A. A. Ron 1,414 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 The mastering is a little loud on that one, but it’s such a good score. Presto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, A. A. Ron said: The mastering is a little loud on that one, but it’s such a good score. That's what the ReLife plugin is for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 13,908 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 5 hours ago, A. A. Ron said: The mastering is a little loud on that one, but it’s such a good score. This is my biggest complaint about that release, it's just way too loud and uncomfortable to listen to. Which is such a shame, because the music is so great! But the mastering ruins the listenability of the music, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,414 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 For a while I had a custom edit of Galaxy Quest that used the composer promo where possible and the LLL to fill in the gaps. I think I ultimately decided the listening experience was too uneven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 1 hour ago, A. A. Ron said: For a while I had a custom edit of Galaxy Quest that used the composer promo where possible and the LLL to fill in the gaps. I think I ultimately decided the listening experience was too uneven. 13 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said: That's what the ReLife plugin is for! https://plugins4free.com/plugin/1732/ Seriously, it really helps to take the edge off the listening fatigue of compressed tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,397 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 How does it know which parts of make quieter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 10 minutes ago, Jay said: How does it know which parts of make quieter? I don't entirely know how it works, but I am guessing it takes the loud compressed parts and attempts to restore those, which ends up pushing the quiet parts "down" along with them in the process? All I can definitely say is that it makes compressed music way, way less headache inducing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,689 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 56 minutes ago, Clockwork Angel said: I don't entirely know how it works, but I am guessing it takes the loud compressed parts and attempts to restore those, which ends up pushing the quiet parts "down" along with them in the process? All I can definitely say is that it makes compressed music way, way less headache inducing. What settings did you use exactly? I tried playing around with it last night and the waveform was still brickwalled. Turning up the "Shape" knob just added some weird distortion in the louder parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 2 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: What settings did you use exactly? Just "peaks: 3" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,689 Posted February 22 Share Posted February 22 22 minutes ago, Clockwork Angel said: Just "peaks: 3" Hm interesting, it's only giving me a few knobs and that's not one of them. 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 45 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Hm interesting, it's only giving me a few knobs and that's not one of them. 🤔 Wrong ReLife. That ReLife is by Analog Obsession, The ReLife I am talking about is by Terry West Productions: https://www.terrywest.nl/x64.html https://plugins4free.com/plugin/1732/ crumbs and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,414 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 4 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said: https://plugins4free.com/plugin/1732/ Seriously, it really helps to take the edge off the listening fatigue of compressed tracks. Well it‘s a nice idea, but I have a mac and this tool is apparently PC only. Presto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,689 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, Clockwork Angel said: Wrong ReLife. That ReLife is by Analog Obsession, The ReLife I am talking about is by Terry West Productions: https://www.terrywest.nl/x64.html https://plugins4free.com/plugin/1732/ Bellosh and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 522 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 hours ago, Jay said: How does it know which parts of make quieter? 5 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said: I don't entirely know how it works, but I am guessing it takes the loud compressed parts and attempts to restore those, which ends up pushing the quiet parts "down" along with them in the process? All I can definitely say is that it makes compressed music way, way less headache inducing. That is something I've thought about before - I wonder if it's possible, for scores where lossy sources exist but without dynamic range compression (for example lossy leaks, or videogames files) - if it would be possible to use the dynamic range data from the lossy source and apply it to the lossless one. Would you be able to accurately unbrickwall the lossless cue? Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,397 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Woah, that's an interesting thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,689 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 hour ago, enderdrag64 said: That is something I've thought about before - I wonder if it's possible, for scores where lossy sources exist but without dynamic range compression (for example lossy leaks, or videogames files) - if it would be possible to use the dynamic range data from the lossy source and apply it to the lossless one. Would you be able to accurately unbrickwall the lossless cue? I've attempted something similar before. Hypothetically it's possible, but you'd have to make sure the sources sync up 100% or you'll still get phasing. The spectrogram might look a little goofy too. You can actually also use this method and invert to hear the distortion that the brickwalling causes. distortion.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTWfan77 1,673 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 9 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said: I don't entirely know how it works, but I am guessing it takes the loud compressed parts and attempts to restore those, which ends up pushing the quiet parts "down" along with them in the process? All I can definitely say is that it makes compressed music way, way less headache inducing. Does it help for brickwalling too? EDIT: nevermind, I read further. How about correcting the volume dips on those film stem cues on LLL's hook? Does this plugin play nice with Audacity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 610 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 On 30/01/2023 at 6:46 PM, Bryant Burnette said: La-La Land is struggling recently. That big batch of Trek I ordered, they crammed them all into a box that was too small, and the result of that was three cases with busted teeth on multiple trays. The bunch of Friday the 13ths I got today, they sent me Part 1 instead of Part 2. Sheesh. I finally got the replacement Friday Part 2... I don't even know how a case gets warped like that. The disc plays fine, though, and I just used the case from the F13 Part 1 (which they let me keep). Still ... yikes. Andy, Smeltington, crumbs and 3 others 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,699 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 It seems packages go through hell before arriving home. Talk about a detour…. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,153 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Looks like they're inspired by Amazon's lousy packaging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: Does it help for brickwalling too? EDIT: nevermind, I read further. How about correcting the volume dips on those film stem cues on LLL's hook? Does this plugin play nice with Audacity? It did the last I checked, that's how I usually used it, though with all of Audacity's recent updates it's hard to be sure. JTWfan77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 610 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 8 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: It seems packages go through hell before arriving home. Talk about a detour…. Oh, this had nothing to do with shipping. It was wrapped heavily in bubble wrap alongside three empty quadruple-disc cases they sent me as replacements for poorly-packaged ones that got damaged in a previous shipment. Those were all fine. I don't think this one could possibly have been damaged during shipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderdrag64 522 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 17 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I've attempted something similar before. Hypothetically it's possible, but you'd have to make sure the sources sync up 100% or you'll still get phasing. The spectrogram might look a little goofy too. You can actually also use this method and invert to hear the distortion that the brickwalling causes. distortion.mp3 97.14 kB · 241 downloads In your previous attempts did you use the same plugin mentioned above or something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said: I don't think this one could possibly have been damaged during shipment. Unless it got repackaged on its way to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,689 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 39 minutes ago, enderdrag64 said: In your previous attempts did you use the same plugin mentioned above or something else No plugins, just manual spectral editing in Audacity. 4 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said: It did the last I checked, that's how I usually used it, though with all of Audacity's recent updates it's hard to be sure. I still use the last version of Audacity before Muse acquired it and didn't have any luck getting the free 32-bit version to work (in any of my DAWs actually). Maybe the paid 64-bit version works, but I'm not paying $20 just to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 3 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: No plugins, just manual spectral editing in Audacity. I still use the last version of Audacity before Muse acquired it and didn't have any luck getting the free 32-bit version to work (in any of my DAWs actually). Maybe the paid 64-bit version works, but I'm not paying $20 just to find out. Did you put it in the right folder? I remember I put it in several different folders (including both 32 and 64 versions of Program Files) till I found the right one (or I ended up pirating a later version.....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,689 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 6 minutes ago, Clockwork Angel said: Did you put it in the right folder? I remember I put it in several different folders (including both 32 and 64 versions of Program Files) till I found the right one (or I ended up pirating a later version.....) I put it into two of the default VST folders, guess I'll try all of them and see what happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I put it into two of the default VST folders, guess I'll try all of them and see what happens! Don't forget Audacity's Plug-in folders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,689 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, Clockwork Angel said: Don't forget Audacity's Plug-in folders! Oh my, it works so much better than Audacity's built-in Clip Fix tool! It's somehow able to detect the parts that should be louder, such as cymbal hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,397 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I'm unfamiliar with all this ReLife stuff Can somebody post a nice before and after example? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,689 Posted February 23 Popular Post Share Posted February 23 Haven't done much experimenting with it yet, but here's a quick example using a very compressed cue from Bad Batch... Before: before.mp3 After: after.mp3 A. A. Ron, Andy, Trope and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryant Burnette 610 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 10 hours ago, Clockwork Angel said: Unless it got repackaged on its way to you. It's a theoretical possibility, I guess, but the package showed no signs of tampering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,135 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 I’ve been priming up for ordering whatever gets announced in April but all these shipping concerns have me worried about ordering directly from the LLL website again. I hate that I have to consider ordering from other websites like Intrada in order to get better service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,346 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Perhaps a good time to pick some LLL titles: MARCH MADNESS IN LA-LA LAND!!! Take 25% OFF YOUR ENTIRE ORDER of ALL IN-STOCK soundtrack titles! (Discount will be applied at checkout - special applies to in-stock titles only.) Special Offer is good now thru 3/16 BACK IN STOCK! SUPERMAN THE MOVIE (3-CD SET) and SUPERMAN 2&3 (3-CD SET) are flying back in stock FOR THE LAST TIME! When these are gone, they are gone!!! (NOTE: Orders containing SUPERMAN THE MOVIE and SUPERMAN 2&3 will start shipping after 3/10) ALSO BACK IN STOCK! FIELD OF DREAMS (2-CD SET) and LESS THAN ZERO have returned! Get these now as part of this site-wide special! BACK IN STOCK! SUPERMAN THE MOVIE (3-CD SET - LAST BATCH!!!) , SUPERMAN 2&3 (3-CD SET - LAST BATCH), FIELD OF DREAMS (2-CD SET), LESS THAN ZERO, BRAM STOKER’S DRACULA (3-CD SET), FRIDAY THE 13th PART 8, WONDER WOMAN TV SERIES (3-CD SET – FINAL BATCH) and BUFFY THE VAMPIRE SLAYER COLLECTION (4-CD SET) Trope and Jay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 261 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 I nearly completed my wishlist! Ordered Superman, Field of Dreams and Less Than Zero! Been waiting for these to come back in stock for a while. bruce marshall and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 35,397 Posted March 2 Popular Post Share Posted March 2 Less than a month to the next monthly flyer! Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Brando and Manakin Skywalker 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 7,538 Posted March 2 Popular Post Share Posted March 2 2 hours ago, Jay said: Less than a month to the next monthly flyer! I know they're on a break and that's why your statement makes sense, but it still sounds tautologically like "less than an hour until the next full hour". ThePenitentMan1, Manakin Skywalker, Brando and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presto 4,754 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 Jay would say the same thing even if they were not on break Brando and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,007 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Im going to pick up the Goldsmith At Fox albums Vol 2 & 5! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,198 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Are those the only ones you’re missing? Vol. V has some particularly significant expansions, plus a couple delightful premieres! Yavar Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,239 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Feels like their hiatus has gone very quickly, but then I've been temporarily distracted by Varese's Time Machine. I'm easily pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,007 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 2 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Are those the only ones you’re missing? Vol. V has some particularly significant expansions, plus a couple delightful premieres! Yavar I figured these are the ones I need to start with and hopefully go onto the others but I'm not going to dip for THE BLUE MAX again that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,198 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 6 hours ago, Amer said: I figured these are the ones I need to start with and hopefully go onto the others but I'm not going to dip for THE BLUE MAX again that's for sure! Oh. III and IV were much more significant to get than II, which only added a single short cue to The Flim-Flam Man compared to the FSM release (if you got that, which I figure you did). We did Soundtrack Spotlights on those last three for a reason! Vol. III had the CD premiere of Goldsmith’s first work for Fox, the great finale cue “Pacer’s Farewell” from the Elvis western Flaming Star (1960), plus a *substantial* expansion of SPYS: https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/8553668-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-goldsmith-at-20th-vol-iii-flaming-star-1960-the-stripper-1963-s-p-y-s-1974 Vol. IV had the most significant restoration, with Chris Malone’s astounding work on Ace Eli and Rodger of the Skies, turning it from something I never wanted to listen to, into something I really enjoyed listening to... just check out the before/after comparisons in this podcast which I think are some of the most dramatic improvements on an FSM release ever (maybe even moreso than the new Mattesino master of Rio Conchos). https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/9378792-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-goldsmith-at-20th-vol-iv-ace-eli-and-rodger-of-the-skies-1973-tora-tora-tora-1970 Yavar bruce marshall and Amer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 371 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 Wish that I jumped on Die Hard when it was on sale for $20 (unless I'm misremembering and it was never that low) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,153 Posted March 3 Share Posted March 3 8 hours ago, Amer said: I figured these are the ones I need to start with and hopefully go onto the others but I'm not going to dip for THE BLUE MAX again that's for sure! It's not worth it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,007 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 14 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: Oh. III and IV were much more significant to get than II, which only added a single short cue to The Flim-Flam Man compared to the FSM release (if you got that, which I figure you did). We did Soundtrack Spotlights on those last three for a reason! Vol. III had the CD premiere of Goldsmith’s first work for Fox, the great finale cue “Pacer’s Farewell” from the Elvis western Flaming Star (1960), plus a *substantial* expansion of SPYS: https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/8553668-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-goldsmith-at-20th-vol-iii-flaming-star-1960-the-stripper-1963-s-p-y-s-1974 Vol. IV had the most significant restoration, with Chris Malone’s astounding work on Ace Eli and Rodger of the Skies, turning it from something I never wanted to listen to, into something I really enjoyed listening to... just check out the before/after comparisons in this podcast which I think are some of the most dramatic improvements on an FSM release ever (maybe even moreso than the new Mattesino master of Rio Conchos). https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/9378792-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-goldsmith-at-20th-vol-iv-ace-eli-and-rodger-of-the-skies-1973-tora-tora-tora-1970 Yavar I didnt have Flim Flam Man which was on my list. Ofcourse I will get tho the rest eventually and yes I did hear the those episodes on the series! Honestly with my own currency slidding down so hard against the USD I cant offord to get all those titles in this sale soJust 2 volumes for now!!! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,198 Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I just assumed you had Flim-Flam as one of the original FSMers! If you didn’t have it you made the right call on LLL’s Vol. II. Yavar Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 35,397 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 On 02/03/2023 at 5:44 PM, Marian Schedenig said: I know they're on a break and that's why your statement makes sense, but it still sounds tautologically like "less than an hour until the next full hour". I forgot to post on March 1 that we were a month away from April's flyer, so I posted on March 2nd. Sorry you didn't like my grammar when I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 7,538 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 1 hour ago, Jay said: Sorry you didn't like my grammar when I did. Oh come one, you tend to take these comments way too seriously. I even added a sort of disclaimer to show that it's in no way meant as criticism. I just find odd typos, or sentences that make no sense out of context funny, like announcing that the next monthly flyer is less than a month away, when really monthly flyers (which they're not) would never be more than a month away. I find this stuff amusing, and I'd point it out and laugh about just as much if I'd posted it myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 11,153 Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 Well, Jay's the worst offender when it comes to pointing out typos. Grammar is your turf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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