Popular Post Ollie 1,059 Posted May 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 11, 2019 I pretty much disagree with most, this is a very good score, as was Infinity Wars and the first Avengers. Elfman managed to save the second film’s score. Given everything going on, all the characters and action onscreen, Silvestri did a very good job. This is far from generic, that’s DC’s territory. TSMefford, Fancyarcher, Evanus and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 217 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Same, I think it's a great score.. Very sincere, definitely not generic. Really nailed the feeling of nostalgia and just, everything coming to an end. Loved the references to other scores as well. Cerebral Cortex and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 As someone who thinks Silvestri is the very definition of generic, I will agree that his Avengers scores are much better than the shitty scores DC has been churning out. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Welcome to Marwen was his best score of 2018 anyway. He put out his best Zemeckis score in 20 years and no one noticed because the film was such a gargantuan commercial and critical failure. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I'd say this is good, rather than very good. I discovered Elfman/Tyler's Ultron score around the same time and that's getting a bit more playtime. Although that's mainly down to Elfman's material and his really catchy main theme in particular. WIth Endgame it's just a bit too fragmented an experience to enjoy to the same extent. A. A. Ron, Evanus and Will 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Welcome to Marwen was his best score of 2018 anyway. He put out his best Zemeckis score in 20 years and no one noticed because the film was such a gargantuan commercial and critical failure. I would say in 10 years. But yes, it is indeed the best one he's done recently. I absolutely adore this suite: Karol Disco Stu and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 18 hours ago, crocodile said: I would say in 10 years. But yes, it is indeed the best one he's done recently. Do you mean since Christmas Carol? I love that one too but I dunno I group the Xmas ones separately. Xmas music is its own other thing to me. The Illustrious Jerry and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted May 12, 2019 Author Share Posted May 12, 2019 7 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Welcome to Marwen was his best score of 2018 anyway. He put out his best Zemeckis score in 20 years and no one noticed because the film was such a gargantuan commercial and critical failure. Best since Beowulf? Beowulf is a very good score. Outstanding main theme, some beautiful softer themes, strong action writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 I listened to this over the weekend and liked the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 1 hour ago, TheUlyssesian said: Best since Beowulf? Beowulf is a very good score. Outstanding main theme, some beautiful softer themes, strong action writing. I don’t enjoy the Beowulf score actually but I’ve known many proponents of the score over the years. It never connected with me. I was actually suggesting it was the best since Contact. Not to say all the scores between are bad! Just that this is the best since. Marwen is the kind of I like best from Silvestri: sincerely sentimental and very centered on a main theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted May 13, 2019 Author Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: I don’t enjoy the Beowulf score actually but I’ve known many proponents of the score over the years. It never connected with me. I would say a truly underrated score AND film. I think some of the material is so good that I hope Silvestri thinks about expanding some of it for concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I should probably also add a disclaimer that the finest two Alan Silvestri scores in recent years were written by Henry Jackman. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Absolutely not! Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 7 hours ago, crocodile said: I should probably also add a disclaimer that the finest two Alan Silvestri scores in recent years were written by Henry Jackman. Karol I haven't listened to The Predator yet. I enjoy his Kong and Jumanji scores well enough for what they are, but only in my shortened '90s Varese' style playlist versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 I saw the movie again and Silvestri really did such a nice job with “Go Ahead.” I’ve always been indifferent to these movies/characters but 2:28 just makes me smile. Also I don’t know if this has been discussed but is that tune at 1:50 from one of the previous scores? I feel like it must be a love theme from the first Cap movie but don’t recall...I like it, though, especially that pained phrase at 2:01. Will and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 16, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2019 It is a specific passage from Alan Silvestri's score to Captain America: The First Avenger; "This Is My Choice." One of the reasons I believe Alan Silvestri outdid himself with the score to Avengers: Endgame is not just the large scale sequences, but the intimate character moments as well, particularly this one. It completes the character's arc perfectly, both in terms of what is happening on-screen and score. Matt C, mrbellamy, Deacon Blues and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 Ahhh cool, props to his First Avenger score then. I gotta give that another listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caliburn 72 Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 For who is interested in my thoughts. I have reviewed AVENGERS: ENDGAME. https://soundtrackworld.com/2019/05/avengers-endgame-alan-silvestri/ I also mentioned the Captain America theme :-) In different tracks though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Silvestri also used part of "Morag" from Tyler Bates' Guardians of the Galaxy into the cue "The Tool of a Thief." (1:34 onward) The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 Spreadsheet comparison between the CD and the Digital "Extended Version"https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FEYbLGCqkujnAO_mi4nUJBNzMGiQ-makBuDlQDmu9fg/edit?usp=sharing The Illustrious Jerry and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted May 25, 2019 Share Posted May 25, 2019 One Shot is indeed in the chronologically correct order on the CD Also I guess the CD has undone a lot of track combining from multiple scenes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mrbellamy 6,287 Posted May 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 27, 2019 Evanus, TSMefford and Unlucky Bastard 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Unlucky Bastard and Muad'Dib 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 Finally picked up the score. I will listen in my car. Take me a couple of days to get through it. I agree it is a very good score. Unlucky Bastard and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 I like it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted June 12, 2019 Share Posted June 12, 2019 Anyone else like The How Works? And also, I'm terrible with themes in this series, so I gotta do some research before I can comment too much, _deleted_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_deleted_ 203 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 To stop myself from rewatching Endgame for the bazillionth time 🤪 Playlist name: Infinity War Help Arrives Family Affairs He Won’t Come Out The One Porch Main On End I have similar playlist for The Force Awakens Rey’s Theme Scherzo for X-Wings Finn’s Confession Maz’s Counsel The Ways of the Force The Jedi Steps and Finale 👻 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 29, 2019 Share Posted September 29, 2019 2 hours ago, A Ghost From Highwood said: To stop myself from rewatching Endgame for the bazillionth time 🤪 Et tu, TGP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 That Portals music is pretty awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Yes it is actually. I also like One Shot. The quality of music has slowly increased in the MCU. Phase 3 especially has some decent scores. Edmilson and Chen G. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,454 Posted November 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 22, 2019 Silvestri released the footage of him conducting the recording of the Main Titles: I hope his campaigning for the Grammys makes him release the footage of Portals! Wojo, Disco Stu and Evanus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I watched Captain America; The First Avenger today, I didnt realise there were a couple of callbacks to his first MCU score in Endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Yeah, a surprising amount of them, actually. Aside from the obvious references to the original Captain America March, "Whatever It Takes" brings back the Steve and Peggy love theme and "Go Ahead" is basically a rework of "This is My Choice" (or 6M9 Goodbyes on the recording sessions) from The First Avenger (when Cap is on the Helicarrier saying goodbye to Peggy), although a little more emotional. Smaug The Iron and Evanus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 So the cue underscoring Black Widow's death is called Not Good? Seriously? Wouldn't 'Marvel banned me from using spoilers' have been better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 It's not a spoiler! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Weirdly "Whatever It Takes" (which underscores Cap seeing Peggy and Tony meeting with his father on the 1970s) would have been a better name for the cue accompaning Natasha's death. Maybe originally the music for the 1970s scene was called Not Good and the one for BW's jumping was Whatever It Takes, but then somebody switched them when assembling the album? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 Weird that the 2 hour release is a bit out of sequence. I don't really think it adds anything. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 I'm glad that the first act of Endgame allowed Silvestri to return to his Forrest Gump/Cast Away/Contact roots, writing more emotional, touching music. I'm a fan of Totally Fine, the beginning of Becoming Whole Again (which underscores Cap's speech for the support group) and I Figure it Out, which brings back the Tony and Pepper love theme from Infinity War. But I want the score leak to come soon, because I really want to listen this short and emotional cue for Natasha. Sorry about the shit editing and the slow mixing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted April 27, 2020 Share Posted April 27, 2020 Just for anyone who might be interested: https://collider.com/avengers-endgame-infinity-war-mondo-vinyl-box-set-details-release-date/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 The only thing I'm intersted in is finding the condensed CD presentations for free somewhere, hoping they might make the score less boring than it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I enjoy the most recent two Avengers scores as much as the next guy, but the deluxe editions are a laborious listen. I eventually decided to bite the bullet and go through both in one go, and tried to construct a roughly 40 minute "LP" style program for each based on my preferences. Here's what I came up with, for anyone interested: Avengers: Infinity War The Avengers Undying Fidelity He Won't Come Out Field Trip Help Arrives Even For You Morning After Charge! Forge Get That Arm / I Feel You Porch Avengers: Endgame Totally Fine Arrival No Trust Becoming Whole Again The How Works The Tool Of A Thief In Plain Sight Tunnel Escape Worth It Portals Get This Thing Started The Real Hero Five Seconds Main on End greenturnedblue and _deleted_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Does my memory playing tricks with me? Is this bit reused from another score or am I wrong? This track using parts of Don't Take My Stuff from The Avengers for sure, but I can't remember this bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, mxsch said: Is this bit reused from another score or am I wrong? Not sure if this is from other scores, for me it sounds like your typical Marvel score from Silvestri. Maybe is something from the first Avengers or Infinity War, Endgame reuses a lot of material from Silvestri's previous Marvel scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Just now, Edmilson said: Not sure if this is from other scores, for me it sounds like your typical Marvel score from Silvestri. Maybe is something from the first Avengers or Infinity War, Endgame reuses a lot of material from Silvestri's previous Marvel scores. That is a bit from Vitarays from The First Avenger, got it. There is actually a ton of info for all reprises on wiki, plus I've added discovered one. The score for Endgame would become the first Avengers film to reprise the established themes for Doctor Strange, Captain Marvel, and Ant-Man. "More Problems", a track from Pinar Toprak's Captain Marvel score, was reprised for when Danvers destroys Thanos's ship. As he did with Infinity War, Silvestri reprised the Infinity Stones motif in "The How Works", "So Many Stairs", "In Plain Sight" and "Gotta Get Out". The thematic material in "No More Surprises" from Infinity War is reprised in "I Figured It Out" to depict the relationship between Tony and Morgan Stark. Silvestri reused significant parts of Infinity War tracks "A Small Price", "Even For You" and "Morning After" in Endgame tracks "Destiny Fulfilled", "Not Good" and "Gotta Get Out", respectively, to mirror Gamora and Black Widow's sacrifices. A dramatic variant of "Porch", the violin piece from the end of Infinity War, plays as Thor leaves Thanos's homestead to depict how Thanos's victory remains. In addition, Silvestri reprises various themes from The Avengers as well. Parts of "A Promise" are repurposed in "One Shot". The ending of "Don't Take My Stuff" is repurposed in "I Can't Risk This", when Future Cap fights Past Cap. Black Widow's motif, which debuted in tracks such as "Red Ledger", "Interrogation" and "A Little Help", is briefly reprised for the opening of "I Was Made For This" as the team mourns Black Widow. In addition, the opening of "I Was Made For This" is repurposed from "They Called It"; the motif first played when the Avengers mourned Phil Coulson, and returns when they mourn Black Widow. The ending of "I Got A Ride" is reprised in "Portals"; the track traditionally plays during a long take of the Avengers fighting. Parts of "Seeing, Not Believing" are reprised during the final battle in the track "Get This Thing Started". "The One", which plays when Iron Man takes the Infinity Stones, reprises the theme from "One Way Trip" when Iron Man releases the nuke in space. Another portion of "One Way Trip" is reused when Thanos's army disintegrates. Silvestri reworked numerous tracks from Captain America: The First Avenger. The "Captain America Main Titles" are reprised in "Perfectly Not Confusing", when Tony returns Cap's shield. Part of "Invasion" is reprised in "Tunnel Scape". Also transformation moment from "Vitarays" reprised as ending for "I Can't Risk This". The ending of "Factory Inferno" plays when Cap grabs Mjolnir, and the first half of "Motorcycle Mayhem" plays when Cap wields Mjolnir against Thanos; both reprises are contained in the track "Worth It". Silvestri also reprised "This Is My Choice" when Cap passes on his shield and mantle to Sam Wilson. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,369 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 I mean, that shows clearly the difference between a Silvestri sequel score and a Williams sequel score. I really like the endgame score, but it makes all other Silvestri Avengers scores obsolete. Each one evolved and got more mature. But each new one is just a development or variation of the same score. From Williams we get for every sequel really a new score. Home Alone might be the only exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 Well also Harry Potter 2, which is half new score and half adaption of old material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 On 5/4/2019 at 6:15 PM, Muad'Dib said: Someone on Reddit posted a pretty complete thematic analysis of this score. Link below: https://www.reddit.com/r/soundtracks/comments/bk68z6/avengers_endgame_full_score_analysis/ Wow, this is a great analysis! Thanks for sharing. Muad'Dib and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mxsch 115 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I've found more callbacks to previous scores on my recent relistening of the album. There is a motif in So Many Stairs, I Can't Risk This and The Tool of the Thief which sounds painfully similar to the music when Fury commands to put Helicarrier on the left and Cap sees the damage in the first Avengers. It also reappears in that score two more times. Also ostinatos in You Shouldn't be Here sounds painfully similar too to the one which heats up things in the Invasion from the First Avenger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 Silvestri does bring back a lot of small moments from his previous Marvel scores for some reason. For example, in Endgame, the battle between Wanda and Thanos is scored with a little motif heard on the climax of The Avengers: 2:25 - 2:54 2:29 to 2:56 Don't know why he connected these two apparently unrelated scenes, but it does happen a lot on Endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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