recordings. I think you can hear the snare(s) in the center channel of the Atmos mix. (It sounded like a single snare drum to me, but I could be wrong of course.) They sound noticeably duller (more tom-like) than they do in other cues. And yes, so cool to finally have a peak at this sketch! Really makes me wish the entire sketch score were available for study. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 It ended up selling for $49,290. Brando, enderdrag64 and Loert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Wow, when it was $10,000 I was half-heartedly thinking of selling some investments to buy it as an investment. I certainly had a feeling it could be worth more than $10k. It'll be interesting to see if this comes up for auction again in a few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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