Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 5 hours ago, KK said: Some pretty visuals aside, the whole things look at redundant as ever. Why try and compete with the original beautiful sequence? It'll inevitably fall short. They don't care about that, they just know 90's nostalgia junkies are going to pay money to see this for the sake of it. And I bet a dollar they'll have an even gayer Timon and Pumbaa in this one just to win over that demographic and be paraded as being progressive on clickbait articles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SF1_freeze 131 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Trailer looks good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I don't get it... it just seems like a shot for shot remake but in bad CGI. What's the point? Money I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Nostalgia is a powerful and lucrative thing these days. We need Bill Mahrer to condemn this movie because of all the people who haven't grown up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Jon Oliver as Zazu over Rowan Atkinson? Visually riveting, albeit unwanted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 It has Beyonce in it so an automatic pass. The superior original will more than suffice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Sounds like they just took James Earl Jones’ dialogue from the first film and re-used it. His voice sounds much much younger than it did in Rogue One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 11 hours ago, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: They don't care about that, they just know 90's nostalgia junkies are going to pay money to see this for the sake of it. And I bet a dollar they'll have an even gayer Timon and Pumbaa in this one just to win over that demographic and be paraded as being progressive on clickbait articles! 1 hour ago, Wojism said: Nostalgia is a powerful and lucrative thing these days. We need Bill Mahrer to condemn this movie because of all the people who haven't grown up. Did he do a specific segment on this whole nostalgia generation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 18 hours ago, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: They don't care about that, they just know 90's nostalgia junkies are going to pay money to see this for the sake of it. Is 90's nostalgia a thing now? Who could be nostalgic about the 90's? 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Me, for one. My 20s were in the 90s, and therefore the decade was fucking awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted November 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Saint Nicholas MLXVI said: Is 90's nostalgia a thing now? Who could be nostalgic about the 90's? It's been a thing for a while now, especially since the 2000s and 2010s have been some shitty decades. Fabulin, SteveMc and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted November 24, 2018 Author Share Posted November 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Horner's Dynamic Range said: It's been a thing for a while now, especially since the 2000s and 2010s have been some shitty decades. 2000s Disney... urgh... 🤢 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post Giftheck 917 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/24/2018 at 8:09 PM, Fabulin said: 2000s had Dinosaur, Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, Ratatouille, WALL-E and UP . 2010s on the other hand... feature:Toy Story 3, Wreck It Ralph and... uhh...? 2000s had Chicken Little, the continuing slate of sub-par sequels, and the Disney Channel movies like Hanna Montana and High School Musical. It was a time when they treated kids as morons. Yes, it wasn't all bad. 2010s had Zootopia, Big Hero 6, Frozen (undeniably overhyped but it's still not bad), Inside Out, Coco, The Incredibles 2, Tangled, to name a few. Not for nothing has it been referred to by many as 'the second Disney Rennaisance'. SteveMc, The Illustrious Jerry and John 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John 2,032 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/24/2018 at 2:09 PM, Fabulin said: 2000s had Dinosaur, Atlantis, Treasure Planet, Brother Bear, Ratatouille, WALL-E and UP . Those first four movies are terrible. There is a difference between Disney Animation and Pixar films, which the latter three are. I agree with Gistech that Disney Animation Studios consistently began to put out quality films starting in 2010, after a heck of a slump throughout the 2000s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 I've discovered over the years that MANY people like the Disney movies of the early 90s MUCH more than I do. Then I'm even more bemused to discover that there are people out there who think Disney movies of the later 90s are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurkensalat 340 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 5 minutes ago, John said: Those first four movies are terrible. There is a difference between Disney Animation and Pixar films, which the latter three are. I agree with Gistech that Disney Animation Studios consistently began to put out quality films starting in 2010, after a heck of a slump throughout the 2000s. I like Atlantis a lot. Its more of an adventure film, not typical Disney. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Giftheck 917 Posted November 28, 2018 Author Share Posted November 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Fabulin said: I like your sarcasm. You nearly got me there Because somebody can't have a different opinion, right? 🙄 John 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1977 1,743 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 On 11/24/2018 at 2:38 AM, Horner's Dynamic Range said: ...especially since the 2000s and 2010s have been some shitty decades. Though not if you're into collecting limited edition soundtrack releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share Posted December 1, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 5:03 PM, Fabulin said: Where two people argue, at least one is wrong. A preference can't be wrong. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted December 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2018 Except when someone prefers Junkie XL to John Williams, I'm assuming? Giftheck, Fabulin and SteveMc 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt C 455 Posted December 1, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2018 I saw the trailer... yeah, I'm skipping out on this. And furthermore, you DON'T need the cast cards at the end (touting Beyonce's involvement) -- people will come to see it even if Disney reused the original vocal tracks from 1994. If Disney likes remaking their animated films in live action (or realistic CG), they need to set them apart more and let them stand on their own merits. This and last year's Beauty and the Beast remake is just pointless. The Illustrious Jerry, Pieter Boelen and SteveMc 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 There is no merit for them to stand on. They’re just here for the nostalgia money. leeallen01 and Matt C 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/28/2018 at 3:05 PM, John said: Those first four movies are terrible. There is a difference between Disney Animation and Pixar films, which the latter three are. I like Dinosaur a bit, Treasure Planet quite a bit and Atlantis is probably my favourite Disney animated movie ever (though Mulan gives it a run for its money). But I can understand why people wouldn't like Atlantis, because that movie seems to mostly have been made especially for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 This looks good. It looks like there's quite a bit of key dialogue change going on. Having said that... I'm not sold on Scar's look. I had to do a double-take on the first shot of him to make sure I was looking at Scar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 This is going to make an absolute bank. Looks excellent, too. Mildly interested in Zimmer's update of the score, TBH. The original is a classic score but the synth elements have aged it quite poorly IMO. Hopefully the remake score is a little kinder to the orchestral voices. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Should have gotten David Attenborough to narrate the trailer faux-documentary style. The animals look bad. They appear devoid of all personality, which is bad when they are speaking English from their articulating mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, crumbs said: Mildly interested in Zimmer's update of the score, TBH. The original is a classic score but the synth elements have aged it quite poorly IMO. Hopefully the remake score is a little kinder to the orchestral voices. I'm pretty sure the trailer music is Zimmer. I can hear the old-style percussion instruments in there. Having said that, the 1994 score suffered because Jay Rifkin thought it a good idea to mix in parts of Zimmer's synth demoes. That's why I like the Legacy set: it sounds much more natural (clipping issues aside). I'd expect this to be more percussion-heavy as per his more recent scores, but I'm hoping it doesn't down out the melodic parts. That use of Simba's theme in the trailer was bloody epic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 13 minutes ago, W0$ said: The animals look bad. They appear devoid of all personality, which is bad when they are speaking English from their articulating mouths. That's the approach Favreau took with The Jungle Book: to avoid making it feel hightened. The animals largely look as they would look in real life. I've seen Serkis' take, and the attempt to give the animals a human resemblence looks really wierd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 8 minutes ago, Gistech said: That's why I like the Legacy set: it sounds much more natural (clipping issues aside). Didn't even know the score was finally released properly! Thought only the bootleg existed. When did this happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, crumbs said: Didn't even know the score was finally released properly! Thought only the bootleg existed. When did this happen? Just before its 20th anniversary, 5 years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney_Records_the_Legacy_Collection#The_Lion_King You don't get any alternates in there, though it does contain the correct version of Sunrise at Pride Rock, all of the missing chorus restored, and a selection of demo tracks. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I’ll check out the Z man’s score but I think I’ll just rewatch the original rather than being to see this The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I have a 5-year-old so I will definitely be seeing it. Looks pretty terrible, though. I just can't get behind the more slavish remakes they've gone all-in on. I did see Dumbo the other week, it was alright, nothing great. At least it was doing something different from the original. Not Mr. Big and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Didn't even know the score was finally released properly! Thought only the bootleg existed. When did this happen? http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24545-hans-zimmers-the-lion-king-2cd-legacy-collection Wojo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Scar's voice is bad. Too generic is the right word maybe... Why no Jeremy Irons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 Just now, Fargo said: Scar's voice is bad. Too generic is the right word maybe... Why no Jeremy Irons? I wouldn't say bad, but I'm hoping that the hokey line delivery in places is fixed. The reason Jeremy Irons isn't doing it because he didn't want to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 50 minutes ago, Gistech said: The reason Jeremy Irons isn't doing it because he didn't want to do it. Is that true? Surprising! He absolutely nailed that role. I can understand an actor's reluctance to go over old territory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 That sucks Jeremy Irons didn't want to reprise his role for Scar.... not the same with out him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Can't blame him - he probably didn't want to do another film scored by Hanz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 All the lions are played by black actors. Perhaps they didn't want Scar to be the exception. The only actor that returns is James Earl Jones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 That's racist! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 4 hours ago, crumbs said: Didn't even know the score was finally released properly! Thought only the bootleg existed. It's a great expansion. One of my favourite of the Legacy Collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 20 minutes ago, Romão said: All the lions are played by black actors. Perhaps they didn't want Scar to be the exception. The only actor that returns is James Earl Jones They could have gotten a white South African to voice a lion. Who wouldn't want Dave Matthews to start voice acting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I think the measure at whether a film can be remade and it not feel money-grabbing and pointless, should be that if basically everyone is still alive and able to just come back and play their same characters, direct, write, hell even compose the score, then it shouldn't be remade. For example; people will just ask , "why not bring back Jeremy Irons if you're bringing back James Earl Jones?" But if they brought back everyone involved in the original production, then what's the point of making it other than money? That is why I say a remake, where the original creators are easily capable of returning, is stupid. A remake should also say something very different than the original in terms of the state of society and the overall times we live in. What is this Lion King going to say? "Look what we can do with CGI instead of animation! Now give us your fu**ing money, you gullible idiots." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Is anyone else only interested in these live action remakes just for the revisitations of the scores? For Beauty and the Beast, that was my only good takeaway. Aladdin will probably be the same. Otherwise, I don't like the idea of any of these. 7 hours ago, Gistech said: Having said that... I'm not sold on Scar's look. I had to do a double-take on the first shot of him to make sure I was looking at Scar. Agreed. In the original his mane was black, no? Now he's just another lion. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I can't look past the in-your-face money-grabbing Disney are doing with them. I know that giant corporations are all money-grabbing, but this seems like it's just taking the piss. I haven't seen any of their remakes and wont be. They don't interest me at all. Even Zimmer's score seems pointless. At least get someone new with a different take, or what's the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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