Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Well, it's that time of year again folks! Time for JW BF / EOY predictions for expanded releases from our favorite independent labels. Still a possibility of an Intrada release this year as well as LLL. I only included most likely IMO, removing SW / IJ films as well as post-2005 films. Spielberg films Sugarland Express Hook Catch Me If You Can The Terminal Everything else... The Reivers Witches of Eastwick Accidental Tourist BOTFOJ JFK Nixon Sleepers Seven Years in Tibet Stepmom Angela's Ashes The Patriot Yavar Moradi and That_Bloke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 527 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Has The Legend of Zorro been confirmed? I know that the full score has recently been published, so I'd assume now would be as good a time as any to release an expanded CD for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Sheet music for The Mask Of Zorro was recently published, not The Legend of Zorro No specialty label has announced or teased anything about an audio expansion for either score, and Legend is past the summer 2005 AFM cutoff date anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trope 527 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jay said: Sheet music for The Mast Of Zorro was recently published, not The Legend of Zorro No specialty label has announced or teased anything about an audio expansion for either score, and Legend is past the summer 2005 AFM cutoff date anyway. Whoops, I meant Mask! Well, if nothing's been teased, then I retract my prediction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,547 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jay said: Sheet music for The Mast Of Zorro was recently published... Never heard of that one An 11-disc box set of the complete sessions, for IMAGES. It's going to be called The Bespin Edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Trope said: Whoops, I meant Mask! Well, if nothing's been teased, then I retract my prediction. Dan Redfeld, who worked on the sheet music book, DID tease than an audio release was coming; I just meant that no label themselves have mentioned it. enderdrag64 and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schilkeman 964 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I want The Terminal more than any of them, an underrated score, but I'd love Hook, Tibet, and/or Eastwick. I could leave the rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Question for @Dr. Rick, did you place this thread in the JW subforum because you want people to discuss JW options only? Or is this a thread for all BF discussion? And you mentioned other labels in your main post, but LLL is the only label that does BF titles. So is this a specific LLL thread? A specific JW thread? Or a thread for all end of year titles from all labels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 10, 2023 Author Share Posted October 10, 2023 Changed the topic title JW options only for BF / EOY 2023. Intrada earlier this year said another Williams release was on their list but not sure if that's for 2023 or 2024? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,369 Posted October 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2023 Here is EXACTLY what Doug said, in February 2023: And with important soundtracks by that popular triumvirate of John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith and James Homer plus important work by Danny Elfman, John Barry, James Newton Howard, Hans Zimmer, Marco Beltrami and several others all in production, we have a really busy pipeline ahead, one of the most exciting that I can recall! And then what Doug said in April 2023: For my part, I’m currently at work on several James Horner releases, a major John Barry score high on many people’s “top favorites” list, a Jerry Goldsmith soundtrack premiere literally in my all-time favorites, more excitement from James Newton Howard, Hans Zimmer and Marco Beltrami, with our friend Mike Matessino buried in a couple of upcoming Intrada releases by some composer named John Williams. That's all anything anyone at Intrada has said about Williams. Dr. Rick, Brando, Yavar Moradi and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Should I get my hopes up that The Patriot expanded by Intrada may release this year (or at least early 2024) or is just a fool's hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I gave up on The Patriot and ordered the OST now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted October 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2023 Thank you @GerateWohl now they should announce it next month Andy, eitam, enderdrag64 and 9 others 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Hook and/or Terminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That_Bloke 115 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Dr. Rick said: Well, it's that time of year again folks! Time for JW BF / EOY predictions for expanded releases from our favorite independent labels. Still a possibility of an Intrada release this year as well as LLL. I only included most likely IMO, removing SW / IJ films as well as post-2005 films. Spielberg films Sugarland Express Hook Catch Me If You Can The Terminal Everything else... The Reivers Witches of Eastwick Accidental Tourist BOTFOJ JFK Nixon Sleepers Seven Years in Tibet Stepmom Angela's Ashes The Patriot I'd include Cinderella Liberty in that list, either as expansion or re-issue. Who knows whether or not LLL took over the rights from Intrada? Or perhaps an expansion of CL is one of the "couple of" JW scores being referred to by Doug? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,205 Posted October 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2023 2 hours ago, Jay said: Sheet music for The Mast Of Zorro was recently published Featuring Ron Jeremy as Zorro. Jay, Brando, Edmilson and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JTN 2,033 Posted October 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2023 Anything JW is a gift. Trope, Andy, Once and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 My guess is Cinderella Liberty for this end of the year coming from Intrada and The Patriot in the begining of 2024 Dr. Rick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 44 minutes ago, Raiders of the SoundtrArk said: Thank you @GerateWohl now they should announce it next month I am expecting that. I had the same experience when Fiddler on the Roof came out. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 And we thank you for that GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I think we may get Born on the Fourth of July, the last of the MCA Williams OSTs still to receive an expansion. Sandor and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post filmmusic 1,837 Posted October 10, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2023 I hope for Nixon. Thornhill, JTN and Bayesian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,513 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I hope for everything that everyone wishes for here, because then my wallet is home free! (well, except SUGARLAND EXPRESS, of course). Dr. Rick and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bellosh 3,419 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 The Patriot Catch Me If You Can Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, Thor said: I hope for everything that everyone wishes for here, because then my wallet is home free! (well, except SUGARLAND EXPRESS, of course). Of course, I would hope, like you, something completely unreleased, but we all know, that train is long gone now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 10, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 10, 2023 My top two are Patriot and Hook. If one of those comes out this year I'll be a happy man. JTN, Brando, 1977 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aj_vader 534 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 Star Wars JTN and Thor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I think Nixon, Catch Me If You Can, The Terminal and Born on the Fourth of July are the most likely candidates at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 I'd love for The Terminal to surprise us like Amistad with lots of extra music we didn't know about, but otherwise that seems like a pretty "straightforward" 1CD expansion. It's an Amblin and DreamWorks film, which hasn't been a barrier to other expansions. It's before the AFM deadline and I'd assume Murphy was recording digital masters in LA by 2004 (so potentially costs saved on analogue transfers). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 On 10/10/2023 at 10:38 AM, Dr. Rick said: Spielberg films Sugarland Express Hook Catch Me If You Can The Terminal Everything else... The Reivers Witches of Eastwick Accidental Tourist BOTFOJ JFK Nixon Sleepers Seven Years in Tibet Stepmom Angela's Ashes The Patriot So if we eliminate stuff JW doesnt want out, studios that have clammed up and titles that have issues, it's quite a short list: Hook Catch Me If You Can The Terminal BOTFOJ Nixon Seven Years in Tibet Stepmom Angela's Ashes The Patriot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sandor 797 Posted October 11, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2023 I'm really hoping for a definitive release of Born On The Fourth Of July. It's one of Williams' most powerful and beautiful scores and it greatly deserves an expansion of some sort. Dr. Rick, crumbs, Bayesian and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 A definitive release would have to include the songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandor 797 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 52 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: A definitive release would have to include the songs. Just referring to the score of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2023 Hopefully an BOTFOJ expanded release will change my opinion of the score much like Always did. Both had similar OSTs with sparse score and several pop songs which resulted in little playing time in my CD player over the years. The LLL expansion of Always has been a fantastic release IMO with the presentation and previously unheard score! crumbs, Edmilson and That_Bloke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 21 minutes ago, Dr. Rick said: Hopefully an BOTFOJ expanded release will change my opinion of the score much like Always did. Haven't you heard the ... ahem .... complete score? It's quite repetitive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted October 11, 2023 Author Share Posted October 11, 2023 Yes, I have that on digital, and yes, it is somewhat repetitive. However, the poor quality of the boot and the possibility of new unreleased music gives me hope for a proper expanded release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 All three JW Oliver Stone scores should've been already expanded by now. Hopefully we'll get Nixon and BOT4J soon! And hopefully if Universal really buys Warner Bros, who knows, they may re-open for business with the labels, enabling JFK. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Edmilson said: if Universal really buys Warner Bros, who knows, they may re-open for business with the labels, enabling JFK. Wait, this is a thing being rumored? I missed this! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 6 minutes ago, Jay said: Wait, this is a thing being rumored? I missed this! A recent Variety report on the chaotic production of Aquaman 2 hinted that, within the next 2 years, WB may be sold, probably to Universal. https://variety.com/2023/film/news/aquaman-2-jason-momoa-drunk-claims-amber-heard-cut-scenes-elon-musk-letter-1235747775/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 That would be insane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 What would unlock a post-2005 score for an expansion in the future? Would it involve the negotiation of a lower re-use fee for that specific score? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 That or the AFM changing their policy overall Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted October 11, 2023 Share Posted October 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Damien F said: What would unlock a post-2005 score for an expansion in the future? Would it involve the negotiation of a lower re-use fee for that specific score? I could be wrong but I *think* this is what was successfully done for the three Giacchino Trek score expansions from Varese? Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I think so, yes. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Brando 1,864 Posted October 12, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2023 I want Hook but I'm not getting my hopes up. A. A. Ron, enderdrag64, Andy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 543 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Hook is my number 1 'want' (apart from Indy and Star Wars, obviously, but they're special cases in so many ways) and I am getting my hopes up. Just like I do every year. I also have some handkerchiefs ready for when the near-inevitable disappointment happens. Mark Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post filmmusic 1,837 Posted October 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, QuartalHarmony said: I also have some handkerchiefs ready for when the near-inevitable disappointment happens. Imagine if there isn't any John Williams release at all on Black Friday. Haha. Brando, enderdrag64, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Wouldn't be an issue for me if what they do release makes me happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,864 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Just remembered, Spider-Man 2 would be awesome since 1 came out last year Edmilson and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymenard 54 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 Another year... another hopeless wish for : STAR WARS : The Complete Soundtracks - Volume 1 (The original saga) Brando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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