Quintus 5,399 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-44708983 How awful for that man. I have on occasion wondered about how he must have felt about the overwhelmingly bad and even angry response to his character. But did anyone ever really lay the blame for Binks at Best's feet? I should surely hope not. Chen G., Pieter Boelen and Will 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 No wonder George Lucas sold the friggin thing. It's a poison chalice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 Lucas couldn't handle nor accept that when something gets really big, the fans really do own it. I think Disney are only just grasping onto this now, rather acutely so. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,019 Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 You have admit though in terms of sheer drama there is almost nothing worse than SW fandom. There has been months of discussion about SW around the internet and almost nothing of substance comes out of it. I'm not talking about this place. People throwing personal insults at Rian Johnson on Twitter... You don't like the film, fine, but this is embarrassing. Karol Holko, Pieter Boelen, Smaug The Iron and 8 others 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, crocodile said: You have admit though in terms of sheer drama there is almost nothing worse than SW fandom. There has been months of discussion about SW around the internet and almost nothing of substance comes out of it. I'm not talking about this place. People throwing personal insults at Rian Johnson on Twitter... You don't like the film, fine, but this is embarrassing. Karol Its ridiculous the treatment Lucas, Kennedy, Johnson, Best and others have gotten from Star Wars fans makes me ashamed to be a Star Wars fans. The letter squabbling and bullshit that goes on is just toxic. Go see Star Wars if that’s your thing. If you don’t like one of the movies get over it. Lucasfilm doesn’t owe you anything. Smaug The Iron, Chen G., TSMefford and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,950 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Yeah. I mean, I can understand someone getting riled up over a film, but people really lack self-control if they're driven to offend others online because of their involvement in said film. That's especially true when the victim is someone who wasn't making the creative choices but following them, namely actors such as Best or Marie-Tran. Pieter Boelen and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Jake Lloyd's life pretty much fell apart after TPM as well. Poor kid. I don't know if it's better or worse now than it was in 1999. Worse in some ways I suppose, because with social media there's a lot more opportunity for trolls to viciously attack these people. On the other hand, there's a much greater network of support...e.g. for every troll going after Kelly Marie Tran there were a hundred voicing messages of support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 We're in an era where high profile people are being harassed in person too, whether it's senior government members of staff or big movie franchise personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Quintus 5,399 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 I hadn't been aware of the online harassment and abuse the actor who plays Rose had come in for. Absolutely pathetic. It makes me despair for the male sex sometimes. Pieter Boelen, Dixon Hill, Marian Schedenig and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 Ya know what, screw Star Wars. At this point, I don't know if it'd be better for Star Wars to continue, to show these bizarro world deluded, back-patting jackasses who consider other's suffering a point of personal pride that their disgusting, sub-human behavior doesn't amount to any kind of "victory" (to which I'm sure they would set to "Yub Nub" and bonfires); or for Star Wars to just end, for these people to wax nostalgic about it and realize that their precious, elusive cinematic treasures and manna from heaven will never see another incarnation in their lifetimes. Of course, I'm sure they'd find something else to get demented about. The more time goes on, the more I practice self-hynoptic tunnel vision, seeing Star Wars purely as a imaginative, quaint contribution and gift from some truly great, gifted artists of our time and beyond, including the singular talents of a deeply skilled American composer named Mr. John Williams. 12 minutes ago, Margo Channing said: We're in an era where high profile people are being harassed in person too, whether its senior government members of staff or big movie franchise personnel. Yes, this is true. For example, while Trump truly transcends political boundaries and is a humanistically unfit mess of a world leader, people licking their lips savoring the utter glee from telling him and affiliated officials to die in so many vile ways offers little better in the realms of humanism they believe have been so violated. Dixon Hill, Gnome in Plaid, Holko and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Personally, I've never had a problem with Jar-Jar Binks. I liked him, in 1999, and I still like him, in 2018. His scene with the Naboo queen, as the sun sets on Courascant, is very touching. The only character that I've ever had any serious issues is, is a character from my favourite TV show, whose name began with an "A". I'm unable to inform JWfaners of how much I HATE that character. I was very glad when he died. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Every time I meet an adult who admits they've been never seen a single Star Wars movie, I tell them to keep holding out as long as possible. Unlucky Bastard and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 That, more or less, is what Alec Guinness said, to kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Luke wouldn't have thrown away his lightsaber! He just wouldn't!!!! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I saw this earlier and it pissed me off. I was always rubbed the wrong way by the slobbering hatred people had for this character. Fucking Star Wars. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Its a godawful character though, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I didn't understand why some people loved him. He's only there to entertain the toddles. R2-D2 had universal appeal for young and old, but with Jar-Jar, Lucas went too far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 23 hours ago, Stefancos said: Its a godawful character though, tbh. Yes but he should be allowed to live with his professional embarrassment in peace like any other bad actor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Oh absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Yes but he should be allowed to live with his professional embarrassment in peace like any other bad actor I never blamed the actor. It's CGI to me, anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Best absolutely deserves blame for Jar Jar. Not all the blame of course. But he is definitely not blameless. Just no need to harp on about it for years. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I think it's a good performance! An impressive amount of physical expressiveness, and within the confines of some dumb weirdo character, a nice amount of tonal nuance, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 The voice....the voice.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I think many people considered suicide after viewing The Phantom Menace. Seriously? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 He was harassed because he was clumsy?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 So people would love the character if it was played a little bit better? Get the frack out of here! It's not the actor who is to blame. It's the vision behind it. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: The voice....the voice.... 1 minute ago, Alexcremers said: So people would love the character if it was played a little bit better? Get the frack out of here! It's not the actor who is to blame. It's the vision behind it. Whoa, ease up on that hip slang, corn dog, you're gonna lose us! I do wonder what would happened if Lucas kept the character closer to his original vision, which was a lot less...flamboyant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 That is very sad. I did see an interview online where you could sympathize with how hurt he was that the character wan't well received since it was his first break. RIP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, karelm said: That is very sad. I did see an interview online where you could sympathize with how hurt he was that the character wan't well received since it was his first break. RIP. Oh nonononono, the title says "considered", he's still here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, karelm said: RIP. wtf lulz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,346 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 In the words of the Ghost of Christmas Past, “Almost carries no weight” Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 At least he didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John 2,032 Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 My god, I just cannot stand this super vocal branch of the Star Wars fandom that does nothing but complain and harass people. I can't believe some of these people are functioning members of society when they're not posting this crap online. This is the fanbase that: Drove Jake Lloyd insane Made Hayden Christensen quit acting Made Ahmed Best consider suicide Drove Daisy Ridley and Kelly Marie Tran off social media Is continually harassing Rian Johnson, a good guy with no hate towards fans, on Twitter day in and day out crumbs, Bilbo, SteveMc and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,531 Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 Over space popcorn movies for kids. crumbs, Bilbo and Pieter Boelen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,915 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 39 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Oh nonononono, the title says "considered", he's still here! OOHHH!!! I thought it meant his death is considered a suicide! Whew! 😌 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 15 minutes ago, Holko said: Over space popcorn movies for kids. That's usually my line. Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I want some space popcorn Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 2 hours ago, Stefancos said: Luke wouldn't have thrown away his lightsaber! He just wouldn't!!!! Maybe. Maybe not. How did it end up in the possession of butthole eyes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 I checked Rian Johnson's Twitter a couple weeks ago for the first time since TLJ came out and I was amazed how much harassment he still gets on completely unrelated tweets. It's a pathetic sight but I imagine/hope he's finding the non-sequiturs hilarious. He's probably blocked the most chronic hecklers by now. 2 hours ago, Disco Stu said: The voice....the voice.... Yeah but it stuck! People love doing that voice. It's the Tommy Wiseau thing, how bad can something get until it's kind of a success. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Just now, mrbellamy said: I checked Rian Johnson's Twitter a couple weeks ago for the first time since TLJ came out and I was amazed how much harassment he still gets on completely unrelated tweets. It's a pathetic sight but I imagine/hope he's finding the non-sequiturs hilarious. He's probably blocked the most chronic hecklers by now. He's probably disabled his notifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Undoubtedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Fans have forgotten that Star Wars is really just about blowing things up. And TLJ delivered one of my favourite explosions ever when Diane rammed the ship into that bigger ship and everything went all funny lighting like at the end of Alien when the monster got blown away by the exhaust engine. Yeaaah! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,019 Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 Interesting thing about The Last Jedi is that I can completely understand a lot of the criticisms some people have. The film is not perfect by any means and you could argue over some finer points - nature of a protagonist, pacing, logic of some subplots, Kathleen Kennedy's seeming obsession with equality (I call it obsession mainly due to the ongoing controversy, not my personal opinion) etc. All valid subjects worth discussing and I find it interesting how divisive those aspects can be. Also, if you come into the film with a certain frame of mind it might be actually pretty disappointing. I get that. But... "The worst SW ever made"? "Complete cinematic failure"? "An ultimate fan betrayal"? "Johnson completely ignored the previous film"? What? Karol DarthDementous, Chen G., Holko and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,722 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Nick Parker said: Ya know what, screw Star Wars. At this point, I don't know if it'd be better for Star Wars to continue, to show these bizarro world deluded, back-patting jackasses who consider other's suffering a point of personal pride that their disgusting, sub-human behavior doesn't amount to any kind of "victory" (to which I'm sure they would set to "Yub Nub" and bonfires); or for Star Wars to just end, for these people to wax nostalgic about it and realize that their precious, elusive cinematic treasures and manna from heaven will never see another incarnation in their lifetimes. Of course, I'm sure they'd find something else to get demented about. The more time goes on, the more I practice self-hynoptic tunnel vision, seeing Star Wars purely as a imaginative, quaint contribution and gift from some truly great, gifted artists of our time and beyond, including the singular talents of a deeply skilled American composer named Mr. John Williams. Meh. You should be able to differentiate the artistic merits of the franchise from the bad behaviour of its more obnoxious fans. Why should their bad behaviour prevent you, or anyone else, from enjoying something that's (mostly) otherwise wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Mattris: Because I say so! Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 3 hours ago, John said: (...) Made Hayden Christensen quit acting (...) I would not say that Christensen has quit acting, I would say that acting has quit him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,531 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Poor guy, he had some pretty good moments in Sith when he just had to look silently and wasn't forced to whine out George's "dialogue"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 1 hour ago, kaseykockroach said: Mattris: Because I say so! After the debacle over at the SWD thread, I wonder if that guy is gone from the forum for good. Good riddance if that's the case! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted July 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 4, 2018 5 hours ago, John said: Drove Daisy Ridley and Kelly Marie Tran off social media... Two less actors on social media, is not necessarily a bad thing... On day, TLJ will be re-evalued, and will considered to be the masterpiece that all its current adherents and supporters claim that it is. A. A. Ron, crumbs and Andy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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