Smaug The Iron 515 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Is this on the OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Smaug the iron said: Is this on the OST? Yes. Reminiscence Therapy Smaug The Iron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I'm just a few tracks in, and I'm loving what I'm hearing by far. Has anyone noticed some kind of action arrangement of one of the Empire motifs from ANH in the track Train Heist at around 3:35? It's a coincidence or is it the real theme? Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I'm listening. I'm crying.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 The new Han themes are very quickly becoming favourites of mine since the return of Star Wars to the big screen. Powell nails their usage in the body of the score. As for comparisons to Rogue One, I'm one of the (seemingly few) that enjoyed Giacchino's score, but it doesn't hold a candle to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 If Giacchino is Dominos Pizza, Powell is Pizza Hutt. Dominos has better drinks, but Pizza Hutt has better everything else. Breadstick Basilisk and mstrox 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just now, Alan said: The new Han themes are very quickly becoming favourites of mine since the return of Star Wars to the big screen. Powell nails their usage in the body of the score. As for comparisons to Rogue One, I'm one of the (seemingly few) that enjoyed Giacchino's score, but it doesn't hold a candle to this. I also liked Giacchino's score, but I don't know if it was the lack of time or that maybe he was trying too hard to sound like Williams, but this ends up being better, because Powell is able to introduce his style, but without leaving the Star Wars sound, and that's what I think Giacchino should have done. (Well, he did that in a few cues, but for most of the score is like he is trying to sound like Williams, not like himself). John and Alan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PrayodiBA 517 Posted May 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just finished the whole album. Wow, this is a really exhausting album, it's like when you do a sprint, you force it out in the beginning, and then you take a rest in the middle, but then, you have to finsih the task so you take a full force again, until you pass out in the end. But the thing is, I am exhausted in awe and wonder. Thematically speaking, and im talking about Powell's, this may not be his best effort, but if we are talking about one true composer ability, i think Powell just hit the peak here, way above there. I love how he geniusly plays with his own themes (powell's, let me straight that out), and almost at any moment, makes a hell of revelation for me. I love it the way Powell truly experiments with the writing, and really plays it out. And the most important thing is, like someone here said, HE IS REALLY GOOD WITH STORYTELLING. He is a very good storyteller, and thats why all tracks in the album are worth the listen, and they really flow! and that what makes him stood apart from the rest of them. Bravo! Bofur01, crumbs and Loert 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John 2,032 Posted May 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: I also liked Giacchino's score, but I don't know if it was the lack of time or that maybe he was trying too hard to sound like Williams, but this ends up being better, because Powell is able to introduce his style, but without leaving the Star Wars sound, and that's what I think Giacchino should have done. (Well, he did that in a few cues, but for most of the score is like he is trying to sound like Williams, not like himself). This. Right off the bat, I vastly prefer the first few tracks of the album to anything from Rogue One. Powell's work here retains that classic Star Wars vibe while also having this wonderfully modern feel to it. Alan, crumbs and Bilbo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, kaseykockroach said: If Giacchino is Dominos Pizza, Powell is Pizza Hutt. Dominos has better drinks, but Pizza Hutt has better everything else. Pizza Hut sucks, it's greasy as hell and tastes like funnel cake. John Powell is more like a non-chain family owned Pizza restaurant with affordable prices. Or maybe Papa John's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Papa John’s is worse than either of those! mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Well, what about Mama's Pizza? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post AzOutcast 122 Posted May 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2018 These are weird comparisons. John Powell is like . . . a composer who crafted a better Star Wars score than Michael Giacchino. crumbs, John, Jacck and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted May 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2018 It's not delivery! It's Giacchino! Kasey Kockroach, A. A. Ron, Not Mr. Big and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted May 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2018 After a first listen, Solo definitely blows Rogue One out of the water for me. Bilbo, crumbs, Kasey Kockroach and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Taikomochi said: Papa John’s is worse than either of those! Papa John's is solid, reliable pizza. Pizza Hut is a diarrhea factory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post EhTar 63 Posted May 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2018 I forgot... I took a picture of the music credits during the end credits! Here iit comes! Cerebral Cortex, Tiburon and Ricard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I think Powell's overall performances in this, the writing , the orchestration, the energy, the spirit, the passion; really just easily forgives a blatant similarity in his themes. > Love Theme = god! this annoys me, beacuse i know i heard it somewhere. Aside from his Rio materials, i know this theme borrows haevily from famous old cue > Gang Theme = His stoick theme in HTTYD > L3 theme = the resistance march (any resistance march from Williams) > Chewie theme = terminator salvation theme Enfys Nest theme is the best of the bunch (Marauders Arrive is its best rendition, while Savareen Stand-off is what i pressume to be its concert arrangement) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Giacchino is Dominos - doughy and just want you need when you wanna go cheap Powell is Pizza Express - a decent, sit down restaurant but still family friendly and high-street Williams is a generations old family restaurant in Naples that you can't get a booking for. ...I want pizza now. Bayesian and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Papa John's is like eating off the floor of a good pizza restaurant. Pizza Hut has a bit of nostalgic appeal for me because of its overly cheesy, greasy pan pizza - but I'm first to admit that it's also not good by any metric. Domino's is somewhere between the two. It's the 21st century, so just go to a regular pizza place IMO. I really liked Giacchino's Rogue One score, although not as much as any John Williams Star Wars score. I look forward to John Powell's Solo score. It will probably still fall below the eight Star Wars scores for me, but I doubt he'd find that particularly controversial. If either of them want to send me a pizza, I'll gladly eat it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Papa Johns and Pizza Hut are both garbage. One is just less "bad", then the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, EhTar said: I forgot... I took a picture of the music credits during the end credits! Here iit comes! It wouldn't be a score by a student of Hans without several additional music composers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, mstrox said: It's not delivery! It's Giacchino! Digiorno - a nasty frozen pizza that tries and fails to approximate a higher end pizza and ends up being worse than Tombstone. That's an apt comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Oh my God! That female choir (I think is Enfy Nest theme). Did someone say Na'vi? And also, Reminiscence Theraphy. Wht a great track! Taikomochi and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Damn those timezones, I can't wait to get to midnight! I have to get up early, but fuck that, Adventures of Han is more important! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Jay said: I think we need to talk about "Chicken In The Pot" This was certainly the most unexpected thing I've ever heard on a Star Wars music album! I think it's great! It's probably the most "Earth-sounding" of any cantina/club source music from the franchise so far. The Star Wars equivalent of an R & B song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 minute ago, John said: I think it's great! It may be the most "Earth-sounding" of any cantina/club source music from the franchise so far. The Star Wars equivalent of an R & B song. Have you heard "Jedi Rocks"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said: Digiorno - a nasty frozen pizza that tries and fails to approximate a higher end pizza and ends up being worse than Tombstone. That's an apt comparison. To be fair, Bruce Broughton can be hard to top. Kasey Kockroach and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 4 minutes ago, Knight of Ren said: Oh my God! That female choir (I think is Enfy Nest theme). Did someone say Na'vi? And also, Reminiscence Theraphy. Wht a great track! I was thinking that! Very reminiscent of the Na’vi choir Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I don't trust any pizza place that doesn't carry anchovies as a topping. Which means I don't ever eat any of the chain ones because none of them do (at least the locations in my town don't) but all three of the local family owned pizza places here do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I don't trust any pizza place that doesn't carry anchovies as a topping. Which means I don't ever eat any of the chain ones because none of them do (at least the locations in my town don't) but all three of the local family owned pizza places here do! Papa John's has anchovies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Don't forget the little fishies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, John said: I think it's great! It's probably the most "Earth-sounding" of any cantina/club source music from the franchise so far. The Star Wars equivalent of an R & B song. I loved it! That was definitely one of those moments where a new voice was welcome. Williams would never write anything like that and yet at the same time, it fits in the universe. It's kinda playing by the "rules" for SW source music and kinda not. Cerebral Cortex and John 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Which tracks feature the love theme? Don't have a chance to play the whole album, just curious to know in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 "Lando's Closet" is the main one I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I have just finished listening to the whole album and I really like it. I'm still waiting to hear it in context, and by some comments I have read, it looks like its buried under SFX for the most part, and that's too bad, because this one is really great. Powell uses Williams material (not just Han's new theme, but all the classic material) as his own and arranges it into the score in the most natural ways. And his material is also really great, but I still have to give it a few listens to recognize each theme properly but for now the one that stands out the most is the Enfy Nest theme because of its original instrumentation. There's just one thing i don't like and that is that they didn't include the end credits fanfare and the following suite, as they did with Rogue One, but that's just a small nitpick. Overall, a really great entry into the saga! About the love theme, I think that in Testing Allegiance, around the half of the track, the theme appears in a piano solo (sorry for the pun) version. I think that's the theme, but it could be a different theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 By "they", I guess one means Powell didn't feel the need to include it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 That ace Imperial March cue in the film is missing from the OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 2 hours ago, crumbs said: Both Williams ideas get a fantastic action-mode workout in Break Out, as well. This was one of my favorites! The Chewbacca theme rendition near the beginning is great too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 37 minutes ago, EhTar said: I forgot... I took a picture of the music credits during the end credits! Here iit comes! 3 people wrote "additional music". Interesting! I hadn't realized Randy Kerber did orchestrations for Powell! TIL. I also hadn't read that this was a Shawn Murphy recording. How about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Wisecracks aside, it's a shame that we have to make Giacchino jokes to praise Powell. No need for that, chaps! So, yeah, The Marauders Arrive made me cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I think my favorite tracks are Mine Mission, Break Out, Reminiscence Therapy, and Dice & Roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Taikomochi 1,136 Posted May 24, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2018 It’s not that we *need* to deprecate Giacchino. It’s just that I think a lot of people, myself included, overlooked the flaws of Rogue One because we figured that Williams set the standard so high that Rogue One was the best could realistically be expected from a non-Williams SW score. Now that we have heard a non-Williams SW that is actually great, it puts into sharp relief how disappointing Rogue One was. Breadstick Basilisk, John, Molly Weasley and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I feel the same, just not quite as strongly as Star Wars doesn't mean as much to me as it does to a lot of you (Jurassic is the J. Williams legacy I identify with). But believe me, the joyful reactions have been ECSTATIC to read!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan 689 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, aj_vader said: That ace Imperial March cue in the film is missing from the OST I was wondering whether it appeared in the film! It's total absence from the OST wasn't a negative for me, but I was surprised it didn't at least appear in Reminiscence Therapy. 7 minutes ago, Taikomochi said: It’s not that we *need* to deprecate Giacchino. It’s just that I think a lot of people, myself included, overlooked the flaws of Rogue One because we figured that Williams set the standard so high that Rogue One was the best could realistically be expected from a non-Williams SW score. Now that we have heard a non-Williams SW that is actually great, it puts into sharp relief how disappointing Rogue One was. I still think Giacchino deserves a huge amount of credit for achieving what he did in the time he had, but you're right. The two scores are what they are, and Solo is far superior. aj_vader and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 The Marauders Arrive is the most brilliant use of choir I've heard in a score in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Knight of Ren said: I'm just a few tracks in, and I'm loving what I'm hearing by far. Has anyone noticed some kind of action arrangement of one of the Empire motifs from ANH in the track Train Heist at around 3:35? It's a coincidence or is it the real theme? You're absolutely right. Sounds to me almost like he's taking the piss (in a good way). Knight of Ren 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Who 919 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, Alan said: I was wondering whether it appeared in the film! It's total absence from the OST wasn't a negative for me, but I was surprised it didn't at least appear in Reminiscence Therapy. I still think Giacchino deserves a huge amount of credit for achieving what he did in the time he had, but you're right. The two scores are what they are, and Solo is far superior. I don't think the time argument is good because great scores have been written in that amount of time. JNH's King Kong and Desplat's Imitation game to name a few... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 I love that big majestic Prince of Egypt-esque arrangement of Luke's theme. Alan and Smaug The Iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Chain pizza is trash and anyone who eats it needs to rethink their lives. No composer is bad enough to warrant a comparison to a pizza chain. This score is great, Rogue One was terrible. Consider these arguments settled. MikeH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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