artguy360 1,844 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 It's so interesting to me that JW wrote several themes and recorded several cues that Powell says are used throughout the film. I wonder if JW wrote any music for an action scene. If this score produces some new kick-ass SW JW action music, it would be a real treat. Will and Not Mr. Big 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Don't tell me there's going to be unreleased Williams music for this? Reading the Powell article it seems Williams was a lot more involved than we thought and Powell wrote most of the score based on his themes Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Music Composed, Conducted, and Orchestrated by John Williams Instagram Posts by John Powell leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, King Mark said: Don't tell me there's going to be unreleased Williams music for this? Reading the Powell article it seems Williams was a lot more involved than we thought and Powell wrote most of the score based on his themes Unreleased score running time: 74 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pawel P. 738 Posted May 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2018 Ok, I saw Solo yesterday. I liked it very much, although I rate TFA, TLJ and RO a bit higher. At least for now. Music is great! Above all, John Williams rules in this film! His two Han Solo themes (or two parts of one theme, I don’t know) appear in many places, usually separately. One is more marching, although it is not a march - think about the very beginning of Rey's Theme on light steroids - and the other is very heroic - a bit in the mood of the Poe's theme. Older music also appears in different arrangements, especially in the second part of the movie. Of course, we hear Spoiler The Imperial March, The Asteroid Filed, Here They Come and Spoiler Rebel Fanfare , but also a bit of ... Spoiler Duel of the Fates . However, there is a lot of Powell in this movie. And he put a lot of work and heart into it! The nostalgic dimension of one of the themes is not very far from his How to Train Your Dragon scores. Another theme has a very romantic feel, reminds me of Golden Age scores. And there is also a theme that sounds like a Avatar and Adiemus mixture, due to the vocalization, but it is much more wild, crazy. There are also some choirs. It's a pity that music, unlike in TLJ, loses a bit in battle scenes with sound effects, but in more intimate moments it sounds powerful. There's a lot going on here, it's hard to remember everything after watching a movie once. I can’t wait for the CD and look forward to seeing the movie again! Knight of Ren, toothless, Jacck and 12 others 11 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 45 minutes ago, Pawel P. said: It's a pity that music, unlike in TLJ, loses a bit in battle scenes with sound effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 so basically the JW themes (ir it's adaptations by Powell) are the highlight of the score Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,298 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 4 hours ago, Pawel P. said: but also a bit of ... Reveal hidden contents Duel of the Fates Spoiler I assume this is for that Darth Maul cameo people are talking about? How does Powell use it? Is it the Korah Rah-tah-mah, the ostinato...? Kinda cool that this finally made its way back in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Maybe the OST will have ONLY the Williams themes on track 1 and every bit of it will be micro edited out of the rest of the trakcs Ricard and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,298 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Powell said on Instagram that Han's theme is in 16 tracks. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 48 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Reveal hidden contents I assume this is for that Darth Maul cameo people are talking about? How does Powell use it? Is it the Korah Rah-tah-mah, the ostinato...? Kinda cool that this finally made its way back in there. Spoiler Yes, Darth Maul. Powell used mainly ostinato. I was so surprised by this cameo that I’m not 100 percent sure I heard a choir singing. I think i did, for a moment. I’m sure I’ll catch more details at the second viewing, though the CD will be out by then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 37 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: Powell said on Instagram that Han's theme is in 16 tracks. c.d.tracks or film cues? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,319 Posted May 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2018 CD songs. Loert, Jurassic Shark, Will and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pawel P. 738 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, King Mark said: so basically the JW themes (ir it's adaptations by Powell) are the highlight of the score Yes, but... we're talking about John Williams, the best composer on Earth. However, Powell did his job excellently, in my opinion. His themes in Solo are also great. And very diverse. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,298 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 7 minutes ago, King Mark said: c.d.tracks or film cues? Album tracks. He mentioned it in the comment section of this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,642 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 11 hours ago, artguy360 said: It's so interesting to me that JW wrote several themes and recorded several cues that Powell says are used throughout the film. I wonder if JW wrote any music for an action scene. If this score produces some new kick-ass SW JW action music, it would be a real treat. That's what I was wondering/hoping for. Though I suppose if there was any Williams-penned action music in the film, we'd have heard about it by now (Powell's action writing and Williams' are very distinct from one-another) Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 So do Williams 2 themes completely overshadow Powell’s 7 new themes? Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Quality > quantity. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricard 2,245 Posted May 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2018 OST cover (already posted on the Powell score thread): ocelot, The Illustrious Jerry and Will 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 But Powell said Williams wrote several themes. Is it possible some of these "Powell" themes are Williams/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,642 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, King Mark said: But Powell said Williams wrote several themes. Is it possible some of these "Powell" themes are Williams/ The Han Solo theme consists of a primary and a secondary theme. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,673 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Just so we are clear, this is a Williams' score through and through. Powell did nothing but adapt a couple of cues. Will and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Ricard said: OST cover (already posted on the Powell score thread): I'm surprised it doesn't say Han Solo song and original Star Wars songs by John Williams, and Additional songs by John Powell. TheUlyssesian and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 14 minutes ago, King Mark said: But Powell said Williams wrote several themes. Is it possible some of these "Powell" themes are Williams/ He said "a couple", meaning two. 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: The Han Solo theme consists of a primary and a secondary theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Thanks for quoting my post two minutes after I wrote it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 how much music did Williams Ross write? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Probably everything. His crediting is inversely proportional to the amount of contributions he makes on a score. It's known as The Ross Curse. Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Music Composed and Conducted by William Ross Additional music by John Williams Jurassic Shark and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 13 hours ago, artguy360 said: It's so interesting to me that JW wrote several themes and recorded several cues that Powell says are used throughout the film. I wonder if JW wrote any music for an action scene. If this score produces some new kick-ass SW JW action music, it would be a real treat. Yeah, that was my first thought too! However, I think the best reading of Powell's comments is that JW composed the two themes for Han and helped spot the film, giving suggestions on variations the two themes could undergo (and perhaps on how Powell could treat other scenes in general). But unfortunately it doesn't seem likely that JW wrote any actual film cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Music Composed and Conducted by William Ross Additional music by John Williams That's probably how T-Rex: Back to the Cretaceous worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 What confusing credits. They should have just credited it to John Powell Williams. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 They should have hired Giacchino to write the cue titles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Yeah, you're right. Giacchino needs to hire the Cryptkeeper to do cue titles. His puns are WAY better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 I think what is meant by "Williams wrote a bunch of themes" or more than one theme is, as someone stated in a previous page, that Williams wrote a bunch of different themes and ideas for Han and then they settled on these two being the strongest. Not that Williams wrote more than Han's theme and that some of the other themes are his as well. Also he might have orchestrated and recorded different ways the theme can be used and changed throughout the movie and those orchestrations and variations are in there. However still, only Hans Theme is Williams, both part A (Hero) and part B (Searching) Can't wait to hear it and to hear Powell's themes and cues as well. Interesting to hear what older themes return, especially a certain one which, for right now, makes no sense to me at all. Why would it be in the movie?! Chen G. and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Giacchino was hired to create the Score Album Artwork. 'Hands Aloe Cream and Werthers Original Star Wars Music by John Williams Door Closed and Retracted by John Powell.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,953 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, ocelot said: only Hans Theme is Williams, both part A (Hero) and part B (Searching) This. People should, at the very least, see the movie and hear the score to see if the two parts even appear (and more importantly, emerge) in isolation, before they start talking about them as separate leitmotivic units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,298 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Well we already have an example of the B theme doing that, but who knows if it goes into the hero theme or not. I think it's a safe enough bet, though, if Powell really used it as much as he says there just won't be space to use both every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H 24 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 12 hours ago, Pawel P. said: Ok, I saw Solo yesterday. I liked it very much, although I rate TFA, TLJ and RO a bit higher. You rate TLJ higher? Oh dear...,🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2018 Some of us love that movie Jacck, Ricard, Smaug The Iron and 6 others 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,744 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 So we keep hearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 As you never cease to tell us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 19, 2018 It's not like the ones who don't were shy about it! mrbellamy, Docteur Qui and Taikomochi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve H 24 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Some of us love that movie I love King Solomon's Mines with Richard Chamberlain. But if someone told me they rated it higher than Indy V a week before it was released, I'd be a little worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Facile comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 15 minutes ago, Steve H said: I love King Solomon's Mines with Richard Chamberlain. But if someone told me they rated it higher than than Indy V, I'd be a little worried. Considering Indy V is yet to be frickin' released, that's a perfectly legitimate stance! Will and ocelot 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Steve H said: You rate TLJ higher? Oh dear...,🙄 I absolutely love The Last Jedi! Don't get me wrong, it had it's faults, (as if any of the other Star wars movies did not, maybe not Empire so much) like I did not believe there was any chemistry between Rose and Finn, and she should have just been at the front end of the movie and not gone off ship, which would have given Del Toro more screen time with Finn and therefor a better part in the movie. But all in all it was a high stakes different movie which was all about failure and consequences. Ricard and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted May 19, 2018 Share Posted May 19, 2018 Sorry guys, you can't have a different opinion, the internet has already decided TLJ sucks... Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,673 Posted May 20, 2018 Share Posted May 20, 2018 The thing I just cannot stomach about TLJ is that one of the major storyline's message was the goodness of blind obedience/trust to authority (even with the added bonus that if you try to flee, you will be shot). To me that betrayed the whole point of the original saga. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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