Popular Post BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 7, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 7, 2015 DarthDementous, Bilbo and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnald 365 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 You've seen it as well then! What did you make of Lobot's big death scene? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/12/07/new-force-awakens-promos-feature-rey-maz-kanata-and-nien-nunb/Maz Kanata looks like Gune from Titan A.E. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Any new Williams music in those clips? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Yes, of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 9, 2015 Share Posted December 9, 2015 I forgot to post this the other day:Star Wars: Harrison Ford talks about how nostalgia doesn't affect him - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-35019426 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Chinese Trailer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarpia 132 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Lots of new footage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Chinese Trailer The Falcon crashes like the saucer section of the Enterprise in Star Trek Generations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 "All hands, brace for impact!"Actually, it's more like Voyager:That trailer's got your first official fan service line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,298 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 What do you mean?I thought "Chewie we're home" was the first fan service line, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 You're right. I was wrong. Let's move past this. mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted December 10, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 10, 2015 Come on baby, don't let me down!Love the delivery on that one. And also probably means JW had a hand on the script. Cerebral Cortex, Scarpia and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 It's a much better delivery than anything else we've heard. I was getting worried because each new Han line we were getting his voice sounded really weak and shitty, like in Crystal Skull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'm not watching Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I wish we had a cameo by William Shatner as an Imperial officer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Wow, some really fantastic new shots!God, though, I really hate Adam Driver! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'm tempted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 It doesn't spoil the plot, it's just a bunch of cool stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 yeah, but if you watch too many cool shots it adds upI felt my limit was reached after the first few TV spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Everything adds up, but fifteen minutes of clips do not add up to a two hour movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I'm guessing Williams' music in that trailer was from the initial scoring sessions last November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I caved in and watched it...I've seen too much nowit does look cool though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 It doesn't spoil the plot, it's just a bunch of cool stuffThat's what happened with Superman Returns. There were fuck all surprises left by the time the movie came out, literally all the 'cool' stuff was in the trailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 George Lucas has seen the movie and think fans (KM, et cetera) will love it. He didn't say what he personally thought of it.Or was this posted already?http://www.vulture.com/2015/12/george-lucas-delivers-a-verdict-on-force-awakens.html# Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 He was clearly distraught by the lack of CGI and gungans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,348 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 They bypassed his ideas so ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 George Lucas Gives His Approval to Star Wars The Force Awakens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Not a good sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Saying "it's the kind of movie the fans have wanted" is actually a terrifying thing to say. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,358 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Especially when Lucas is the one who is saying it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Not really. Methinks Lucas is being sarcastic and even dismissive - in that he considers Force Awakens to be "fine" and competent at playing it safe, made to order; as opposed to his PT which I'm sure he sincerely believes were "bold", "risky" and "misunderstood". There's absolutely no chance in hell Lucas wants this movie to be spectacularly well received by the fans. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,643 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think "safe" will be the key word with this movie. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think we'd all rather have safe than "shit". Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Why keep everything under wraps if it's just going to be the same old stuff? Oh... DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 There's absolutely no chance in hell Lucas wants this movie to be spectacularly well received by the fans.Since we're grasping at straws anyway, let me give you another option. Just for the sake of it.Lucas sold his company for shitloads of money. He knew those new films will get made and he gave it all away willingly so that fans get what they want and he can do something better with his life. And he's doing just that: large amounts of his money are being spent philanthropic activities - education and other stuff like that. The way I see it, he's done more good because of his big move. And it's a class act. So I wouldn't see him as a loser in this situation. Disney will keep milking it, the same way Lucas' company did before them. We might love them, for a while at least. But it's the same exact situation, only it's now owned by a much bigger company. In a way, Lucas is doing much better stuff now (not to mention more rewarding) than Disney will ever be able to with his former property. So I see absolutely no reason for him to be bitter at all. And I don't think he cares, no matter how much media want us to believe that he does.Karol Bilbo and SafeUnderHill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,673 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Lucas has given more interviews in the last couple of weeks than in the previous years. He clearly cares and he is clearly dissatisfied that this film is being implicitly marketed as the anti-prequel. also, just last week he again referred to ESB as the worst of the SW movies (you know, the one he was least involved with). The man has issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,643 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Lucas should be locked away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted December 10, 2015 Author Share Posted December 10, 2015 Lucas has given more interviews in the last couple of weeks than in the previous years. He clearly cares and he is clearly dissatisfied that this film is being implicitly marketed as the anti-prequel. also, just last week he again referred to ESB as the worst of the SW movies (you know, the one he was least involved with). The man has issues.Rubbish. If he really thought that, he would have tinkered with it more. And, as we all know, that wasn't the case. He just says rubbish... because he can. Since media already made him into a monster on the scale of Pol Pot, he might as well go with it. Even as a joke.Again, I think he doesn't give a shit.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 I think Lucas gets too much shit from the SW crowd. I mean the guy is clearly ready to move on, and seems to be trying to do so. But the hate will always follow him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,298 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Lucas has given more interviews in the last couple of weeks than in the previous years. He clearly cares and he is clearly dissatisfied that this film is being implicitly marketed as the anti-prequel. also, just last week he again referred to ESB as the worst of the SW movies (you know, the one he was least involved with). The man has issues.Rubbish. If he really thought that, he would have tinkered with it more. And, as we all know, that wasn't the case. He just says rubbish... because he can. Since media already made him into a monster on the scale of Pol Pot, he might as well go with it. Even as a joke.Again, I think he doesn't give a shit.KaroI think the prequel hate does bother him. It must, he does comment on it a lot and really, why wouldn't it? Those are three movies he put a lot into and tons of people pretty vocally think they're all terrible, plus the shit that people throw around about him can get pretty obscene. But for every random comment on the prequels he might happen to see online or wherever, I'm sure he gets plenty of people who tell him personally that their favorite character is Jar Jar or their favorite part was Yoda jumping around with his lightsaber. Especially little kids, so when you really put it in perspective and not just as like a condescending joke, that's probably gratifying and makes the criticism easy to forget. Much as I don't like those films, on a personal level I still hope he's able to ignore it. And I would hope he is in fact hoping for The Force Awakens to succeed. He should be able to swallow his pride, it's his legacy after all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 At least George Lucas isn't telling us all to become vegetarians in addition to making bad movies, like James Cameron. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,643 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 At least George Lucas isn't telling us all to become vegetarians in addition to making bad movies, like James Cameron.Avatar is far better than anything Lucas has done in the past 15 years or so. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 At least George Lucas isn't telling us all to become vegetarians in addition to making bad movies, like James Cameron.Avatar is far better than anything Lucas has done in the past 15 years or so.Ha! Funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Avatar is technically better, but I find myself more able to watch the prequels, where despite (or maybe because) the terribly written characters, I don't want the whole cast to die and disappear. The second time I saw Avatar I was like ugh I don't like anybody in this movie. And the plot is so mundane that even if executed "correctly" it ends up automatically among the nonsensical-but-they-tried stories in the prequels, because zzz. It does have (obviously) a much more effective direction and better special effects, even if I don't understand why the entire jungle has to be CGI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted December 10, 2015 Share Posted December 10, 2015 Avatar is made for pretentious vegans trying to reduce their carbon footprint and shame the rest of the Earth's population like James Cameron. Matt C 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,298 Posted December 11, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted December 11, 2015 More from Abrams on watching Ford/Kurosawa/Malick to prepare for Force Awakens.Instead of just watching Star Wars movies for this, I also went back and watched some of my favorite films. Obviously Seven Samurai, some of the John Ford films, because I knew those were also influences that George had.The fact is watching any inspiring storyteller or filmmaker, watching Terrence Malick movies, who is not a director you would normally think to go to for a Star Wars movie...and yet I don't know of a more profound and emotional filmmaker than Malick. Those kinds of things were always just sort of inspiration. It sounds very pretentious to say "Oh I'm inspired by this person, that person." It's more about seeing things that you can aspire to and where appropriate apply lessons that you're learning from them. There were many scenes where I might have typically wanted to rush the camera around or cut more frequently, but in trying to grow a little bit and in trying to tell the most powerful story possible, you learn lessons in restraint, you learn lessons in stillness, you learn lessons in confidence and trust in your characters and the audience. So I found myself working to not just keep things moving as fast as I possibly could, which sometimes has been my default, but rather to keep things as still as I possibly could and let things breathe as a balance to the action - of which there is much - in the movie.I'm enjoying his self-awareness. There was another anecdote somewhere where he talked about Kasdan sometimes catching him during writing playing down to the audience, over-explaining something that could be inferred another way. Seems like he really is giving this thing his best shot. I'm not expecting him to suddenly become this brilliant virtuoso, but I would like to see this movie find a nice balance away from the nervous, hyperactive energy of his other movies. A more cool, confident sense of style and pacing would be great. I think Williams can affect some of that too. Cerebral Cortex, Taikomochi and Jay 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,378 Posted December 11, 2015 Share Posted December 11, 2015 Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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