Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 6, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted August 6, 2017 1 hour ago, Not Mr. Big said: Out of the park, into a dumpster, onto a diaper. U BE NICE Bilbo, MikeH and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miz 139 Posted August 21, 2017 Share Posted August 21, 2017 Does anyone have a link to an article I remember reading, recommended in this very thread? I know there were a few. The one I'm thinking of was long, had diagrams, and an in-depth theme analysis of MG's Rogue One themes, showing how the Hope theme (sister to the SW Main Theme) is more simplistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 372 Posted August 26, 2017 Share Posted August 26, 2017 On 8/21/2017 at 3:30 AM, Miz said: Does anyone have a link to an article I remember reading, recommended in this very thread? I know there were a few. The one I'm thinking of was long, had diagrams, and an in-depth theme analysis of MG's Rogue One themes, showing how the Hope theme (sister to the SW Main Theme) is more simplistic. It might have been this? http://fangirlblog.com/2017/04/star-wars-celebration-orlando-2017-the-music-of-rogue-one-with-david-collins/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheaton 6 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 On 5/19/2017 at 5:59 PM, Manakin Skywalker said: Here's the recording session cue list for anyone interested. 7m45a Scarif Antenna Alignment Pt. 1 7m45b Scarif Antenna Alignment Pt. 2 Just curious if anyone's found 7m45a out in the wild yet. That's basically the first 0:45 (I'm guessing) of this Bluray rip-and-strip, but not so horrible sounding. I heard 7m45b for the first time tonight while poking around the iTunes extras (it's the first thing that plays during the artwork slideshow for the U-wing, if anyone's interested). Someone's ripped this (7m45b) separately from the previous video here, but that's a lower-fi version and it'd barely be listenable wedged between the FYC version of We Have to Press the Attack and the OST version of Your Father. If anyone knows how to rip that cue from iTunes without losing fidelity, I'd be all ears. All this buildup and questioning because I think this track (or ideally, a nicely edited version of it, because it's pretty jumpy from space to Scarif to space and back to Scarif again) is the number one thing missing from my R1 playlist. I'd love to find both a and b halves of this to craft them into a track called "The Hammerhead." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 On 9/16/2017 at 2:54 AM, rheaton said: Just curious if anyone's found 7m45a out in the wild yet. That's basically the first 0:45 (I'm guessing) of this Bluray rip-and-strip, but not so horrible sounding. I heard 7m45b for the first time tonight while poking around the iTunes extras (it's the first thing that plays during the artwork slideshow for the U-wing, if anyone's interested). Someone's ripped this (7m45b) separately from the previous video here, but that's a lower-fi version and it'd barely be listenable wedged between the FYC version of We Have to Press the Attack and the OST version of Your Father. If anyone knows how to rip that cue from iTunes without losing fidelity, I'd be all ears. All this buildup and questioning because I think this track (or ideally, a nicely edited version of it, because it's pretty jumpy from space to Scarif to space and back to Scarif again) is the number one thing missing from my R1 playlist. I'd love to find both a and b halves of this to craft them into a track called "The Hammerhead." The first video you linked to is actually from my YouTube channel. Unfortunately the only source we have so far is the Blu-ray rip. Also, 7m45a is just the first 25 seconds. Do you know exactly which extra that cue was in? If there's any SFX or dialogue, then the cue will lose fidelity no matter what. Nothing from the recording sessions has leaked thus far (at least not yet, and probably not for years to come if ever). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheaton 6 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 13 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: The video you linked to is actually from my YouTube channel. Unfortunately the only source we have so far is the Blu-ray rip. Also, it's 7m45a is just the first 25 seconds. Do you know exactly which extra that cue was in? If there's any SFX or dialogue, then the cue will lose fidelity no matter what. Nothing from the recording sessions has leaked thus far (at least not yet, and probably not for years to come if ever). I'm glad you posted it to YouTube, even in that format. If you'd be willing to send me the source audio file, I might try to make something listenable from it and the second video I posted. I'm speculating that 7m45a is the first 45 seconds of your video because it doesn't make sense that LFL (or whoever ultimately cut the audio for promotional purposes) would fuse the two together and then split them at a different point, as would be the case given that this file is out there in the iTunes extras. And yes, that's in the iTunes extras (and possibly on BR as well, but I don't own the BR) without any dialogue or SFX, just as background music for viewing the design slideshow about U-wings. To my ears it sounds better in iTunes than on YouTube, but the YouTube cue might just be good enough for my purposes--which is to make a listenable playlist of the best music from the film. IMO this is the biggest missing element, this and the cue when we're first introduced to Jedha. I think I saw that you have that on your YT channel too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 3 hours ago, rheaton said: I'm glad you posted it to YouTube, even in that format. If you'd be willing to send me the source audio file, I might try to make something listenable from it and the second video I posted. I'm speculating that 7m45a is the first 45 seconds of your video because it doesn't make sense that LFL (or whoever ultimately cut the audio for promotional purposes) would fuse the two together and then split them at a different point, as would be the case given that this file is out there in the iTunes extras. And yes, that's in the iTunes extras (and possibly on BR as well, but I don't own the BR) without any dialogue or SFX, just as background music for viewing the design slideshow about U-wings. To my ears it sounds better in iTunes than on YouTube, but the YouTube cue might just be good enough for my purposes--which is to make a listenable playlist of the best music from the film. IMO this is the biggest missing element, this and the cue when we're first introduced to Jedha. I think I saw that you have that on your YT channel too? Exactly which iTunes extra did you find it in? I have all of the extras and might be able to get a better sounding version of it. CGCJ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheaton 6 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 10 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Exactly which iTunes extra did you find it in? I have all of the extras and might be able to get a better sounding version of it. Extras > Designing Rogue One Galleries > U-wing What I'm guessing is 7m45b plays first, followed by several other cues from throughout the film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted September 17, 2017 Share Posted September 17, 2017 Do you know if it's an iTunes exclusive? I'm hoping that the Blu-Ray set has that extra, as I don't have the iTunes version. I thought the Target collector's edition was supposed to have everything, so if it's not in there I won't be able to get it unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheaton 6 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 3 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Do you know if it's an iTunes exclusive? I'm hoping that the Blu-Ray set has that extra, as I don't have the iTunes version. I thought the Target collector's edition was supposed to have everything, so if it's not in there I won't be able to get it unfortunately. It doesn't say it's an exclusive in any way, but it may be. There's also a gallery for K2SO in iTunes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted September 18, 2017 Share Posted September 18, 2017 1 hour ago, rheaton said: It doesn't say it's an exclusive in any way, but it may be. There's also a gallery for K2SO in iTunes. I looked it up and supposedly it should be on the Blu-Ray set. However, I might not be able to check until some time next week because my computer is broken and I'm waiting for my new GPU & PSU to arrive in the mail. I guess I should have taken a closer look at the BTS extras when I first got the set! EDIT: I do have a backup of the Blu-Ray files on my old hard drive, so I might be able to take a look at it tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheaton 6 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Here's what I was able to make with what I've found so far. I chose to append the Hammerhead stuff to the "We Have to Press the Attack," so the first half of this will be completely familiar. Listen beginning around 2:25 for the film experience. With one major exception, that is. I find the Jyn-on-the-tower music that Giacchino came up with really uninspiring, so I omitted it. This leads to two harsh cuts, one at about 3:02, and one at the end, when the TIE almost ends Jyn. This isn't perfect, of course, but I think it's better than not having these cues. I'd be interested in feedback! Will and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheaton 6 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 And here's a crack at "There's Spies Everywhere." It's a shame that there's such a quality difference between the rip-and-strip (where our introduction to Jedha has even been neutered) and the unreleased "Jedha Suite" track, from which I've restored that 20 seconds or so. DarthDementous and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 rheaton, any chance you could post just the clean sections of the music unedited? That way, others could do their own edits if they wanted. I'm not a fan of cutting sections of the music or merging cues, so I'd really appreciate it if you could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rheaton 6 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 12 hours ago, CGCJ said: rheaton, any chance you could post just the clean sections of the music unedited? That way, others could do their own edits if they wanted. I'm not a fan of cutting sections of the music or merging cues, so I'd really appreciate it if you could. Understood. However, all I've done is rip the audio from the YouTube videos I've linked to, and it's probably better for quality's sake to just repeat my steps (using something like KeepVid) than me uploading the audio files somewhere a second time for ripping/downloading. However, none of this is particularly clean. To even approximate the sound of the FYC mp3s (let alone the OST in a lossless format), I had to fudge the volume levels in editing, and the rip-and-strips from 7m45a and the bulk of There's Spies Everywhere will never approach the quality absent an official LFL release of the cues. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 So I was unable to locate the Galleries extras on the files I had backed-up on my hard drive. Once I get my computer repaired I'll look again. The Gallery extras do appear to be a part of the Blu-Ray set, so I'm pretty sure that I do have them on one of the discs, in which case I can easily extract the audio and provide a lossless version of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted September 21, 2017 Share Posted September 21, 2017 glad to see that there's people out there that also enjoy this score and want a more comprehensive version of it. keep up the great work guys! Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Guest Posted August 4, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted August 4, 2018 I slightly tweaked the recording session cue list, for anyone interested. This should be more accurate than my original post. 1m01 He's Here For Us 1m02 A Long Ride Ahead 1m03 Wobani Imperial Labor Camp ?m?? There's Spies Everywhere ?m?? The Detention of Jyn Erso ?m?? Jyn's Interrogation ?m?? Trust Goes Both Ways ?m?? When Has Become Now ?m?? Jyn's Memories of Childhood 2m11a Mission to Jedha Pt. 1 2m11b Mission to Jedha Pt. 2 2m12 The Bazaars of Jedha 2m13 Hearts Of Kyber 2m14a (This Town Is Ready To Blow) 2m14b Jedha City Ambush ?m?? Let Them Pass In Peace Pt. 1 ?m?? Let Them Pass In Peace Pt. 2 ?m?? No Friends Of The Empire ?m?? Reunion at Saw's Hideout 3m20 Today Of All Days 3m21 Star-Dust 3m22 An Imperial Test Of Power ?m23 Apologies Are In Order ?m24 Imperial Departure 4m25 Approach to Eadu 4m26 No Trust Among Rebels 4m27 Jyn's Path is Clear 4m28 Confrontation of Eadu ?m29 Krennic's Aspirations 5m30 Rebellions Are Built On Hope 5m31 A Rebel Change of Heart 5m32 Rogue One 5m33 Cargo Shuttle SW-608 5m34 Good Luck Little Sister 5m35 What Brings You To Scarif? 5m36 Are We Blind? 6m37 Scrambling the Rebel Fleet 6m38 AT-ACT Assault 6m39 Finding a Way Through 6m40 Project Star-Dust 6m41 Entering the Imperial Archives 6m42 Get That Beach Under Control 6m43 The Master Switch 7m44 We Have To Press The Attack 7m45a Scarif Antenna Alignment Pt. 1 7m45b Scarif Antenna Alignment Pt. 2 7m46 Your Father Would Be Proud 7m?? Hope 7m50 End Credits -SUITES- Jyn Erso & Hope Suite The Imperial Suite Guardians of the Whills Suite -SOURCE MUSIC- A Game of Dejarik Kafrene Temple Music The Jedha Khamseen The Jedha Sirocco The Whills Temple Chant -UNKNOWN- News from the Ashes The Illustrious Jerry, Tallguy, Tiburon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Cincinnati Pops performs “Jyn Erso and Hope” toothless and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR1701 59 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Cincinnati Pops performs “Jyn Erso and Hope” That principal violin is quite a biscuit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 3 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Cincinnati Pops performs “Jyn Erso and Hope” A good performance. Some nice moments in the piece itself, of course, though Giacchino leans rather heavily on Williams's work. Strong echos of Across The Stars throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 So did anyone notice that none of the Streaming Services™ mentioned this score on their May 4th Playlists? Has John Williams officially demanded Michael Giacchino be erased from the Star Wars cinematic music legacy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted May 5, 2019 Share Posted May 5, 2019 Hahaha! Oops. Let the John Williams-snuffing-out Giacchino's-existence-from-Star Wars conspiracy thicken! BLUMENKOHL and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 12 hours ago, Nick Parker said: Hahaha! Oops. Let the John Williams-snuffing-out Giacchino's-existence-from-Star Wars conspiracy thicken! Calling @elvisjones! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Could be multiple reasons - Rogue One doesn't feature any Saga characters prominently aside from Vader, Williams wrote for Solo whilst Giacchino was solo with Rogue. Still strange they didn't include the score in the playlist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Williams probably wrote Galaxy's Edge to prevent Gia from being asked! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Williams probably wrote Galaxy's Edge to prevent Gia from being asked! A mark of a true gentleman of magnanimous mien. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I cant imagine JW being petty like that. Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Shadows of the Empire is never included as well. I think people forgot all about that gem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 16 minutes ago, El Jefe said: Shadows of the Empire is never included as well. I think people forgot all about that gem. Yeah sadly as McNeely's music is pretty excellent all-around. Which reminds me, I have give that CD another listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bryant Burnette 654 Posted May 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2019 I continue to be mystified by the dislike so many people here have for Giacchino. Y'all are weird. The Illustrious Jerry, Disco Stu, Tiburon and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted May 6, 2019 33 minutes ago, Bryant Burnette said: I continue to be mystified by the dislike so many people here have for Giacchino. Y'all are weird. I've come to this opinion as well. It comes across as weirdly pathological at this point. I think because I'm already so familiar with the opinions of the regulars who seem to despise him, so it gets a bit old. I'm usually somewhere in the middle, finding myself rarely agreeing with the most negative takes, and also rarely agreeing with the most enthusiastic opinions. Arpy, Pieter Boelen and Bryant Burnette 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I certainly don't have anything against him. His music doesn't excite me nearly as much as I would like though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I don't mind him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Post 2015, I really really like Star Trek Beyond and Doctor Strange. Spider-Man: Homecoming has grown on me some, his Apes scores are wildly overrated, and his 2018 scores (Incredibles 2 / Fallen Kingdom) just didn't leave much of an impression on me. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Star Trek: Beyond sounded...promising when I saw the film in the cinema, but on CD the spell was broken almost instantly. Gia just doesnt have what I'm looking for I guess. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I wouldn't rate it with the best of the old Trek scores (Goldsmith, Horner, McCarthy), but I still think it's a super entertaining space-action score. I put it on every now and then and it's always a good time, might actually be my favorite of his three Treks. The score that I think has the most depth and soul to it is Tomorrowland, his best score as far as I'm concerned. The music really captures the optimism and hopefulness the film was going for better than the film itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I play up the Gia hate because it’s so easy to wind people up with it. I dont hate hate him I just don’t think he’s very good. He’s certainly the most overrated composer working today IMO. I think his scores are always sufficient in film but, as Steef aluded to above, they don’t really retain any bite outside of the film. I find many of them dull, uninteresting, and simplistic. Just not my cup of tea. People can like what they like. Just don’t suggest him for more Star Wars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I'd be totally on board for him to score the Cassian Andor series. I suggest him for that! Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,531 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I only know his Rogue One, which has its great moments and abysmally unfitting or just not very good moments (I noticed a lot of those in the film). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I'd be totally on board for him to score the Cassian Andor series. I suggest him for that! 😑 Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bilbo said: I dont hate hate him I just don’t think he’s very good. He’s certainly the most overrated composer working today IMO. Yeah, considering Hanz probably has taken the day off, letting his 30 drones do his work. Fabulin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Zimmer > 30 Cappuccinos Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I neither agree nor disagree with that statement. I regularly listen to Giacchino and I quite honestly listen to a Zimmer album at most once or twice a year. I have a lot of respect for Zimmer and what he's accomplished, without actually enjoying (or hating) his music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bilbo said: Zimmer > 30 Cappuccinos You trying to give the man a heart attack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 6 minutes ago, Bilbo said: Zimmer > 30 Cappuccinos Well, 30 cups of coffee can't compose either. Fabulin and Pieter Boelen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 50 cups of coffee and you know it's on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 50 a day is perfectly fine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 That explains a lot, Stefan! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 I'm sure Giacchino had 50 cups a day minimum in the 4 weeks he had to get Rogue One done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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